America's Gun Violence
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Was domestic abuse higher then? I honestly have no clue.rgambs said:
A huge percentage of that generation blew off steam by beating on their wives and kids, and they avoided the steam-buildup in the first place by ignoring their wives and kids altogether.mcgruff10 said:Seriously what happened to america? my dad tells me stories of walking into hardware shops in the 50's and 60s and seeing hundreds of military ww2 surplus weapons for sale for literally less than $20 a pop with zero background check. "you over 18? yeah. cool, enjoy this (insert military surplus rifle from ww2)." I mean these weapons were apart of the most destructive war in history and there wasn't any of the mass shootings that we see today. and yes some of those were semi-automatic with high capacity mags. what the heck happened to america?
Not worse for sure, maybe better.
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All solid points, I never looked at it that way. I think you are definitely on to something. The only "tactical" thing I own is a flashlight; you shine that in someones eyes and they are blind!Halifax2TheMax said:
Did Vegas have gun shows back then? Was gun ownership promoted? No, it was like religion, nobody’s fucking business. Now? You need it and if you don’t have it you’ll perish and your weak. For Christ sake the dog whistle of being “tactical” is sold with sunglasses, with camoed white people in the desert needing to be “tactical” so they can “see” the enemy. For fucking sunglasses. And that’s on straight cable, basic plan. I can’t begin to imagine watching Faux and friends and “the dark web,” like Unsung. And you wonder what’s changed?mcgruff10 said:
They definitely bought them bud. Hardware stores, sears catalogues, you name it. My uncle had a grease gun from ww2 and a freaking bazooka lol and didn't blowup shit. seriously, what happened?Halifax2TheMax said:
The NRA sold everyone on the concept of fear. Back then, nobody bought them. Everyone used to leave their back door unlocked, remember? Now? Everyone is a threat. Just ask Unsung.mcgruff10 said:Seriously what happened to america? my dad tells me stories of walking into hardware shops in the 50's and 60s and seeing hundreds of military ww2 surplus weapons for sale for literally less than $20 a pop with zero background check. "you over 18? yeah. cool, enjoy this (insert military surplus rifle from ww2)." I mean these weapons were apart of the most destructive war in history and there wasn't any of the mass shootings that we see today. and yes some of those were semi-automatic with high capacity mags. what the heck happened to america?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I just got back from a couple of weeks in the U.S yesterday and I can honestly say, it was on my mind the entire time that I was there, someone could walk into this place and open fire. I'm so relieved that I live in a country where there's not a very high level of gun violence or ownership.Dublin 2006
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Were you hanging out in flint, Michigan and Compton?ConorKavanagh said:I just got back from a couple of weeks in the U.S yesterday and I can honestly say, it was on my mind the entire time that I was there, someone could walk into this place and open fire. I'm so relieved that I live in a country where there's not a very high level of gun violence or ownership.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
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good for those kids!PJPOWER said:
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Yep, I totally support children using the 1st amendment to stand up for the 2nd.mcgruff10 said:
good for those kids!PJPOWER said:
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
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Not me, I bet at least one of them didn't know what they were demonstrating for, ergo none of them did. In fact, I'm calling the superintendent later today, on Easter, to lay into him (it better be a "him", not one of the infinite number of "genders").PJPOWER said:
Yep, I totally support children using the 1st amendment to stand up for the 2nd.mcgruff10 said:
good for those kids!PJPOWER said:
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/0 -
Lol, I’m sure you will get the respect that a person of apposing opinions always getsmrussel1 said:
Not me, I bet at least one of them didn't know what they were demonstrating for, ergo none of them did. In fact, I'm calling the superintendent later today, on Easter, to lay into him (it better be a "him", not one of the infinite number of "genders").PJPOWER said:
Yep, I totally support children using the 1st amendment to stand up for the 2nd.mcgruff10 said:
good for those kids!PJPOWER said:
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
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These are excellent pointsHalifax2TheMax said:
Did Vegas have gun shows back then? Was gun ownership promoted? No, it was like religion, nobody’s fucking business. Now? You need it and if you don’t have it you’ll perish and your weak. For Christ sake the dog whistle of being “tactical” is sold with sunglasses, with camoed white people in the desert needing to be “tactical” so they can “see” the enemy. For fucking sunglasses. And that’s on straight cable, basic plan. I can’t begin to imagine watching Faux and friends and “the dark web,” like Unsung. And you wonder what’s changed?mcgruff10 said:
They definitely bought them bud. Hardware stores, sears catalogues, you name it. My uncle had a grease gun from ww2 and a freaking bazooka lol and didn't blowup shit. seriously, what happened?Halifax2TheMax said:
The NRA sold everyone on the concept of fear. Back then, nobody bought them. Everyone used to leave their back door unlocked, remember? Now? Everyone is a threat. Just ask Unsung.mcgruff10 said:Seriously what happened to america? my dad tells me stories of walking into hardware shops in the 50's and 60s and seeing hundreds of military ww2 surplus weapons for sale for literally less than $20 a pop with zero background check. "you over 18? yeah. cool, enjoy this (insert military surplus rifle from ww2)." I mean these weapons were apart of the most destructive war in history and there wasn't any of the mass shootings that we see today. and yes some of those were semi-automatic with high capacity mags. what the heck happened to america?0 -
I think these are also excellent pointsThirty Bills Unpaid said:To gun violence...
