America's Gun Violence

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,987
    Chuck Dukowski, former bass player for Black Flag once made a sarcastic comment that was noted by Henry Rollins in one of his books.  The comment went something like, "We should just give guns to everyone and see who winds up standing."  It's almost as though some people didn't get the irony, took old Chuck at face value, and have gone berserk. 

    The other thing (quite obviously) that all of this illustrates is how completely off the scale madness has run amuck in America.  Compare the America of today to what it was like 50 years ago and then project the trajectory of where we are going ahead another 50 years.   I know this will sound selfish but, thank god I will be dead by then.  But my extended family kids may not be and that is fucked.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    brianlux said:
    Chuck Dukowski, former bass player for Black Flag once made a sarcastic comment that was noted by Henry Rollins in one of his books.  The comment went something like, "We should just give guns to everyone and see who winds up standing."  It's almost as though some people didn't get the irony, took old Chuck at face value, and have gone berserk. 

    The other thing (quite obviously) that all of this illustrates is how completely off the scale madness has run amuck in America.  Compare the America of today to what it was like 50 years ago and then project the trajectory of where we are going ahead another 50 years.   I know this will sound selfish but, thank god I will be dead by then.  But my extended family kids may not be and that is fucked.
    Insanity.
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  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    Nine killed in Ohio shooting and 16 wounded in latest mass shooting
    https://jrnl.ie/4752545

    What is going on over there?
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,784
    Time for more trump hearts and thoughts. 
    Just disgraceful 
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  • RenfieldRenfield Posts: 1,054
    Moonpig said:
    Nine killed in Ohio shooting and 16 wounded in latest mass shooting
    https://jrnl.ie/4752545

    What is going on over there?
    What the F!! 13 hours after the El Paso shooting! Wonder if the El Paso incident gave this guy the ‘courage’ to do this?
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,784
    Trump is giving these people courage . Trump himself is responsible  by his actions or lack of. Disgraceful 
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    Its not Trump.  Its his supporters.  It always has been.
  • There are right wing nutty politicians in Europe too. 

    How many massshootings did we have the last week?
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  • Damn.

    Just, damn.

    How do we stop this?

    Those poor people.
    You wont. 

    Even people on the Pearl jam message board defends the Gun laws and fetisishes Guns. 

    That is a sign that it Will not be stopped 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    History books will not be kind.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    The world continues to laugh their asses off at our stupidity. 
    They aren’t laughing 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    Mental illness? Please. I guess Bin Laden was just mentally ill too? 


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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Sweden is looking better and better, isn't it?

    After watching coverage of both the shootings I would like to offer a hearty, heartfelt, and personal FUCK YOU! to everyone who votes for Republicans.  
    I don't give a shit if it hurts your little snowflake feelings, you own a share of this and your pathetic excuses smell like the asshole they came out of.

    I'm just fucking sick of this, it's ridiculous and pathetic and if you aren't ashamed to be an American right now, you have your head up your own ass.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    rgambs said:
    Sweden is looking better and better, isn't it?

    After watching coverage of both the shootings I would like to offer a hearty, heartfelt, and personal FUCK YOU! to everyone who votes for Republicans.  
    I don't give a shit if it hurts your little snowflake feelings, you own a share of this and your pathetic excuses smell like the asshole they came out of.

    I'm just fucking sick of this, it's ridiculous and pathetic and if you aren't ashamed to be an American right now, you have your head up your own ass.
    Guns are mostly a republican issue, true. But make sure you actually take a look at who you are voting for because some Dems take a decent amount of $ too. 

    And again - immigration disaster is a both party issue.  Donald trump and the republicans certainly own upping the game and causing the conflict. In the past people just talked and complained and did nothing in an effort to drum up votes. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Not the shooter. Not from that Walmart. Just a couple of random TX Walmart shoppers carrying their guns in and around the store. 
    What are supposed to think when we see shit like this?


    AMERICA! WE’RE FUCKED!


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  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    rgambs said:
    Sweden is looking better and better, isn't it?

    After watching coverage of both the shootings I would like to offer a hearty, heartfelt, and personal FUCK YOU! to everyone who votes for Republicans.  
    I don't give a shit if it hurts your little snowflake feelings, you own a share of this and your pathetic excuses smell like the asshole they came out of.

    I'm just fucking sick of this, it's ridiculous and pathetic and if you aren't ashamed to be an American right now, you have your head up your own ass.
    Guns are mostly a republican issue, true. But make sure you actually take a look at who you are voting for because some Dems take a decent amount of $ too. 

    And again - immigration disaster is a both party issue.  Donald trump and the republicans certainly own upping the game and causing the conflict. In the past people just talked and complained and did nothing in an effort to drum up votes. 
    Plenty of democrats with questions to answer. Blood money always has a tendency to stain ones hands.

