America's Gun Violence

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    So many potential threads to put this in. Should it be America's Gun Violence? Should it be the police abuse thread? Should it be the idiot threat? The officer appears to be an idiot, but that diminishes the violence offered to this innocent guy.

    And of course, the victim isn't white.....

    Watch an off duty police officer draw his gun on a man in a gas station convenience store that he believed stole a pack of mints, simply because he entered the store after the guy had paid for the mints.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/watch-off-duty-california-police-officer-pull-gun-on-man-he-thought-had-stolen-mentos.html
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    edited May 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    But I thought more guns equated to more safety?

    https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/03/denver-homicides-2018/
    Colorado has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. 
    I’m only familiar with gun laws in CA and CO. By comparison to California CO is nothing. What about the laws here is so tough compared to other states?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,196
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    But I thought more guns equated to more safety?

    https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/03/denver-homicides-2018/
    Colorado has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. 
    I’m only familiar with gun laws in CA and CO. By comparison to California CO is nothing. What about the laws here is so tough compared to other states?
    I know colorado is one of the few states that have 10 round mag limits.  And you would be correct, colorado gun laws are nothing compared to california (although being from new jersey I know how californians feel).
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    Another decent tweet

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142
    edited May 2018
    Another “responsible” gun owner until he's not.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/us/george-zimmerman-stalking/index.html
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    I'm all for teaching kids gun safety, but this is just some backwards thinking. Especially the comment about how it's "adorable" a 4 year old can change a magazine on a rifle. Then the other girl whose goal was to kill a bunch of exotic animals by age 14. What the hell? At least she got a picture with her hero...



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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142
    Just another "responsible" gun owner until he decided not to be.

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/05/08/us/08reuters-maryland-shooting.html

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another “responsible” gun owner until he's not.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/us/george-zimmerman-stalking/index.html
    Dude's been arrested like 98 fucking times... but Trayvon Martin was the "thug."
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another "responsible" gun owner until he decided not to be.

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/05/08/us/08reuters-maryland-shooting.html

    I almost shit myself when I read this!  I graduated high school with a Chris Snyder.  We were good friends, went to school together since 3rd grade, and he would be 41.  Pretty sure he became a State Trooper and moved down toward DC.  I found a Washington Post article with the dude's picture - thank god it's a different guy.

    I mean, I'm not thankful that 3 people are dead in my home state which has super strict gun laws.  But that's why my mind went there so quick.  It's tough to even get a handgun here - thought for an instant that maybe it was him and he used a police issued weapon. But again, different guy.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another "responsible" gun owner until he decided not to be.

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/05/08/us/08reuters-maryland-shooting.html

    I almost shit myself when I read this!  I graduated high school with a Chris Snyder.  We were good friends, went to school together since 3rd grade, and he would be 41.  Pretty sure he became a State Trooper and moved down toward DC.  I found a Washington Post article with the dude's picture - thank god it's a different guy.

    I mean, I'm not thankful that 3 people are dead in my home state which has super strict gun laws.  But that's why my mind went there so quick.  It's tough to even get a handgun here - thought for an instant that maybe it was him and he used a police issued weapon. But again, different guy.
    But right next door in Virginia, I believe, its not and close enough, there's South Carolina and Tennessee. Access to firearms is not problematic wherever one resides.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142
    Hey look! It’s a whole county of “responsible” gun owners. Until they’re not.

    Pro-Trump Maryland billboard warns liberals to 'get your guns' if impeachment occurs - Fox News https://apple.news/AJc6U2kqlR1-78eVZpz7T_Q
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hey look! It’s a whole county of “responsible” gun owners. Until they’re not.

    Pro-Trump Maryland billboard warns liberals to 'get your guns' if impeachment occurs - Fox News https://apple.news/AJc6U2kqlR1-78eVZpz7T_Q

    fucking losers.... i'm not scared
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    edited May 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another "responsible" gun owner until he decided not to be.

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/05/08/us/08reuters-maryland-shooting.html

    I almost shit myself when I read this!  I graduated high school with a Chris Snyder.  We were good friends, went to school together since 3rd grade, and he would be 41.  Pretty sure he became a State Trooper and moved down toward DC.  I found a Washington Post article with the dude's picture - thank god it's a different guy.

    I mean, I'm not thankful that 3 people are dead in my home state which has super strict gun laws.  But that's why my mind went there so quick.  It's tough to even get a handgun here - thought for an instant that maybe it was him and he used a police issued weapon. But again, different guy.
    But right next door in Virginia, I believe, its not and close enough, there's South Carolina and Tennessee. Access to firearms is not problematic wherever one resides.
    It's kind of the same where I live.  I'm 5 minutes away from PA to the north and 5 minutes away from WV to the east.  There are 2 other quick accesses to WV within 45 minutes, and VA is about the same to the southeast. There is probably nowhere in Maryland that you aren't within 45 minutes of another state.

    As a matter of fact, there is a shooting range 5 minutes away that allows you to rent assault weapons.  It's right next to the pawn shop that sells them.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142
    So much for the rule of law. Maybe the legislature should withhold all state funding? Effingham no less. I can think of one poster who’s moving.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/us/illinois-sanctuary-counties-gun-owners-trnd/index.html


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  • JC29856
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    anyone see or hear from the songbird Mr. NRA himself?
    another one making book money! We should write about about Trump< we could donate the proceeds to the Paris Agreement fund to sto[ carbon fuels...but what would we call it?
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I saw this article on my local online newspaper today, and it make me stop and think, given all the discussion that occur on AMT.

    Because here, it's news when an officer draws their gun.

    http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/nanaimo-officer-draws-gun-while-making-arrest-1.23300388
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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/16/indiana-police-ambush-by-gunman-who-allegedly-killed-neighbor-shown-in-dramatic-video.html

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