I feel that the psychological concept of 'relative deprivation' has something to do with the senseless slaughters in the USA.
It's a by-product of the capitalistic society coupled with the consumer driven mentality. When some guy finally figures out that he's been left out in the rain- no friends, no great future, no girls, no sweet materialistic objects that tend to define someone- they lash out and express their frustration/rage.
It's not the simple answer to the complex problem that plagues the States, but it is part of the answer. The USA (in my mind) is beginning to resemble the perfect storm: among many things... a growing divide, disenfranchised people, a massive wealth disparity, and very accessible weapons.
Eesh.
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No sarcasm intended, bud.PJPOWER said:
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
Good for those children exercising their 1A rights. I don't agree with them, but they are exercising their rights peacefully without ill intent or fearmongering toward their peers.
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Their heart looks like a butt.HesCalledDyer said:
No sarcasm intended, bud.PJPOWER said:
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
Good for those children exercising their 1A rights. I don't agree with them, but they are exercising their rights peacefully without ill intent or fearmongering toward their peers.
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Isn't this when someone from the 2nd amendment side points out the irony of the girl wearing the Selena shirt during the protest and some smear campaign is started at infolies and the gateway pungent? I remember the recent smearing of the other side for their shirt selection. Selective concern once again.dankind said:
Their heart looks like a butt.HesCalledDyer said:
No sarcasm intended, bud.PJPOWER said:
Stop being sarcastic...HesCalledDyer said:
All those poor turtles I jumped on when I was a kid. Damn video games!PJPOWER said:
Could have learned that from any number of video games.RiotZact said:
The kids at the school I’m student teaching at are OBSESSED with guns. They point their fingers at each other and “shoot” all the time, even though it’s strictly against the rules. They draw them on their papers when they are supposed to be working on stuff. It’s crazy. These are six year olds. Some of them even know the names and models of different guns.brianlux said:I was so heartened to see a photo of someone very close to me in one of Saturday's marches carrying a sign that said "Books not guns" (a rather private person or I would post the photo). Kids reading more books are going to be less apt to go shoot someone. More books for kids!
I stand behind the children!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/florida-high-school-students-walk-out-guns-second-amendment/475486002/
Good for those children exercising their 1A rights. I don't agree with them, but they are exercising their rights peacefully without ill intent or fearmongering toward their peers.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Anyone here think the “responsible” gun owner will do any jail time? Or just another “tragedy?” Hope and prayers.
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Has anyone on here ever argued that negligence by parents that results in a kid getting their hands on a gun not be met with prosecution?
I haven't seen that. Those parents, or parent if single, should absolutely face charges.
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But they rarely do. If they did, there'd be a whole bunch more "responsible" gun owners in prison. Ususally, its, "they've suffered enough." Thank the NRA.dudeman said:Has anyone on here ever argued that negligence by parents that results in a kid getting their hands on a gun not be met with prosecution?
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Safe storage laws are few and far between. Can’t enforce what’s not on the books.dudeman said:This is where "enforce existing laws" comes in.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That was a big topic for a concealed weapons class in Florida in that you MUST keep your firearm(s) secured or result in prosecution.dudeman said:Has anyone on here ever argued that negligence by parents that results in a kid getting their hands on a gun not be met with prosecution?
I haven't seen that. Those parents, or parent if single, should absolutely face charges.
I agree with that you never see charges brought forth on this if it does happen.0
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