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America's Gun Violence

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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    The second amendment is curse upon this country

    A racist anachronism
    Or maybe he just liked heavy metal
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    Makes you wonder who here at the ten club has also been radacalized online.....

    Chicken or the egg?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    Makes you wonder who here at the ten club has also been radacalized online.....

    Chicken or the egg?
    And do we have an obligation to report them to the appropriate authorities?

    I can think of at least one person who's been laying low.... Are they working on their manifesto?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Makes you wonder who here at the ten club has also been radacalized online.....

    Chicken or the egg?
    And do we have an obligation to report them to the appropriate authorities?

    I can think of at least one person who's been laying low.... Are they working on their manifesto?
    Lying low? I can never conjugate that verb correctly.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    As NRA Leadership Fight Spills Into Public, N.Y. Attorney General Opens Investigation

    https://www.npr.org/2019/04/27/717808885/oliver-north-says-he-will-not-seek-a-2nd-term-as-nra-president

    NYAG has been busy lately
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    This country loves its guns...and its religion. Now that they are at odds constantly, which one will win this battle royale. Guns is a formidable opponent, but I’ve got my $ on religion.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Makes you wonder who here at the ten club has also been radacalized online.....

    Chicken or the egg?
    And do we have an obligation to report them to the appropriate authorities?

    I can think of at least one person who's been laying low.... Are they working on their manifesto?
    You ok bro?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    This country loves its guns...and its religion. Now that they are at odds constantly, which one will win this battle royale. Guns is a formidable opponent, but I’ve got my $ on religion.
    guns and religion have become inseparable

    They both need to be....constrained

    Something else needs to prevail over both.  Like common sense and science. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    CM189191 said:
    This country loves its guns...and its religion. Now that they are at odds constantly, which one will win this battle royale. Guns is a formidable opponent, but I’ve got my $ on religion.
    guns and religion have become inseparable

    They both need to be....constrained

    Something else needs to prevail over both.  Like common sense and science. 
    That ain’t happening for a while.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    This country loves its guns...and its religion. Now that they are at odds constantly, which one will win this battle royale. Guns is a formidable opponent, but I’ve got my $ on religion.
    guns and religion have become inseparable

    They both need to be....constrained

    Something else needs to prevail over both.  Like common sense and science. 
    That ain’t happening for a while.
    Well not with that kind of attitude
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    Gun supporters dream of a day they can attack their government with their paltry weapons.  They salivate over it.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    This country loves its guns...and its religion. Now that they are at odds constantly, which one will win this battle royale. Guns is a formidable opponent, but I’ve got my $ on religion.
    guns and religion have become inseparable

    They both need to be....constrained

    Something else needs to prevail over both.  Like common sense and science. 
    That ain’t happening for a while.
    Well not with that kind of attitude
    Hahahaha fair enough!
    hippiemom = goodness
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,976
    Gun supporters dream of a day they can attack their government with their paltry weapons.  They salivate over it.
    I'm pretty sure that's not true.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    dudeman said:
    Gun supporters dream of a day they can attack their government with their paltry weapons.  They salivate over it.
    I'm pretty sure that's not true.

    Haha. Probably not.  But that is why they think they need them.  Some militia is going to stop the U.S. military. 
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,976
    I don't know, man. The gun owners I know aren't that delusional. I don't think Americans should be too quick to discard any rights granted to them by citizenship, though.

    An armed population is a least a little bit of an obstacle to dictatorship, however realistic it might be to need it.

    I don't know too many people who are pleased with our current state of government/leadership. Do you trust the Trump administration to keep you and your family safe?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    mcgruff10 said:
    Why?  It had some dumb stuff in there.  Even cuomo agrees some of it needs to be changed  
    so get a gun license. you have to have a license to fish, ffs. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    dudeman said:
    Gun supporters dream of a day they can attack their government with their paltry weapons.  They salivate over it.
    I'm pretty sure that's not true.

