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America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 24,642
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 5,184
    She says she loves me, but needs $5000 to be able to travel here.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 24,642
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 5,184
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    As a gun owner its hard for me to have an opinion based on a picture like that, there's literally no information, what am I supposed to be upset about? IS she talking about printing a gun?  My understanding is that certain parts of guns can't legally be 3D printed and require serial numbers. Even if that's not the case, this isn't In The Line of Fire, and I wouldn't trust a plastic printed gun.
    I'm not going to get fired up over a screen shot that has no information and may or may not even be legit. How are we supposed to react?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 24,642
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    You want me to enforce law and arrest these people?

    Not sure on what me, the responsible one is supposed to do?  It is against the law to have an unregistered handgun already.

    This is like me saying to you "Halifax, pirating music is illegal yet there you are , not caring that your favorite bands music is being traded illegally."
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 5,184
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    You want me to enforce law and arrest these people?

    Not sure on what me, the responsible one is supposed to do?  It is against the law to have an unregistered handgun already.

    This is like me saying to you "Halifax, pirating music is illegal yet there you are , not caring that your favorite bands music is being traded illegally."
    WTF?!!  I thought Metallica already took care of that?!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    mace1229 said:
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    As a gun owner its hard for me to have an opinion based on a picture like that, there's literally no information, what am I supposed to be upset about? IS she talking about printing a gun?  My understanding is that certain parts of guns can't legally be 3D printed and require serial numbers. Even if that's not the case, this isn't In The Line of Fire, and I wouldn't trust a plastic printed gun.
    I'm not going to get fired up over a screen shot that has no information and may or may not even be legit. How are we supposed to react?
    Go to Drudge and click on the link. Are you denying that untraceable guns are not an issue? Never heard of it before? Need more facts before forming an opinion?
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 5,184
    mace1229 said:
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    As a gun owner its hard for me to have an opinion based on a picture like that, there's literally no information, what am I supposed to be upset about? IS she talking about printing a gun?  My understanding is that certain parts of guns can't legally be 3D printed and require serial numbers. Even if that's not the case, this isn't In The Line of Fire, and I wouldn't trust a plastic printed gun.
    I'm not going to get fired up over a screen shot that has no information and may or may not even be legit. How are we supposed to react?
    Go to Drudge and click on the link. Are you denying that untraceable guns are not an issue? Never heard of it before? Need more facts before forming an opinion?
    Your post was about that specific "responsible gun owner" and how she is promoting it. You provided a screen shot without information and expected us to be fired up. I don't feel like going to a website and clicking on an unfamiliar link about how to make an illegal gun on my work computer right now.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    You want me to enforce law and arrest these people?

    Not sure on what me, the responsible one is supposed to do?  It is against the law to have an unregistered handgun already.

    This is like me saying to you "Halifax, pirating music is illegal yet there you are , not caring that your favorite bands music is being traded illegally."
    Except my ignoring music piracy doesn't result in unneeded death. As a "responsible" gun owner, I'd expect you to be an advocate for "responsible" gun laws and lobby your elected officials and representative trade groups to encourage "responsible" gun ownership. I have yet to see an advertisement that encourages "responsible" gun ownership, as a public service announcement. Nothing can be done.
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • JW269453JW269453 Lubbock, TXPosts: 592
    Putin on the ritz controlled Napster so they could funnel money into TTT's future "responsible" gun owner's club, Lars was just a distraction put forth by the deep state. Word on the street anyway.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 24,642
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    You want me to enforce law and arrest these people?

    Not sure on what me, the responsible one is supposed to do?  It is against the law to have an unregistered handgun already.

    This is like me saying to you "Halifax, pirating music is illegal yet there you are , not caring that your favorite bands music is being traded illegally."
    Except my ignoring music piracy doesn't result in unneeded death. As a "responsible" gun owner, I'd expect you to be an advocate for "responsible" gun laws and lobby your elected officials and representative trade groups to encourage "responsible" gun ownership. I have yet to see an advertisement that encourages "responsible" gun ownership, as a public service announcement. Nothing can be done.
    I'm fine with the laws that are in place.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    You want me to enforce law and arrest these people?

    Not sure on what me, the responsible one is supposed to do?  It is against the law to have an unregistered handgun already.

