America's Gun Violence

mickeyrat

My idea is to implement a nationally standardized test.

We will call it the "Are you too fucking stupid to have this grave responsibilty" test

PP193448

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dudeman said:

More is not necessarily better. That guy is a moron and he should have his license revoked at the very least.

But this is the thing that begs tighter regulations: morons run rampant.

If you could centralize the morons and let the morons act like morons in Moronville... no intervention necessary; however, as it stands, morons are strewn about everywhere doing moroinic things while they moron about among people with half a brain.

I'd even say the moron is the majority.

Maybe an IQ test as part of a background check?

"Hey Cletus... didjya git ur gun?"
"Nah, Jim Bob Cooter. I couldn't git it. The folks at that der office building gave me some sort of test that said I couldn't. I reckon I'll go git mahself one of dem der slingshots."

There needs to be moron island. They can televise it like survivor, and the rest of us can enjoy...

Bentleyspop

mickeyrat said:

My idea is to implement a nationally standardized test.

We will call it the "Are you too fucking stupid to have this grave responsibilty" test

Isn't that the same test that should be used for parental certification?

PP193448

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

My idea is to implement a nationally standardized test.

We will call it the "Are you too fucking stupid to have this grave responsibilty" test

Isn't that the same test that should be used for parental certification?

I think so... Maybe can we have politicians and government employees like IRS take the same tests???

PJ_Soul

mickeyrat said:

Tell me again why more is better?

http://nbc4i.com/2015/12/07/shot-fired-when-customer-tries-to-stop-shoplifter/

Yeah, and that's why we don't want civilians walking around with guns thinking they can fight crime with their bullets.

HughFreakingDillon

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Who is this Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore? Pic is from this article http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-fiore-gun-christmas-card
This is the kind of xmas cards some of your elected officials send?
Our countries are on different planets when it comes to guns. Wow.

we are all missing the obvious.........why don't the babies have guns? they have second ammendment rights, don't they? there's no age restriction in the constitution!!! at least a gun-shaped soother? or a diaper that says "stop or I'll toot" on it?

they should all be wearing shirts that say "white trash matters".

mickeyrat

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Who is this Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore? Pic is from this article http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-fiore-gun-christmas-card
This is the kind of xmas cards some of your elected officials send?
Our countries are on different planets when it comes to guns. Wow.

we are all missing the obvious.........why don't the babies have guns? they have second ammendment rights, don't they? there's no age restriction in the constitution!!! at least a gun-shaped soother? or a diaper that says "stop or I'll toot" on it?

they should all be wearing shirts that say "white trash matters".

You cant see the diaper holster cuz they are facing left.

callen

Dude, cops make mistakes. Now wanna be vigilant

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Who is this Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore? Pic is from this article http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-fiore-gun-christmas-card
This is the kind of xmas cards some of your elected officials send?
Our countries are on different planets when it comes to guns. Wow.

we are all missing the obvious.........why don't the babies have guns? they have second ammendment rights, don't they? there's no age restriction in the constitution!!! at least a gun-shaped soother? or a diaper that says "stop or I'll toot" on it?

they should all be wearing shirts that say "white trash matters".

Hmmm. Wonder if they also believe in the Bible. Ayatollah Cruz and his extremists.

And of course they're breeding.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Who is this Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore? Pic is from this article http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-fiore-gun-christmas-card
This is the kind of xmas cards some of your elected officials send?
Our countries are on different planets when it comes to guns. Wow.

Look at the wuss on the right.

Pffft. Nice 'little' gun.

Like... get a freakin' gun already- not a gawddamn little pea shooter. May as well have rubber bands. Who's that gonna kill big boy, huh?

dudeman

I think this might help us to actually get somewhere, or at least help us to understand each other's point of view a little better:

WARNING: There is profanity and swearing in this article.

https://popehat.com/2015/12/07/talking-productively-about-guns/

oftenreading

dudeman said:

I think this might help us to actually get somewhere, or at least help us to understand each other's point of view a little better:

WARNING: There is profanity and swearing in this article.

https://popehat.com/2015/12/07/talking-productively-about-guns/

Not just profanity, but swearing too? On a PJ website? What is the world coming to?

g under p

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Who is this Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore? Pic is from this article http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-fiore-gun-christmas-card
This is the kind of xmas cards some of your elected officials send?
Our countries are on different planets when it comes to guns. Wow.

Wait this picture is for real....man what is this country coming to....even that 7-8 year old boy appears to be holding a glock. WOW!

Peace

dudeman

oftenreading said:

dudeman said:

I think this might help us to actually get somewhere, or at least help us to understand each other's point of view a little better:

WARNING: There is profanity and swearing in this article.

https://popehat.com/2015/12/07/talking-productively-about-guns/

Not just profanity, but swearing too? On a PJ website? What is the world coming to?

Just trying to be mindful of those that may find the language in the article offensive. This is supposed to be an "all ages" forum, you know.

jnimhaoileoin

Good article

http://www.upworthy.com/what-google-can-show-us-about-our-reaction-to-mass-shootings?c=upw1&u=c80c2afdb12dac2ba0fe19cc32beb3255f1c785a

oceaninmyeyes

So I am sure this is a good idea. WTF?!!!
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/08/fox-news-tells-young-children-to-run-at-active/207321

Gern Blansten

g under p said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Who is this Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore? Pic is from this article http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-fiore-gun-christmas-card
This is the kind of xmas cards some of your elected officials send?
Our countries are on different planets when it comes to guns. Wow.

Wait this picture is for real....man what is this country coming to....even that 7-8 year old boy appears to be holding a glock. WOW!

