America's Gun Violence

Cliffy6745

Mass shootings...as American as apple pie and baseball.

callen

Guns God and USA.

Rights mutha fkers. I have rights.

ldent42

I wish I had the right to go to class without worrying I'll get shot.

PJ_Soul

10 dead, 20+ wounded is the most recent update in Oregon (the college was a so-called gun free zone, which I'm sure gun nuts will be happy about). These college/university shootings really get to me personally, since I work at a university, and there is always a concern that some student on the edge is going to snap, because there are plenty of students on the edge at any given time (not that I know if the shooter in Oregon is a student himself).

g under p

PJ_Soul said:

10 dead, 20+ wounded is the most recent update in Oregon (the college was a so-called gun free zone, which I'm sure gun nuts will be happy about). These college/university shooting really get to me personally, since I work at a university, and there is always a concern that some student on the edge is going to snap, because there are plenty of students on the edge at any given time (not that I know if the shooter in Oregon is a student himself).

I just heard about this....http://www.people.com/article/10-dead-shooting-Umpqua-Community-College

Peace

Dirtie_Frank

It is nuts, but I wonder if it has to do with the babying of kids growing up. Most kids now are not taught that the world is a tough place. They don't know how to fail or what to do when they fail. Then when it happens their world falls apart and they go off the deep end. I am not sure about the shooter I am just making a general statement. Condolences to their families, no parent should have to bury their child.

dudeman

PJ_Soul said:

10 dead, 20+ wounded is the most recent update in Oregon (the college was a so-called gun free zone, which I'm sure gun nuts will be happy about). These college/university shooting really get to me personally, since I work at a university, and there is always a concern that some student on the edge is going to snap, because there are plenty of students on the edge at any given time (not that I know if the shooter in Oregon is a student himself).

I don't think anyone is happy about school shootings, whether you are a "gun nut" or not. I belong to a couple gun forums and the school/mass shooting threads on those forums are pretty much the same as on here. Everyone agrees that it is tragic and steps should be taken to make sure it doesn't happen again.

PJ_Soul

I didn't mean they'd be happy about the shooting. Just about the fact that it was a gun-free zone. I think gun nuts are weirdos, but I don't generally think they're evil!

mickeyrat

34 people woke up this morning. 13 had no idea they would breathe their last. 20 had no idea they would need to learn how to move forward after physically healing. 1 had an agenda.

Blood payment for liberty has been paid. For today. Paid , just for today.

Jason P

There was also a shooting at a South Dakota high school, but no one died so the story will be lucky to make page 7 in tomorrow's newspaper.

PJ_Soul

Jason P said:

There was also a shooting at a South Dakota high school, but no one died so the story will be lucky to make page 7 in tomorrow's newspaper.

That seems fair. A murderous rampage where 10 are dead and many more injured definitely does seem to trump non-life-threatening gun shot wounds in a high school.

blueandwhite

PJ_Soul said:

Jason P said:

There was also a shooting at a South Dakota high school, but no one died so the story will be lucky to make page 7 in tomorrow's newspaper.

That seems fair. A murderous rampage where 10 are dead and many more injured definitely does seem to trump non-life-threatening gun shot wounds in a high school.

That's part of the problem. With these mass shootings you need to make a statement. You need to kill as many people as you can before they take you down. The media gives these individuals so much attention for their efforts. I would love it if the shooter's name was literally blacklisted by the media. Remember the victims, acknowledge the act but erase the shooter's name and identity from the spotlight. Don't give him his fifteen minutes of fame. Of course we know that this will never happen.

PJ_Soul

blueandwhite said:

PJ_Soul said:

Jason P said:

There was also a shooting at a South Dakota high school, but no one died so the story will be lucky to make page 7 in tomorrow's newspaper.

That seems fair. A murderous rampage where 10 are dead and many more injured definitely does seem to trump non-life-threatening gun shot wounds in a high school.

That's part of the problem. With these mass shootings you need to make a statement. You need to kill as many people as you can before they take you down. The media gives these individuals so much attention for their efforts. I would love it if the shooter's name was literally blacklisted by the media. Remember the victims, acknowledge the act but erase the shooter's name and identity from the spotlight. Don't give him his fifteen minutes of fame. Of course we know that this will never happen.

