America's Gun Violence

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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    21 year old woman shot dead walking her dog with her boyfriend.


    It's a shame nothing can be done.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Better shut down Charlotte. Call in the military. Oh yea, “responsible” gun owners just doing their thing.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/us/charlotte-shooting/index.html


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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,426
    Over 100 shootings in Chicago? Over this last weekend? What the actual fuck. Am I reading that right??
  • lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 417
    nicknyr15 said:
    Over 100 shootings in Chicago? Over this last weekend? What the actual fuck. Am I reading that right??
    You did not read that wrong...Apparently Shitcago did not get the memo that BLM.....And in other news, All mirrors have been removed from all stores in Chicago.  

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/104-shot-14-fatally-over-fathers-day-weekend-in-chicago


  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    nicknyr15 said:
    Over 100 shootings in Chicago? Over this last weekend? What the actual fuck. Am I reading that right??
    Just wait for July 4th weekend, hard to distinguish gunshots with all of the fireworks popping off. It has become a known retaliation time for “responsible” gang members who will likely not be mentioned here. This year will be interesting with how popular police officers are right now. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Being so “responsible,” what are they afraid of? Gubmint going to know who and where you are, swoop down in black helicopters, snatch all your guns and put you in the obamafema camp?

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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Being so “responsible,” what are they afraid of? Gubmint going to know who and where you are, swoop down in black helicopters, snatch all your guns and put you in the obamafema camp?

    https://apple.news/AFoL7l_FER7yiUznaHdOhQQ

    Shouldn't she be in jail?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Smellyman said:
    Being so “responsible,” what are they afraid of? Gubmint going to know who and where you are, swoop down in black helicopters, snatch all your guns and put you in the obamafema camp?

    https://apple.news/AFoL7l_FER7yiUznaHdOhQQ

    Shouldn't she be in jail?
    With CYA Barr’s DOJ? Are you kidding me?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,752
    Responsible? No
    Bad dressers? Yes
    Tacky home design? Yes
    Supporters of the current president? More than likely 
    Racist? Definitely 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Jesus, get your finger off the trigger. 


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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    Those two people could have killed every one of those protesters and been acquitted.  So it ended well.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    OnWis97 said:
    Those two people could have killed every one of those protesters and been acquitted.  So it ended well.
    Still, the next time a group of “protesters” enter a private gated community, the residents shouldn’t have their finger on the trigger like that. Never put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    OnWis97 said:
    Those two people could have killed every one of those protesters and been acquitted.  So it ended well.
    Still, the next time a group of “protesters” enter a private gated community, the residents shouldn’t have their finger on the trigger like that. Never put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot. 

    Was it private?  Or was the gate just decorative.  Looks like a public road to me.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Those two people could have killed every one of those protesters and been acquitted.  So it ended well.
    Still, the next time a group of “protesters” enter a private gated community, the residents shouldn’t have their finger on the trigger like that. Never put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot. 
    Was it private?  Or was the gate just decorative.  Looks like a public road to me.
    I'm not positive what type of road it is. All I know is they were all marching to the mayor's house to call for the mayor's resignation (the usual shit these days). If I was those two, I wouldn't have gone out with my gun. But if for some reason I did, I wouldn't have my finger over the trigger. 

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,482
    Jesus, get your finger off the trigger. 


    Idiot.  Plus bad shooting form, just the tip of the finger.  I m guessing she needs some practice And education on firearm safety.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    mcgruff10 said:
    Jesus, get your finger off the trigger. 


    Idiot.  Plus bad shooting form, just the tip of the finger.  I m guessing she needs some practice And education on firearm safety.  
    There's no way she's ever held a gun before. And you're right, way too much trigger-finger. She wouldn't hit anyone if she tried...unless that person was low and to the left of where she was aiming. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,482
    edited June 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    Jesus, get your finger off the trigger. 


    Idiot.  Plus bad shooting form, just the tip of the finger.  I m guessing she needs some practice And education on firearm safety.  
    There's no way she's ever held a gun before. And you're right, way too much trigger-finger. She wouldn't hit anyone if she tried...unless that person was low and to the left of where she was aiming. 
    Totally agree it was her first time holding a gun. We ll never know but $100 says the gun isn’t even loaded (and even if it was unloaded, it is not an excuse to point a gun at anyone.)
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Seeing that they seemed the aggressors and someone in the crowd had a CCP, felt threatened and shot them, would they be acquitted? Depends on their color, maybe?
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    mcgruff10 said:

    Totally agree it was her first time holding a gun. We ll never know but $100 says the gun isn’t even loaded (and even if it was unloaded, it is not an excuse to point a gun at anyone.)
    Totally. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2020
    OnWis97 said:
    Those two people could have killed every one of those protesters and been acquitted.  So it ended well.
    Still, the next time a group of “protesters” enter a private gated community, the residents shouldn’t have their finger on the trigger like that. Never put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot. 
    You shouldn’t even point the gun unless you’re ready to shoot, but I’m thinking she WAS ready to shoot.  And if it was private property, and she told them to leave, then Onwise97 is right, she probably would be acquitted for defending her property (Same as store owners), but that probably depends on specific state statutes.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Those two people could have killed every one of those protesters and been acquitted.  So it ended well.
    Still, the next time a group of “protesters” enter a private gated community, the residents shouldn’t have their finger on the trigger like that. Never put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot. 
    You shouldn’t even point the gun unless you’re ready to shoot, but I’m thinking she WAS ready to shoot.  And if it was private property, and she told them to leave, then Onwise97 is right, she probably would be acquitted for defending her property (Same as store owners), but that probably depends on specific state statutes.
    I'm not so sure because this post suggests that there's a difference between defending your overall property, versus defending your dwelling in Missouri. 