    Haha. Probably not.  But that is why they think they need them.  Some militia is going to stop the U.S. military. 
    i doubt the majority actually believe this; they just use it as a talking point to state their case. 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    edited April 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    Why?  It had some dumb stuff in there.  Even cuomo agrees some of it needs to be changed  
    so get a gun license. you have to have a license to fish, ffs. 
    Just because you shoot doesn’t mean you want to hunt. This is another example of feel good legislation. 
    I remember going to Boy Scout camp in New York and my shooting instruction was a former drill instructor in the army who emphasized safety the entire time. I used some of those same techniques just yesterday as I taught my three ten year olds how to shoot in upstate New York. 
    Boy scout camp gives a lot of kids the chance to shoot when maybe their families don’t participate in hunting/shooting. 
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    edited April 2019
    @PJPOWER approx fifty yard range at my father in laws hunting cabin. There were a bunch of stuff we were shooting and my sons said, “hey dad, hit the cap on the seltzer bottle.”   Iron sights ruger 10/22
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    edited April 2019
    And I would like to add that the Boy Scouts safety course is a hell of a lot more thorough than a regular hunting safety course. But ya know,Democrats and all guns are evil. 
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    dudeman said:
    Gun supporters dream of a day they can attack their government with their paltry weapons.  They salivate over it.
    I'm pretty sure that's not true.

    Haha. Probably not.  But that is why they think they need them.  Some militia is going to stop the U.S. military. 
    i doubt the majority actually believe this; they just use it as a talking point to state their case. 
    I have a little too much fun making bombastic statements on here.  
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    dudeman said:
    I don't know, man. The gun owners I know aren't that delusional. I don't think Americans should be too quick to discard any rights granted to them by citizenship, though.

    An armed population is a least a little bit of an obstacle to dictatorship, however realistic it might be to need it.

    I don't know too many people who are pleased with our current state of government/leadership. Do you trust the Trump administration to keep you and your family safe?
    What I trust is my 37 years on this earth I’ve not needed a gun to keep me alive. Now, I know I may have lived in a nice, quiet neighborhood for 22 years of my life, but the last 15 have been downtown in a large city.  

    There are positives and negatives to gun ownership.  I think all of us would agree.  What we disagree on is whether the benefits outweigh the detriments.  If the studies are correct that a gun in the home is more likely to kill or hurt someone who lives in that home than an intruder, then I will side with the negatives being worse than the benefits. 

    Can we put the toothpaste bag in the dispenser?   Tough question.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:
    @PJPOWER approx fifty yard range at my father in laws hunting cabin. There were a bunch of stuff we were shooting and my sons said, “hey dad, hit the cap on the seltzer bottle.”   Iron sights ruger 10/22
    Your father in law has a hunting cabin?   Nice...lol
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    @PJPOWER approx fifty yard range at my father in laws hunting cabin. There were a bunch of stuff we were shooting and my sons said, “hey dad, hit the cap on the seltzer bottle.”   Iron sights ruger 10/22
    Your father in law has a hunting cabin?   Nice...lol
    Yea, it protects them from the bears.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    @PJPOWER approx fifty yard range at my father in laws hunting cabin. There were a bunch of stuff we were shooting and my sons said, “hey dad, hit the cap on the seltzer bottle.”   Iron sights ruger 10/22
    Your father in law has a hunting cabin?   Nice...lol
    Seven acres in upstate New York.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Sounds like just the spot for the AMT meet up... whats the address? I love upstate NY
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,547
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    @PJPOWER approx fifty yard range at my father in laws hunting cabin. There were a bunch of stuff we were shooting and my sons said, “hey dad, hit the cap on the seltzer bottle.”   Iron sights ruger 10/22
    Your father in law has a hunting cabin?   Nice...lol
    Yea, it protects them from the bears.
    Maybe he should build a wall
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    jesus. now we're insulting someone for having a hunting cabin?
    Flight Risk out NOW!

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