America's Gun Violence

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    A start?

    Dick's Sporting Goods Ends Sale Of Assault-Style Rifles, Citing Florida Shooting http://n.pr/2BYERRE
    It'll be interesting to see how much shit they take for this private decision.  And fun to see people say "your (sic) taking away my second-amendment right."
    If bakers don’t have to bake cakes, sporting goods stores don’t have to sell guns and YouTube doesn’t have to host Alex Jones. About sum it up?
    That’s what freedom is all about, right?
    The market speaks. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    RYME said:
    https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/man-with-concealed-gun-kills-21-year-old-carjacker
    Here you have a 24 year old guy minding his own business going to work.
    And then this happens.  
    I think there's a lot to be learned or discussed about this.
    None of this changes the fact that sem-auto rifles like the AR-15 should be banned and mag capacity reduced for all semi-auto guns. I haven't seen much on here lately about wanting to ban all guns. Maybe from a few extremists and this only strengthens their view.

    Compromise is being sought from the gun control side and this does nothing to change what is being asked from gun owners/advocates.
    I would gladly ban all guns, in a heartbeat

    Remove the AR's all you want, although a great start, we will still have 40% of the world's guns with only 4% of the population 

    The idea of guns for protection is what has lead us to this country being littered with guns and gun related deaths... America's gun violence problem goes well beyond mass shootings and assault rifles. The numbers speak for themselves 

    I'm in the minority, and I'm fine with that. Good luck America, you're going to need it
    “Nobody wants to ban all guns”
    Man, if I had a dime for every time I have heard that phrase used.  
    One would have to be foolish in the extreme to believe that when people say that, they are saying that literally "nobody" wants to ban all guns. It's a big country; people have a range of views on every topic. When people say that they generally mean a total gun ban isn't a point of policy.

    I, too, would happily see a ban on personal gun use except within pretty strict parameters, which would include target shooting (guns typically kept locked at the range), certain types of hunting (with restrictions on which guns are available), and some remote areas where guns may be needed for protection from wildlife (certain types of camps, for instance). Luckily for me, I already live in a country with limited guns. Thank FSM for that. 
    Well, maybe people should be more clear.  Maybe say “nobody with half a brain wants to ban all guns” or something like that.  That would be a much more accurate statement :). And thank you for your vote...oh wait, you don’t have a vote.
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  • unsung
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    People should see the pictures and video of the carnage. They need to see it. If they don’t see it, god forbid, they need to experience it up close and personal. Otherwise, nothing is going to change.

    How one bullet shattered a body and a family - CNN https://apple.news/AqWddLqNoSNid-wkbmNZO6g
    Would you do the same for abortions?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    unsung said:
    People should see the pictures and video of the carnage. They need to see it. If they don’t see it, god forbid, they need to experience it up close and personal. Otherwise, nothing is going to change.

    How one bullet shattered a body and a family - CNN https://apple.news/AqWddLqNoSNid-wkbmNZO6g
    Would you do the same for abortions?
    And the death penalty,  since we are connecting disparate things. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I think that part of the problem is the desensitization...in a lot of areas.  I’m not sure showing violence and bloodshed will do anything except desensitize even further.  The brain works in interesting ways and there have been several psychological studies showing how regularly seeing violence, gore, porn, etc can make a person desensitized to those things and sometimes even become addicted to and desire them or even want to participate in them.  I think that we have definitely become a desensitized/addicted society...not a good place to be.  Ask the Romans how that went down...
  • rgambs
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    unsung said:
    People should see the pictures and video of the carnage. They need to see it. If they don’t see it, god forbid, they need to experience it up close and personal. Otherwise, nothing is going to change.

    How one bullet shattered a body and a family - CNN https://apple.news/AqWddLqNoSNid-wkbmNZO6g
    Would you do the same for abortions?
    Considering the VAST majority of abortions consist of a pill followed by a heavy period...yeah, not such a scary prospect.

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  • dankind
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    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    People should see the pictures and video of the carnage. They need to see it. If they don’t see it, god forbid, they need to experience it up close and personal. Otherwise, nothing is going to change.

    How one bullet shattered a body and a family - CNN https://apple.news/AqWddLqNoSNid-wkbmNZO6g
    Would you do the same for abortions?
    Considering the VAST majority of abortions consist of a pill followed by a heavy period...yeah, not such a scary prospect.

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  • CM189191
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    unsung said:
    People should see the pictures and video of the carnage. They need to see it. If they don’t see it, god forbid, they need to experience it up close and personal. Otherwise, nothing is going to change.

    How one bullet shattered a body and a family - CNN https://apple.news/AqWddLqNoSNid-wkbmNZO6g
    Would you do the same for abortions?
    whatabout whatabout whatabout
  • josevolution
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    unsung said:
    People should see the pictures and video of the carnage. They need to see it. If they don’t see it, god forbid, they need to experience it up close and personal. Otherwise, nothing is going to change.

    How one bullet shattered a body and a family - CNN https://apple.news/AqWddLqNoSNid-wkbmNZO6g
    Would you do the same for abortions?
    That wouldnt make a difference to me as i believe that choice belongs to the women & the women only ...
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • unsung said:
    People should see the pictures and video of the carnage. They need to see it. If they don’t see it, god forbid, they need to experience it up close and personal. Otherwise, nothing is going to change.

    How one bullet shattered a body and a family - CNN https://apple.news/AqWddLqNoSNid-wkbmNZO6g
    Would you do the same for abortions?
    Its already being done. I drive by a Planned Parenthood cneter quite frequently and the antis are out there with their full blown sized pictures of purported aborted fetuses. Theres a guy who drives around with a commercial type delivery van with the photos plastered on the sides. Pulled up next to me at a light with the kids in the back seat. When they asked, I told them its what their mother and I should have  done and that that guy is crazy. Their both pro choice now by the way.
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  • unsung
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    They started that after Sandy Hook.  It isn't new, he is just virtue signaling.
  • unsung said:
    They started that after Sandy Hook.  It isn't new, he is just virtue signaling.
    Does the signal come through the tin foil?
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  • unsung
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    What a witty comeback.  How original!
  • dankind
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    edited February 2018
    The Dick's where we buy my kids' sporting equipment in Libtardaplorable© headquarters sells semiautomatic firearms.
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  • The Juggler
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    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
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  • unsung
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    edited February 2018
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***
  • unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***
    None of that $500 million is spent on abortions. Its against the law for them to do so. But the king of witty comebacks wouldn't know that, I suppose?
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  • unsung
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    edited February 2018
    I'm sure.

    How much do they spend on lobbying politicians that support it?  It is full circle.
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