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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2020
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Those two people could have killed every one of those protesters and been acquitted.  So it ended well.
    Still, the next time a group of “protesters” enter a private gated community, the residents shouldn’t have their finger on the trigger like that. Never put your finger on the trigger unless you’re ready to shoot. 
    You shouldn’t even point the gun unless you’re ready to shoot, but I’m thinking she WAS ready to shoot.  And if it was private property, and she told them to leave, then Onwise97 is right, she probably would be acquitted for defending her property (Same as store owners), but that probably depends on specific state statutes.
    I'm not so sure because this post suggests that there's a difference between defending your overall property, versus defending your dwelling in Missouri. 


    There you have it.  Although, I’m sure their defense would be that they were defending their lives, not their property.
    Edit: And that is what their defense is:

    "This is all private property. There are no public sidewalks or public streets. We were told that we would be killed, our home burned and our dog killed. We were all alone facing an angry mob," McCloskey told News 4.


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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    I don't blame them a bit..may not have pointed it at anybody though..


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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,752
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    edited June 2020
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/

    Crazy.  Obviously no charges will be filed.  She went on his property and tried to steal something.  In America (at least depending on state), that's his right.  And she should not do that, but why doesn't crap like this happen in other countries?  Do people not run into front yards and take signs in other countries?  Do people in other countries not feel that it's worth killing someone over?  Speaking for myself, if someone did that to me, I couldn't shoot them (even if I owned a gun).  Of course, mine would not be a nazi flag; it would be something like BLM.  But the principal is the same. While she doesn't have the right to do that, it's amazing to me that some people are just looking for an excuse...

    I could not live with taking a life (which is a very possible outcome of shooting at someone multiple times) because of what essentially amounts to a politically motivated prank (or, I guess, petty theft).
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    edited June 2020
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/
    I understand being angry with someone flying a Nazi flag and wanting to do something about it, but how dumb can you be? Anyone willing to display a Nazi flag is obviously fucking crazy. That's the last type of person who's yard I'd be running up on. 

    OnWis97 said:
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/

    Crazy.  Obviously no charges will be filed.  She went on his property and tried to steal something.  In America (at least depending on state), that's his right.  And she should not do that, but why doesn't crap like this happen in other countries?  Do people not run into front yards and take signs in other countries?  Do people in other countries not feel that it's worth killing someone over?  Speaking for myself, if someone did that to me, I couldn't shoot them (even if I owned a gun).  Of course, mine would not be a nazi flag; it would be something like BLM.  But the principal is the same. While she doesn't have the right to do that, it's amazing to me that some people are just looking for an excuse...

    I could not live with taking a life (which is a very possible outcome of shooting at someone multiple times) because of what essentially amounts to a politically motivated prank (or, I guess, petty theft).
    The article says he "is in the Garfield County Detention Center on charges of shooting with the intent to kill and assault and battery with a deadly weapon."

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2020
    OnWis97 said:
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/

    Crazy.  Obviously no charges will be filed.  She went on his property and tried to steal something.  In America (at least depending on state), that's his right.  And she should not do that, but why doesn't crap like this happen in other countries?  Do people not run into front yards and take signs in other countries?  Do people in other countries not feel that it's worth killing someone over?  Speaking for myself, if someone did that to me, I couldn't shoot them (even if I owned a gun).  Of course, mine would not be a nazi flag; it would be something like BLM.  But the principal is the same. While she doesn't have the right to do that, it's amazing to me that some people are just looking for an excuse...

    I could not live with taking a life (which is a very possible outcome of shooting at someone multiple times) because of what essentially amounts to a politically motivated prank (or, I guess, petty theft).
    I can see charges being brought up against the dumbass here.  I read that she dropped the flag and was running away, but he kept on shooting.  Going to be hard for him to prove that he was stopping a crime from happening.  Him daring her to come over will not help his case either.  Sounds like he needs to be put away.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/
    I understand being angry with someone flying a Nazi flag and wanting to do something about it, but how dumb can you be? Anyone willing to display a Nazi flag is obviously fucking crazy. That's the last type of person who's yard I'd be running up on. 

    OnWis97 said:
    murica.....

    Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard. https://fox4kc.com/news/woman-shot-multiple-times-while-trying-to-steal-nazi-flag-from-oklahoma-mans-yard/

    Crazy.  Obviously no charges will be filed.  She went on his property and tried to steal something.  In America (at least depending on state), that's his right.  And she should not do that, but why doesn't crap like this happen in other countries?  Do people not run into front yards and take signs in other countries?  Do people in other countries not feel that it's worth killing someone over?  Speaking for myself, if someone did that to me, I couldn't shoot them (even if I owned a gun).  Of course, mine would not be a nazi flag; it would be something like BLM.  But the principal is the same. While she doesn't have the right to do that, it's amazing to me that some people are just looking for an excuse...

    I could not live with taking a life (which is a very possible outcome of shooting at someone multiple times) because of what essentially amounts to a politically motivated prank (or, I guess, petty theft).
    The article says he "is in the Garfield County Detention Center on charges of shooting with the intent to kill and assault and battery with a deadly weapon."


    Didn't read closely...
    ...I can't imagine any conviction.  She went in his yard and grabbed something.  Assuming she's white, that changes the game a bit, I suppose.
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