America's Gun Violence

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
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    oftenreading said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Exactly fuck the kids or the church goers or concert goers or waffle eating mother ef’rs ..
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  • dignin
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    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,310
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    What's taking so long? She provided video taped evidence of her "crime." No charges filed yet? No local or state charges? Just federal charges? Again, what's taking so long? Seems a grand jury should be able to indict based on the video, right?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    Because thats how he got caught, manufacturing untraceable firearms? And jeeze, its so much easier walking into a gun shop and buying multiple firearms in a half an hour rather than setting up a mini-manufacturing plant in your basement and producing product to supply demand. If that were the case, gun shops would be out of business, yes?.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    edited May 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    Honestly, "being investigated" when there was a video shared with the world doesn't make sense. I know you like to compare this to the Mueller investigation, but if video of Trump, hookers and Putin discussing election plans was made public, I don't think it'd be months before anything criminally was pushed forward. Charges would be filed and court dates already set. You're about the only one who still gives a duck about Mallard.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    What's taking so long? She provided video taped evidence of her "crime." No charges filed yet? No local or state charges? Just federal charges? Again, what's taking so long? Seems a grand jury should be able to indict based on the video, right?
    IDK, maybe she was in one of Trumps Ptapes and it is holding things up.  Why don’t you call the ATF and ask what is taking so long.  Funny that you guys are okay with people being irresponsible with firearms when it is one of your own...partisan hacks...I was under the impression that you wanted to hold politicians to a higher standard when it comes to following the law...guess I was wrong.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    What's taking so long? She provided video taped evidence of her "crime." No charges filed yet? No local or state charges? Just federal charges? Again, what's taking so long? Seems a grand jury should be able to indict based on the video, right?
    IDK, maybe she was in one of Trumps Ptapes and it is holding things up.  Why don’t you call the ATF and ask what is taking so long.  Funny that you guys are okay with people being irresponsible with firearms when it is one of your own...partisan hacks...
    You sure do care a lot about her unlawfully destroying a firearm. If only you cared that much about people getting killed by firearms.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,072
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ This guy is clearly not a responsible gun owner. He’s a moron. 

    He was a “responsible” gun owner until he wasn’t.
    Says who? He may have always been irresponsible. I get what you’re saying, but my point is that such a thing (“responsible”) does exist. Clearly not from this clown. 
    The NRA and pro gun crowd would have you believe that every gun begins as a legal firearm and every legal gun buyer starts out as a “responsible” gun owner. I’m arguing that they’re “responsible” until they’re not. Thus, no recurring licensing or requirements to exhibit that you continue to “responsible” with a firearm after purchase.
    I would disagree with that. Most, but probably not all guns start legally. What I disagree with more is there’s definitely a lot of people legally buying guns who shouldn’t. I’ve seen plenty of irresponsible gun owners myself who probably should have never been allowed to buy a gun. 
    I don’t have stats in front of me, but I’ve seen it posted several times that majority of gun owners are for gun control. My point is most gun owners don’t want those irresponsible people having guns just as much as you don’t.

    Then, if that’s the case, why aren’t the vast majority of “responsible” gun owners pressuring the NRA and their elected officials to pass “responsible” gun control legislation that addresses some of those issues? Silence = complicity.

    Is there a vast network of illegal gun manufacturers supplying the majority of guns in America? 
    Serious question. WHat are you doing to pressure them?
    Gun control is typically not a top priority when electing officials. So other than who we vote for, how are you pushing for change? 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    Honestly, "being investigated" when there was a video shared with the world doesn't make sense. I know you like to compare this to the Mueller investigation, but if video of Trump, hookers and Putin discussing election plans was made public, I don't think it'd be months before anything criminally was pushed forward. Charges would be filed and court dates already set. You're about the only one who still gives a duck about Mallard.
    The only one “here” that cares.  Most people here do not care when a democrat does something illegal.  I promise you, though, there are still a ton of people that care about her illegal actions, and are taking note of the precedent if she does not get charged. “Duck”, “Mallard”, lol. Good choice of words :)
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    Degeneratefk said:
    bbiggs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ This guy is clearly not a responsible gun owner. He’s a moron. 

    He was a “responsible” gun owner until he wasn’t.
    Says who? He may have always been irresponsible. I get what you’re saying, but my point is that such a thing (“responsible”) does exist. Clearly not from this clown. 
    Of course responsible gun owners exist. Most of them are responsible,  until they're not
    A gun owner that is responsible, but suddenly becomes irresponsible, never should have owned a gun in the first place. It starts with vetting out who is allowed to buy guns. 
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    What's taking so long? She provided video taped evidence of her "crime." No charges filed yet? No local or state charges? Just federal charges? Again, what's taking so long? Seems a grand jury should be able to indict based on the video, right?
    IDK, maybe she was in one of Trumps Ptapes and it is holding things up.  Why don’t you call the ATF and ask what is taking so long.  Funny that you guys are okay with people being irresponsible with firearms when it is one of your own...partisan hacks...I was under the impression that you wanted to hold politicians to a higher standard when it comes to following the law...guess I was wrong.

    lol

    Maybe because destroying a weapon isn't 'irresponsible with firearms' to anyone equipped with a remote level of common sense.