I think it's fairly ludicrous to expect the media to censor facts. I really hate this viewpoint (not you... I have seen this said many times before, and every time I think about how what it really says is that the media should be picking and choosing what news we get in order to create a bias towards vicitims. NO THANK YOU!!! I support an unbiased, censorship-free media, thank you very much!).

facepollution

I don't often comment on these pages, but this is the 45th school shooting in the US this year. I'm at a loss for words, I feel my compassion slowly diminishing...... how can a country as great and as advanced in so many ways be so completely in denial about such a horrendous problem?

jnimhaoileoin

facepollution said:

I don't often comment on these pages, but this is the 45th school shooting in the US this year. I'm at a loss for words, I feel my compassion slowly diminishing...... how can a country as great and as advanced in so many ways be so completely in denial about such a horrendous problem?

I ask myself that many, many times. It's incomprehensible to me and I would say to most Europeans

PJ_Soul

facepollution said:

I don't often comment on these pages, but this is the 45th school shooting in the US this year. I'm at a loss for words, I feel my compassion slowly diminishing...... how can a country as great and as advanced in so many ways be so completely in denial about such a horrendous problem?

Compassion for what?

jnimhaoileoin

PJ_Soul said:

facepollution said:

I don't often comment on these pages, but this is the 45th school shooting in the US this year. I'm at a loss for words, I feel my compassion slowly diminishing...... how can a country as great and as advanced in so many ways be so completely in denial about such a horrendous problem?

Compassion for what?

I can't really speak for others but maybe he means we're all becoming a little desensitised to it because it just keeps happening and America shows no will or desire to stop their children and young people being killed

facepollution

jnimhaoileoin said:

PJ_Soul said:

facepollution said:

I don't often comment on these pages, but this is the 45th school shooting in the US this year. I'm at a loss for words, I feel my compassion slowly diminishing...... how can a country as great and as advanced in so many ways be so completely in denial about such a horrendous problem?

Compassion for what?

I can't really speak for others but maybe he means we're all becoming a little desensitised to it because it just keeps happening and America shows no will or desire to stop their children and young people being killed

This. You would have thought Sandy Hook would have been THE one that changed things.....

Why are we still talking about school shootings 16 years after Columbine?

This situation is fucking absurd.

callen

Dirtie_Frank said:

It is nuts, but I wonder if it has to do with the babying of kids growing up. Most kids now are not taught that the world is a tough place. They don't know how to fail or what to do when they fail. Then when it happens their world falls apart and they go off the deep end. I am not sure about the shooter I am just making a general statement. Condolences to their families, no parent should have to bury their child.

Reaching. And this isn't a controllable.

blueandwhite

PJ_Soul said:

blueandwhite said:

PJ_Soul said:

Jason P said:

There was also a shooting at a South Dakota high school, but no one died so the story will be lucky to make page 7 in tomorrow's newspaper.

That seems fair. A murderous rampage where 10 are dead and many more injured definitely does seem to trump non-life-threatening gun shot wounds in a high school.

That's part of the problem. With these mass shootings you need to make a statement. You need to kill as many people as you can before they take you down. The media gives these individuals so much attention for their efforts. I would love it if the shooter's name was literally blacklisted by the media. Remember the victims, acknowledge the act but erase the shooter's name and identity from the spotlight. Don't give him his fifteen minutes of fame. Of course we know that this will never happen.

I think it's fairly ludicrous to expect the media to censor facts. I really hate this viewpoint (not you... I have seen this said many times before, and every time I think about how what it really says is that the media should be picking and choosing what news we get in order to create a bias towards vicitims. NO THANK YOU!!! I support an unbiased, censorship-free media, thank you very much!).

I don't think that the majority of today's media gives two pins about facts. It's about selling a product and the life and times of this unnamed gunman will inevitably take center stage for the next week or so. It's what sells, but it is hardly what one would describe as being meaningful information. It's just another story about another disgruntled loser with the means and opportunity to inflict excessive carnage on an unsuspecting group. It's the same old story we've heard before and will continue to hear again and again.

As for the media picking and choosing what news we get; they already do that. I think it's even scarier that people still think that unbiased media is actually a thing. It was never such a thing and it never will be.