    This is like me saying to you "Halifax, pirating music is illegal yet there you are , not caring that your favorite bands music is being traded illegally."
    Except my ignoring music piracy doesn't result in unneeded death. As a "responsible" gun owner, I'd expect you to be an advocate for "responsible" gun laws and lobby your elected officials and representative trade groups to encourage "responsible" gun ownership. I have yet to see an advertisement that encourages "responsible" gun ownership, as a public service announcement. Nothing can be done.
    I'm fine with the laws that are in place.  
    And the lack of enforcement and accountability as well, I assume?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    It’s an advertisement on Drudge, not an article.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    As a gun owner its hard for me to have an opinion based on a picture like that, there's literally no information, what am I supposed to be upset about? IS she talking about printing a gun?  My understanding is that certain parts of guns can't legally be 3D printed and require serial numbers. Even if that's not the case, this isn't In The Line of Fire, and I wouldn't trust a plastic printed gun.
    I'm not going to get fired up over a screen shot that has no information and may or may not even be legit. How are we supposed to react?
    Go to Drudge and click on the link. Are you denying that untraceable guns are not an issue? Never heard of it before? Need more facts before forming an opinion?
    Your post was about that specific "responsible gun owner" and how she is promoting it. You provided a screen shot without information and expected us to be fired up. I don't feel like going to a website and clicking on an unfamiliar link about how to make an illegal gun on my work computer right now.
    I didn’t expect you to be fired up about it. I got about what I expected.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 24,642
    It’s an advertisement on Drudge, not an article.
    Ahhh, that's interesting.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 24,642
    I guess this is “responsible?” Why would a “responsible” gun owner need an untraceable gun and why is it being advertised and encouraged?




    That seems like a troll post.  Click on it and let us know what happens.
    C’mon man, it’s Drudge’s website. Regardless, why should that be allowed? As if the flood of guns already doesn’t make every cop think everyone they encounter is armed, we now have to be concerned that “responsible” gun owners are building or making their own untraceable guns. Where do you think the majority of those end up?
    I'm glad that you find making an unlicensed handgun responsible.

    it really is hard for me to take you seriously when you know the answers already.
    But where is the "responsible" gun owner outrage? Or is it just another "slippery slope" gun grab? The "responsible" gun owners hold the key and yet, its meh. Particularly when law enforcement has voiced major concerns about building your own unregistered/untraceable firearm.

    Its hard for me to take "responsible" gun owners seriously when they knowingly contribute to or willfully look the other way as it relates to the gun violence epidemic in this country.
    You want me to enforce law and arrest these people?

    Not sure on what me, the responsible one is supposed to do?  It is against the law to have an unregistered handgun already.

    This is like me saying to you "Halifax, pirating music is illegal yet there you are , not caring that your favorite bands music is being traded illegally."
    Except my ignoring music piracy doesn't result in unneeded death. As a "responsible" gun owner, I'd expect you to be an advocate for "responsible" gun laws and lobby your elected officials and representative trade groups to encourage "responsible" gun ownership. I have yet to see an advertisement that encourages "responsible" gun ownership, as a public service announcement. Nothing can be done.
    I'm fine with the laws that are in place.  
    And the lack of enforcement and accountability as well, I assume?
    When it comes to you and your agenda?  Absolutely.

    We could never agree on what laws would pacify you.  I would want all 50 states in agreement.  One blanket set of rules.  I want to be able to know my rights across the country.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    Another "responsible" gun owner, 17 years old in Kenosha, WI. Guess he owns a gas station too? Not impossible but...........
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,080
    Suspect arrested after 2 are killed at Kenosha protest 
    Https://news.yahoo.com/kenosha-police-3-shot-2-101241058.html

    Two people were killed Tuesday night in an attack carried out by a young white man who was caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,585
    So, will the "responsible" gun owner in Wisconsin be held accountable for the illegal transfer of his/her weapon? Should they be sued in civil court for their negligence by the two dead victim's families? I look forward to the argument that, "oh well, he was 17 and close enough to 18 to possess."