    Destroying a weapon is seen as irresponsible only to those entrusted with the preservation of weapons (or pseudo gods if you will).

    The 'one of your own' comment is curious. Has it actually come to that?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    Honestly, "being investigated" when there was a video shared with the world doesn't make sense. I know you like to compare this to the Mueller investigation, but if video of Trump, hookers and Putin discussing election plans was made public, I don't think it'd be months before anything criminally was pushed forward. Charges would be filed and court dates already set. You're about the only one who still gives a duck about Mallard.
    The only one “here” that cares.  Most people here do not care when a democrat does something illegal.  I promise you, though, there are still a ton of people that care about her illegal actions, and are taking note of the precedent if she does not get charged. “Duck”, “Mallard”, lol. Good choice of words :)
    The argument of the pro gun side in a nutshell. They would rather see someone who is removing guns in jail than someone who kills with them. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    What's taking so long? She provided video taped evidence of her "crime." No charges filed yet? No local or state charges? Just federal charges? Again, what's taking so long? Seems a grand jury should be able to indict based on the video, right?
    IDK, maybe she was in one of Trumps Ptapes and it is holding things up.  Why don’t you call the ATF and ask what is taking so long.  Funny that you guys are okay with people being irresponsible with firearms when it is one of your own...partisan hacks...I was under the impression that you wanted to hold politicians to a higher standard when it comes to following the law...guess I was wrong.

    lol

    Maybe because destroying a weapon isn't 'irresponsible with firearms' to anyone equipped with a remote level of common sense.

    Destroying a weapon is seen as irresponsible only to those entrusted with the preservation of weapons (or pseudo gods if you will).

    The 'one of your own' comment is curious. Has it actually come to that?
    Um, where in the video did she destroy the weapon?  That’s pretty much the basis of the investigation, she did not destroy it in the video, but turned it into an illegal firearm instead...Catch up del.
    The laws should not discriminate, right?  If any “normal” citizen created an SBR (short barreled rifle) on video, they would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law...regardless of what they intended to do with it afterwards.  Unless Mallard sets precedent, that is.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    Honestly, "being investigated" when there was a video shared with the world doesn't make sense. I know you like to compare this to the Mueller investigation, but if video of Trump, hookers and Putin discussing election plans was made public, I don't think it'd be months before anything criminally was pushed forward. Charges would be filed and court dates already set. You're about the only one who still gives a duck about Mallard.
    The only one “here” that cares.  Most people here do not care when a democrat does something illegal.  I promise you, though, there are still a ton of people that care about her illegal actions, and are taking note of the precedent if she does not get charged. “Duck”, “Mallard”, lol. Good choice of words :)
    The argument of the pro gun side in a nutshell. They would rather see someone who is removing guns in jail than someone who kills with them. 
    Nope, I would rather see someone that breaks gun laws in jail...would you not?  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    edited May 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    Honestly, "being investigated" when there was a video shared with the world doesn't make sense. I know you like to compare this to the Mueller investigation, but if video of Trump, hookers and Putin discussing election plans was made public, I don't think it'd be months before anything criminally was pushed forward. Charges would be filed and court dates already set. You're about the only one who still gives a duck about Mallard.
    The only one “here” that cares.  Most people here do not care when a democrat does something illegal.  I promise you, though, there are still a ton of people that care about her illegal actions, and are taking note of the precedent if she does not get charged.
    I'll speak for myself, but I'll wager that I'm not alone when I say that I don't care what party she or anyone else is affiliated with if they are destroying a gun. Everyone knows what the intent was and if she gets charged, who fucking cares? How often do negligent gun owners get charged when their gun is used to kill others because it wasn't secured or handled improperly? Oh, we can't charge a grieving parent because their kid died due to their stupidity! No one was hurt in the Mallard situation. The gun wasn't being used, there isn't now a national crisis about the proper disposal of firearms. What there is a national crisis about is gun violence. It's beyond ridiculous that you and these "ton" of people are concerned about this issue so much. Maybe get your priorities straight. I haven't heard you bring up any of those negligent deaths and talk about how tons of people are watching to see what happens in those cases.

    The only partisan hack here is you. You care more about what party or stance someone has so you can try to make some point for your more guns mentality. The rest of us are more concerned about the damn guns and idiots who kill or misuse them.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    What's taking so long? She provided video taped evidence of her "crime." No charges filed yet? No local or state charges? Just federal charges? Again, what's taking so long? Seems a grand jury should be able to indict based on the video, right?
    IDK, maybe she was in one of Trumps Ptapes and it is holding things up.  Why don’t you call the ATF and ask what is taking so long.  Funny that you guys are okay with people being irresponsible with firearms when it is one of your own...partisan hacks...I was under the impression that you wanted to hold politicians to a higher standard when it comes to following the law...guess I was wrong.

    lol

    Maybe because destroying a weapon isn't 'irresponsible with firearms' to anyone equipped with a remote level of common sense.

