America's Gun Violence

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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    CM189191 said:
    RYME said:
    unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***
    Well said unsung.
    The NRA is supported by citizens who choose to spend $35/year on memberships.
    Is that the same NRA that is being investigated for taking Russian money and won't disclose their donors?  That NRA?
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  • The Juggler
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    RYME said:
    CM189191 said:
    RYME said:
    unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***
    Well said unsung.
    The NRA is supported by citizens who choose to spend $35/year on memberships.
    Is that the same NRA that is being investigated for taking Russian money and won't disclose their donors?  That NRA?
    Keep reading the onion


    Please stop

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  • unsung
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    unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***

    A true libertarian wouldn't give two shits what some woman does with her body.

    Plain and simple: you're a fraud.

    I'm not a true libertarian.

    I also don't care what anyone does to their body.  But that body inside her body isn't hers.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,421
    Now Wal-Mart....

    Walmart says it will raise age restriction to 21 for gun purchases, remove items resembling assault-style rifles from website

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/28/walmart-says-it-will-raise-age-restriction-to-21-for-gun-purchases-remove-assault-style-weapons-from-website.html


  • unsung
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    CM189191 said:
    RYME said:
    unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***
    Well said unsung.
    The NRA is supported by citizens who choose to spend $35/year on memberships.
    Is that the same NRA that is being investigated for taking Russian money and won't disclose their donors?  That NRA?
    Why do you want tbeir donor list?  Is it so you can harass law abiding people and doxx them?
  • unsung
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    my2hands said:
    I would put in an express lane for abortions... AND take away all of your guns

    I'm you're libtard snowflake nightmare 

    Not very scary.  Work on it.
  • unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***

    A true libertarian wouldn't give two shits what some woman does with her body.

    Plain and simple: you're a fraud.

    I'm not a true libertarian.

    I also don't care what anyone does to their body.  But that body inside her body isn't hers.
    Who does it belong to then? How about those cancer tumors? Do they belong to her? Her liver or spleen?
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  • unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***

    A true libertarian wouldn't give two shits what some woman does with her body.

    Plain and simple: you're a fraud.

    I'm not a true libertarian.

    I also don't care what anyone does to their body.  But that body inside her body isn't hers.
    Wow

    Because women are just pods for globs of goo that given time will develop into a fetus?
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  • rgambs
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    I've found in my experience that libertarians oppose abortion more often then not.
    I believe it's because the dominant trait of libertarian ideology is a blanket form of anti-left fervor.
    The more the divide in this country grows, the more I see that the right stands for very little of its own ideology, and spends 99% of it's time standing against the left, or more accurately, the boogeyman they've created to represent the left. 
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  • mrussel1
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    rgambs said:
    I've found in my experience that libertarians oppose abortion more often then not.
    I believe it's because the dominant trait of libertarian ideology is a blanket form of anti-left fervor.
    The more the divide in this country grows, the more I see that the right stands for very little of its own ideology, and spends 99% of it's time standing against the left, or more accurately, the boogeyman they've created to represent the left. 
    Not Libertarians who have actually thought about the philosophy.  I'm not an expert in it but I don't see how you can be a libertarian and not be pro choice.  I know a few and they could care less if someone has an abortion or not.  They see it as one less drag on society. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Oh, please can we arm all the teachers? They never snap or put our kids at risk. Ever.

    Georgia teacher arrested after firing gunshot in school classroom - Reuters https://apple.news/AZVFnm15tSBSldcXH7VPJkw

    That didn’t take long, now did it?
    Lets not skip right over this.  I don't trust a random teacher with a firearm around my children. This is precisely why my kids will end up being home schooled if this plays out. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,245
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh, please can we arm all the teachers? They never snap or put our kids at risk. Ever.

    Georgia teacher arrested after firing gunshot in school classroom - Reuters https://apple.news/AZVFnm15tSBSldcXH7VPJkw

    That didn’t take long, now did it?
    Lets not skip right over this.  I don't trust a random teacher with a firearm around my children. This is precisely why my kids will end up being home schooled if this plays out. 
    And from the reporting, “great teacher,” “well liked.” Just another “responsible” gun owner until they’re not.
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  • Hi!
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    The exchange when Trump told Toomey he was afraid of the nra was  fun to watch. lol

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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited March 2018
    my2hands said:
    I would put in an express lane for abortions... AND take away all of your guns

    I'm you're libtard snowflake nightmare 

    60 million babies aborted in the United States since 1973 you're cool with that?
    I'd say the express lane has been open for a long time.  So don't pretend that you care about life, and children and all that jazz.
    No you don't.
    Post edited by RYME on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Might I suggest thread integrity and end the abortion talk?
  • unsung
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    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Wait a minute....the "libertarian" is also pro life? Dude, you are a walking contradiction. 
    In one breath you say that children are the future, in the next you support ending that potential before birth.

    You are holding that hypocrisy,  I will defend life.

    The NRA hasn't ended any life, the NRA is supported with zero taxpayer dollars.

    Planned Parenthood (irony there) ends life every day, and it is funded to the tune of $500M annually by taxpayers.

    I know which is a greater threat to life.

    ***it angers me that I have to defend the NRA***

    A true libertarian wouldn't give two shits what some woman does with her body.

    Plain and simple: you're a fraud.

    I'm not a true libertarian.

    I also don't care what anyone does to their body.  But that body inside her body isn't hers.
    Wow

    Because women are just pods for globs of goo that given time will develop into a fetus?
    That's a bit far fetched and dramatic, don't you think?

    Shall I rephrase...people can do what they want with their bodies as long as they aren't harming others.
  • unsung
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    mrussel1 said:
    Might I suggest thread integrity and end the abortion talk?
    I find it a bit hypocritical to be for the defense of children and also pro abortion.

    We should be for the defense of life.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    I've found in my experience that libertarians oppose abortion more often then not.
    I believe it's because the dominant trait of libertarian ideology is a blanket form of anti-left fervor.
    The more the divide in this country grows, the more I see that the right stands for very little of its own ideology, and spends 99% of it's time standing against the left, or more accurately, the boogeyman they've created to represent the left. 
    Not Libertarians who have actually thought about the philosophy.  I'm not an expert in it but I don't see how you can be a libertarian and not be pro choice.  I know a few and they could care less if someone has an abortion or not.  They see it as one less drag on society. 
    I always thought libertarians were anti-choice because they needed to be to get some support from mainstream Republicans.
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  • mrussel1
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    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Might I suggest thread integrity and end the abortion talk?
    I find it a bit hypocritical to be for the defense of children and also pro abortion.

    We should be for the defense of life.
    And the death penalty.  The Holy See is the only one that is consistent on this issue. 

    Are you saying you see zero difference between a terminated pregnancy at 14 weeks and the shooting death of a Sandy Hook kindergartener?
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