    Wisconsin generally prohibits the intentional transfer of any firearm to an individual under age 18.1

    The state also generally prohibits the possession of a firearm by any person under age 18.2

    These restrictions do not apply, however, when the firearm is being used by a person under age 18 when supervised by an adult during target practice or a course of instruction.3

    Wisconsin law generally provides that for hunting purposes, the minimum age for possession or control of a firearm is age 12.4 A person age 12 but under age 14 may not hunt without being accompanied by his or her parent, guardian or a person at least 18 years of age who is designated by the parent or guardian.5 A young person 12 to 14 years of age also may possess a firearm if he or she is enrolled in instruction under the state hunter education program and is carrying the firearm in a case, unloaded, to or from that class, or is handling or operating the firearm during that class under the supervision of an instructor.6

    Federal age restrictions also apply.

    See our Minimum Age to Purchase / Possess Firearms policy summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue.

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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,057
    Suspect arrested after 2 are killed at Kenosha protest 
    Https://news.yahoo.com/kenosha-police-3-shot-2-101241058.html

    Two people were killed Tuesday night in an attack carried out by a young white man who was caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle.
    Before he shot people, he was part of a group of armed civilians protecting businesses.  The police thanked them and offered them water.  Shorty after, he shot and killed two people.  After he shot the people, he walked by the cops and not one officer or cop car stopped him. 

    Argue all you want folks about your second amendment.  In Canada, what I just described... and what literally played out last night ON CAMERA... would not have happened. And it's because we do not allow civilians to parade around with guns. 

    I'll add this as well FWIW...   I remember years ago this father posted what would become a "viral video" somewhere in the States.  He was in an argument with his daughter about her not doing chores... so to illustrate his point and drive home his solid parenting skills... he took her cell phone away, brought it outside, and shot the shit out of it.  People thought it was hilarious... "way to go Dad!" "You showed her!"  And my jaw hit the floor.  I couldn't help but think "WOW!" This kind of crap is not only tolerated, but applauded in the States.  If that video was created in Canada, he would have been promptly arrested and charged.  

    To all of you gun enthusiasts and second amendment protectors on here... Sandy Hook should have been all it took to shut you up.  But here we are. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 5,184
    Another "responsible" gun owner, 17 years old in Kenosha, WI. Guess he owns a gas station too? Not impossible but...........
    He couldn't legally own that gun at 17, so I wouldn't call his responsible. Pretty sure hw cant buy ammo either. 
    Yeah, I know, the gun is owned by someone else who is the "responsible" owner. But you were calling him the responsible owner, and he isn't. Just a stupid kid who murdered 2 people.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 5,781
    mace1229 said:
    Another "responsible" gun owner, 17 years old in Kenosha, WI. Guess he owns a gas station too? Not impossible but...........
    He couldn't legally own that gun at 17, so I wouldn't call his responsible. Pretty sure hw cant buy ammo either. 
    Yeah, I know, the gun is owned by someone else who is the "responsible" owner. But you were calling him the responsible owner, and he isn't. Just a stupid kid who murdered 2 people.
    Yeah, it’s a bit disturbed that this 17 year old was there at all, what are the parents doing?
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 14,078
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    Another "responsible" gun owner, 17 years old in Kenosha, WI. Guess he owns a gas station too? Not impossible but...........
    He couldn't legally own that gun at 17, so I wouldn't call his responsible. Pretty sure hw cant buy ammo either. 
    Yeah, I know, the gun is owned by someone else who is the "responsible" owner. But you were calling him the responsible owner, and he isn't. Just a stupid kid who murdered 2 people.
    Yeah, it’s a bit disturbed that this 17 year old was there at all, what are the parents doing?
    I think when you're a teenager that's walking around a riot scene with a semi-automatic, the answer of "what are the parents doing?" has already long been answered. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 8,629
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    Another "responsible" gun owner, 17 years old in Kenosha, WI. Guess he owns a gas station too? Not impossible but...........
    He couldn't legally own that gun at 17, so I wouldn't call his responsible. Pretty sure hw cant buy ammo either. 
    Yeah, I know, the gun is owned by someone else who is the "responsible" owner. But you were calling him the responsible owner, and he isn't. Just a stupid kid who murdered 2 people.
    Yeah, it’s a bit disturbed that this 17 year old was there at all, what are the parents doing?
    All of your earlier assumptions sure look stupid now eh?

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot! (Chris Jericho)Posts: 22,997
    so when will trump or any of his bootlickers disavow civilians shooting protesters?
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