    Destroying a weapon is seen as irresponsible only to those entrusted with the preservation of weapons (or pseudo gods if you will).

    The 'one of your own' comment is curious. Has it actually come to that?
    Um, where in the video did she destroy the weapon?  That’s pretty much the basis of the investigation, she did not destroy it in the video, but turned it into an illegal firearm instead...Catch up del.
    The laws should not discriminate, right?

    That video showed her destroying the weapon to the point where it was considered illegal; however, is that the condition of the rifle now? I was under the impression the 'destruction' phase was only partially completed and the gun is now rendered useless.
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    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    Honestly, "being investigated" when there was a video shared with the world doesn't make sense. I know you like to compare this to the Mueller investigation, but if video of Trump, hookers and Putin discussing election plans was made public, I don't think it'd be months before anything criminally was pushed forward. Charges would be filed and court dates already set. You're about the only one who still gives a duck about Mallard.
    The only one “here” that cares.  Most people here do not care when a democrat does something illegal.  I promise you, though, there are still a ton of people that care about her illegal actions, and are taking note of the precedent if she does not get charged.
    I'll speak for myself, but I'll wager that I'm not alone when I say that I don't care what party she or anyone else is affiliated with if they are destroying a gun. Everyone knows what the intent was and if she gets charged, who fucking cares? How often do negligent gun owners get charged when their gun is used to kill others because it wasn't secured or handled improperly? Oh, we can't charge a grieving parent because their kid died due to their stupidity! No one was hurt in the Mallard situation. The gun wasn't being used, there isn't now a national crisis about the proper disposal of firearms. What there is a national crisis about is gun violence. It's beyond ridiculous that you and these "ton" of people are concerned about this issue so much. Maybe get your priorities straight. I haven't heard you bring up any of those negligent deaths and talk about how tons of people are watching to see what happens in those cases.

    The only partisan hack here is you. You care more about what party or stance someone has so you can try to make some point for your more guns mentality. The rest of us are more concerned about the damn guns and idiots who kill or misuse them.
    I want the laws on the books enforced...The law that she broke says nothing about “intent”, and the ATF has actually set strict guidelines for how to legally destroy a weapon.  She broke the law when she did not follow those guidelines...plain and simple.  You are a partisan hack that does not care about upholding gun laws.
    It concerns me that someone wanting to be in a place of power to create gun laws cannot even follow the simplest of them.  Again, it’s all about the precedent being set.  What’s to stop someone with ill intent making the same video showing others how to manufacture illegal SBRs if the precedent has been set.  She is a great example of what not to do at the very least.  It humors me to no end that you partican hacks defend her breaking the law.  Have you googled “Karen Mallard investigation”?  

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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Just another good guy with guns exercising  his 2A rights.....


    I’m sure if we had more laws, that would have stopped him.

    Less guns might have though.
    Or enforceable and verifiable limitations on the number of firearms he could purchase in a given time frame but we all know “responsible” straw purchasers don’t exist.
    A law abiding citizen like himself would surely not resort to buying a template and creating his own to meet his clientele’s demand.  And then, they would truly be untraceable.  Maybe he can get assistance from Karen Mallard.
    She in jail yet? If not, maybe you should volunteer to lead the investigation so we can have justice! I hate to think about how she may be prowling the streets, looking for more victims. Nobody is safe.
    Lol, right on que!  Being investigated by the ATF last I heard.  Are you her cheerleader or what?

    What's taking so long? She provided video taped evidence of her "crime." No charges filed yet? No local or state charges? Just federal charges? Again, what's taking so long? Seems a grand jury should be able to indict based on the video, right?
    IDK, maybe she was in one of Trumps Ptapes and it is holding things up.  Why don’t you call the ATF and ask what is taking so long.  Funny that you guys are okay with people being irresponsible with firearms when it is one of your own...partisan hacks...I was under the impression that you wanted to hold politicians to a higher standard when it comes to following the law...guess I was wrong.

    lol

    Maybe because destroying a weapon isn't 'irresponsible with firearms' to anyone equipped with a remote level of common sense.

    Destroying a weapon is seen as irresponsible only to those entrusted with the preservation of weapons (or pseudo gods if you will).

    The 'one of your own' comment is curious. Has it actually come to that?
    Um, where in the video did she destroy the weapon?  That’s pretty much the basis of the investigation, she did not destroy it in the video, but turned it into an illegal firearm instead...Catch up del.
    The laws should not discriminate, right?

    That video showed her destroying the weapon to the point where it was considered illegal; however, is that the condition of the rifle now? I was under the impression the 'destruction' phase was only partially completed and the gun is now rendered useless.
    The video showed her creating an illegal SBR...not destroying anything.  The gun was still operable at the end of the video.  What she did with it afterwards is redundant as far as the legality of it.  There is probably good reason behind it being written that way to keep people from saying “but I was going to destroy it later”...But if that is the precedent you guys want set, I’m pretty sure that truly bad people will not mind at all.
    Will she get charged?  Doubtful, but it most definitely sets precedent if she does not.
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