America's Gun Violence

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,063
    OnWis97 said:
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/
    I understand being angry with someone flying a Nazi flag and wanting to do something about it, but how dumb can you be? Anyone willing to display a Nazi flag is obviously fucking crazy. That's the last type of person who's yard I'd be running up on. 

    OnWis97 said:
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/

    Crazy.  Obviously no charges will be filed.  She went on his property and tried to steal something.  In America (at least depending on state), that's his right.  And she should not do that, but why doesn't crap like this happen in other countries?  Do people not run into front yards and take signs in other countries?  Do people in other countries not feel that it's worth killing someone over?  Speaking for myself, if someone did that to me, I couldn't shoot them (even if I owned a gun).  Of course, mine would not be a nazi flag; it would be something like BLM.  But the principal is the same. While she doesn't have the right to do that, it's amazing to me that some people are just looking for an excuse...

    I could not live with taking a life (which is a very possible outcome of shooting at someone multiple times) because of what essentially amounts to a politically motivated prank (or, I guess, petty theft).
    The article says he "is in the Garfield County Detention Center on charges of shooting with the intent to kill and assault and battery with a deadly weapon."


    Didn't read closely...
    ...I can't imagine any conviction.  She went in his yard and grabbed something.  Assuming she's white, that changes the game a bit, I suppose.

    So is theft under generally considered sufficient justification to attempt to kill someone?
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 2,334
    OnWis97 said:
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/
    I understand being angry with someone flying a Nazi flag and wanting to do something about it, but how dumb can you be? Anyone willing to display a Nazi flag is obviously fucking crazy. That's the last type of person who's yard I'd be running up on. 

    OnWis97 said:
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/

    Crazy.  Obviously no charges will be filed.  She went on his property and tried to steal something.  In America (at least depending on state), that's his right.  And she should not do that, but why doesn't crap like this happen in other countries?  Do people not run into front yards and take signs in other countries?  Do people in other countries not feel that it's worth killing someone over?  Speaking for myself, if someone did that to me, I couldn't shoot them (even if I owned a gun).  Of course, mine would not be a nazi flag; it would be something like BLM.  But the principal is the same. While she doesn't have the right to do that, it's amazing to me that some people are just looking for an excuse...

    I could not live with taking a life (which is a very possible outcome of shooting at someone multiple times) because of what essentially amounts to a politically motivated prank (or, I guess, petty theft).
    The article says he "is in the Garfield County Detention Center on charges of shooting with the intent to kill and assault and battery with a deadly weapon."


    Didn't read closely...
    ...I can't imagine any conviction.  She went in his yard and grabbed something.  Assuming she's white, that changes the game a bit, I suppose.

    So is theft under generally considered sufficient justification to attempt to kill someone?
    Not in my opinion or where I live.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 2,422

    So is theft under generally considered sufficient justification to attempt to kill someone?

    Not to me. But in America?  When she went on his property?  I think he'll have a lot of "court of public opinion" backing (though the fact that it was a swastika flag will definitely impact that as opposed it having been a sign for a candidate or something).  On this very board, we had a discussion years ago about a guy who called 911 as his next-door neighbor's house was being burglarized.  The dispatcher told him to stay put...the burglars went out a window and he shot them.  I did not support this action. I was in the minority. 
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    Just another “responsible” gun owner, doing what “responsible” gun owners do. Is she “permitted” or was she given a gun, Willy nilly? Maybe that passes for Michigan’s gun safety course as she didn’t shoot anyone?
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 2,334
    I'd like to see what transpired before the filming began. This is straight up craziness. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 725
    dudeman said:
    I'd like to see what transpired before the filming began. This is straight up craziness. 
    Probably nothing that would legitimize leveling the threat of immediate death at someone.
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