America's Gun Violence

rgambs

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

vaggar99 said:

you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  

Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.

500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 

Why not?  Are your jollies at the range really worth the risk your kids face every time they go into public?

bootlegger10

Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  

Gern Blansten

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

vaggar99 said:

you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  

Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.

500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 

Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?

mrussel1

bootlegger10 said:

Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  

That's an excellent idea.  

rgambs

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  

That's an excellent idea.  

It is, love it.

tbergs

bootlegger10 said:

Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  

Exactly. Law enforcement personnel in the line of duty and ammo used exclusively for training or at ranges would be exempt from the increase, but only when used in those capacities. Caught violating the regulation, you lose your guns and ammo for 10 years. Keep those range owners on the up and up so they don't start selling on the side and letting Randy Rifle take it home.

mcgruff10

Gern Blansten said:

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

vaggar99 said:

you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  

Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.

500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 

Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?

I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1158453079035002881

Ledbetterman10

Two more have passed away in El Paso...bringing the death count to 22. Such a sad state of affairs. You can't even walk into a Walmart these days without having to fear for your life. 

mcgruff10

Maybe the wave is starting:
https://apple.news/Az1TJ3zGnSQeh95GxwsX-dA

Republican state lawmaker criticizes his party for 'enabling white supremacy'

josevolution

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  

That's an excellent idea.  

How would that be regulated the range would have to count ammo in&out of range ..

mrussel1

josevolution said:

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  

That's an excellent idea.  

How would that be regulated the range would have to count ammo in&out of range ..

That's right.  Put in a metal detector so you can't leave with any ammo.  

oftenreading

mcgruff10 said:

Maybe the wave is starting:
https://apple.news/Az1TJ3zGnSQeh95GxwsX-dA

Republican state lawmaker criticizes his party for 'enabling white supremacy'

Maybe it is. We can hope. 

Or maybe it’s not. 

https://apple.news/A_wy8FGq7T6qYdwPn1Z-PJg

Ohio State Rep blamed everything from gay marriage and trans people to Obama to professional athletes who take a knee for this shooting. Thankfully, some of her GOP colleagues have called her out. 

Gern Blansten

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

vaggar99 said:

you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  

Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.

500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 

Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?

I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  

I guess it depends on how many bodies pile up

lastexitlondon

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oftenreading

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

vaggar99 said:

you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  

Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.

500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 

Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?

I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  

You’re right, it has zero chance of passing - as long as gun owners have that mentality. If the gun lovers ever actually said “we need to find a way to solve this”, things would be different. Instead, it’s always “that’ll never work”. 

mcgruff10

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

vaggar99 said:

you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  

Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.

500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 

Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?

I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  

You’re right, it has zero chance of passing - as long as gun owners have that mentality. If the gun lovers ever actually said “we need to find a way to solve this”, things would be different. Instead, it’s always “that’ll never work”. 

I listed about ten other things that I would be ok with, taxing the shit out of something is not the answer imo.  As a gun owner I am pretty open minded but I definitely do not agree with this idea.  

mrussel1

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mcgruff10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

vaggar99 said:

you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  

Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.

500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 

Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?

I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  

You’re right, it has zero chance of passing - as long as gun owners have that mentality. If the gun lovers ever actually said “we need to find a way to solve this”, things would be different. Instead, it’s always “that’ll never work”. 

500% is a bit over the top, but I don't know that it has zero chance.  There have been "sin" taxes on alcohol and tobacco for years.  The same concepts can be applied.  In fact, state and local gov't could accomplish this if they had the political will.  It doesn't have to be federal.  

lastexitlondon

Take the gun away and what do you have......no trigger. Simple  . Please explain why you MUST  have a gun please tell me?

mcgruff10

lastexitlondon said:

Take the gun away and what do you have......no trigger. Simple  

You and I know that will never happen.