Peace

my thoughts exactly....I can't get over politicians that become gun experts as soon as they run for office. The people that this appeals to are the LCD of red neck society.

oceaninmyeyes

The woman is a certifiable whack-a-doo. Did you see her statement yesterday,

"What, are you kidding me? I’m about to fly to Paris and shoot ‘em in the head myself,” Fiore said, adding, "I am not OK with Syrian refugees. I’m not OK with terrorists. I’m OK with putting them down, blacking them out, just put a piece of brass in their ocular cavity and end their miserable life. I'm good with that."

lasvegassun.com/news/2015/dec/07/michele-fiore-says-she-wants-to-shoot-syrian-refug/

OffSheGoes35

Whack-a-doo?
C'mon now...it takes a special kind of grandma to make you Enfamil and jalapeno smoothies and rock you to sleep singing "Bodies" by Drowning Pool.

TL170678

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

oceaninmyeyes

^^ infowars.com is run by Alex Jones. Mr Jones is an American conspiracy theorist,radio show host, documentary filmmaker, and writer. After high school he attended Austin Community College.

Neil deGrasse Tyson is an American astrophysicist, cosmologist, author, and science communicator. BA degree from Harvard MA Univ of Texas:Austin and PhD from Columbia. Since 1996, he has been the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York City. The center is part of the American Museum of Natural History, where Tyson founded the Department of Astrophysics in 1997 and has been a research associate in the department since 2003. His numbers:

1.4 Million: Americans who died in all Wars fought since 1776.
1.4 Million: Americans who died via household Guns since 1968

400,000: Americans who died fighting in World War II.
400,000: Americans who died by household Firearms since 2001

3,400: Americans who died by Terrorism since 2001
3,400: Americans who died by household Firearms since five weeks ago.

upworthy.com/instead-of-arguing-about-guns-on-twitter-neil-degrasse-tyson-just-laid-out-the-numbers

Call me crazy, but I think I'm going with Neil's numbers.

mickeyrat

TL170678 said:

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

So addressing it for the deaths from suicide isnt valid either.

Got it. Fuck you people too. Sooner you die the better.

Thanks for sharing.

PJ_Soul

TL170678 said:

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

What a load of crap!!!!! Oh god, PLEASE don't believe anything you see on that website!
Here are the US stats compiled by the FBI... Probably a better source than a fucking website run by Alex Jones, who is pretty much the anti-Christ.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls

See, this is why I'm terrified of the American right. They have no qualms whatsoever in straight up spreading baldfaced LIES, and millions and millions of people believe the lies and base their opinions on the lies and spread the lies as fact. It is fucking horrifying.

Bentleyspop

TL170678 said:

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

Awesome
You quote and use alex jones as source for your information.
What's next? A link that proves that Eddie Vedder is a member of the illuminati?
Or that he's part of the new world order?
Or that the U.S. is run by ZOG?
Or how about this golden oldy...the jews run everything

jnimhaoileoin

oceaninmyeyes said:

^^ infowars.com is run by Alex Jones. Mr Jones is an American conspiracy theorist,radio show host, documentary filmmaker, and writer. After high school he attended Austin Community College.

Neil deGrasse Tyson is an American astrophysicist, cosmologist, author, and science communicator. BA degree from Harvard MA Univ of Texas:Austin and PhD from Columbia. Since 1996, he has been the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York City. The center is part of the American Museum of Natural History, where Tyson founded the Department of Astrophysics in 1997 and has been a research associate in the department since 2003. His numbers:

1.4 Million: Americans who died in all Wars fought since 1776.
1.4 Million: Americans who died via household Guns since 1968

400,000: Americans who died fighting in World War II.
400,000: Americans who died by household Firearms since 2001

3,400: Americans who died by Terrorism since 2001
3,400: Americans who died by household Firearms since five weeks ago.

upworthy.com/instead-of-arguing-about-guns-on-twitter-neil-degrasse-tyson-just-laid-out-the-numbers

Call me crazy, but I think I'm going with Neil's numbers.

Now those are very interesting stats

Thirty Bills Unpaid

TL170678 said:

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

Don't forget old age. We should ban birthdays too.

mcgruff10

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

TL170678 said:

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

Don't forget old age. We should ban birthdays too.

You re turning fifty this year right?

callen

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

TL170678 said:

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

Don't forget old age. We should ban birthdays too.

You re turning fifty this year right?

Yeah need to take thirty out back. Past his producing years. Put him out of his misery.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

TL170678 said:

Cars Kill over 30,000 in America, more than guns
Knifes kill 5X more than rifles (Including that scary assault rifle)
Over half of Americas gun violence is inner-city gang related (illegal guns)
The other 14,000, sure it`s a lot, but it`s not terrible more than Europe.
We need to fix poverty, drug abuse, mental health to rid ourselves of violence. People will always find a way to kill, they did hundreds to thousands of years ago before guns, they always will.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-far-more-murders-committed-with-knives-than-assault-rifles/

Don't forget old age. We should ban birthdays too.

You re turning fifty this year right?

Pretty damn close, Scruffy.

"Those were the days my friend... we're almost at the end. We're getting old and yes we're turning grey. We lived the life we choose. We can't stay off the booze..."

ldent42

This is fun: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/12/gun_deaths_map_how_many_people_have_died_or_been_injured_in_shootings_around.html?wpsrc=huffpo

put in your address/zipcode and see how many shooting have taken place within one mile of your place this year! I got: There has been 1 shooting within a 1-mile radius of this point in the past year, 0 fatal and 1 non-fatal. The closest shooting was 0.91 miles away.

jeffbr

Interesting website. There has been 1 shooting, a fatal shooting 1.06 miles from my house this past year. A 22 year old son killed his 51 year old father on Jan 9, 2015.