  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    Not the shooter. Not from that Walmart. Just a couple of random TX Walmart shoppers carrying their guns in and around the store. 
    What are supposed to think when we see shit like this?


    AMERICA! WE’RE FUCKED!


    Surely I am not alone in thinking that those who feel the need to carry military grade weapons around while doing the weekly shop must themselves have some sort of mental illness?

    is a failed effort to properly diagnose and treat such illnesses resulting in what we are seeing today?
  • Damn.

    Just, damn.

    How do we stop this?

    Those poor people.
    You wont. 

    Even people on the Pearl jam message board defends the Gun laws and fetisishes Guns. 

    That is a sign that it Will not be stopped 
    As usual, you are a ray of sunshine, a sparkle of hope, and a breath of fresh air bringing a new message of peace and hope to all.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Damn.

    Just, damn.

    How do we stop this?

    Those poor people.
    You wont. 

    Even people on the Pearl jam message board defends the Gun laws and fetisishes Guns. 

    That is a sign that it Will not be stopped 
    As usual, you are a ray of sunshine, a sparkle of hope, and a breath of fresh air bringing a new message of peace and hope to all.
    He's right, you're just mad you can't refute his message so you attack him.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,480
    Yep white angry guys killing Americans in mass murders , but remember Mexicans or Muslims are to be prevented from entering the country , this is all on the Baffoon that is the president it’s on him period .,
    29 dead in less that 24 hrs but the 2A can’t be touched ..
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  • rgambs said:
    Damn.

    Just, damn.

    How do we stop this?

    Those poor people.
    You wont. 

    Even people on the Pearl jam message board defends the Gun laws and fetisishes Guns. 

    That is a sign that it Will not be stopped 
    As usual, you are a ray of sunshine, a sparkle of hope, and a breath of fresh air bringing a new message of peace and hope to all.
    He's right, you're just mad you can't refute his message so you attack him.
    Thank you for telling me what I meant.
    I would never have known, otherwise.
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,466
    Fuck guns
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,930
    Yep white angry guys killing Americans in mass murders , but remember Mexicans or Muslims are to be prevented from entering the country , this is all on the Baffoon that is the president it’s on him period .,
    29 dead in less that 24 hrs but the 2A can’t be touched ..
    You want 1,000,000 immigrants to come in to the country and I want 1,000,000 immigrants to come In the country.  The problem is you don’t care if it is legal or illegal.  Well, until we find out a way to make it legal and more efficient, the Trumps of the world will play on the fears of  people and win elections.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Moonpig said:
    Not the shooter. Not from that Walmart. Just a couple of random TX Walmart shoppers carrying their guns in and around the store. 
    What are supposed to think when we see shit like this?


    AMERICA! WE’RE FUCKED!


    Surely I am not alone in thinking that those who feel the need to carry military grade weapons around while doing the weekly shop must themselves have some sort of mental illness?

    is a failed effort to properly diagnose and treat such illnesses resulting in what we are seeing today?
    For better AND worse, "privileged yet bitter white man insecure in his masculinity" isn't classified as a mental illness.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rgambs said:
    Sweden is looking better and better, isn't it?

    After watching coverage of both the shootings I would like to offer a hearty, heartfelt, and personal FUCK YOU! to everyone who votes for Republicans.  
    I don't give a shit if it hurts your little snowflake feelings, you own a share of this and your pathetic excuses smell like the asshole they came out of.

    I'm just fucking sick of this, it's ridiculous and pathetic and if you aren't ashamed to be an American right now, you have your head up your own ass.
    Guns are mostly a republican issue, true. But make sure you actually take a look at who you are voting for because some Dems take a decent amount of $ too. 

    And again - immigration disaster is a both party issue.  Donald trump and the republicans certainly own upping the game and causing the conflict. In the past people just talked and complained and did nothing in an effort to drum up votes. 
    So.... Both sides are bad?  

    No... That's horse shit and you know it

    One side is obviously stoking hatred racism terrorism misogyny.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    rgambs said:
    Damn.

    Just, damn.

    How do we stop this?

    Those poor people.
    You wont. 

    Even people on the Pearl jam message board defends the Gun laws and fetisishes Guns. 

    That is a sign that it Will not be stopped 
    As usual, you are a ray of sunshine, a sparkle of hope, and a breath of fresh air bringing a new message of peace and hope to all.
    He's right, you're just mad you can't refute his message so you attack him.
    No he’s just a jerk. Just cause he’s right from time to time doesn’t change that.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    edited August 2019
    double post
    Post edited by cincybearcat on
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    firearms make the weak feel strong.  don't be weak.
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