Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
You put your life in the hands of technology every day.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
You put your life in the hands of technology every day.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
You put your life in the hands of technology every day.
Yeah no thanks.
Do you trust the technology in your automobile or not?
Unless you tell me you don't drive, then I’ll guess you do.
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Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
You put your life in the hands of technology every day.
Yeah no thanks.
Do you trust the technology in your automobile or not?
Unless you tell me you don't drive, then I’ll guess you do.
precisely... those antilock brakes that you slam on I95 during rush hour are 80% technology. Only at the caliper does it become mechanical. And that's one example of the 200k in your vehicle, let alone the airplane you board.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
I agree. Except I’m not worried about technology failing, #3 just doesn’t interest me. And is not needed if you have the first 2.
Here’s some solutions that just might work. Not over night and not in every instance. There are always exceptions and while a zero sum would be nice, most realize it’s not achievable. However, major reductions are achievable.
Here’s some solutions that just might work. Not over night and not in every instance. There are always exceptions and while a zero sum would be nice, most realize it’s not achievable. However, major reductions are achievable.
Some very good points and data in this. It blows my mind how many people have guns that are not in a safe and loaded on top of it. Especially if kids are in the house. It also blows my mind the percentage of guns that are sold with no background check. Both of those issues need to be fixed in a major way.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
I agree. Except I’m not worried about technology failing, #3 just doesn’t interest me. And is not needed if you have the first 2.
It might have interested twenty people in a high school in Texas, even though it didn’t interest you.
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Funny, I seem to remember the faux concern about those Syrian babies being gassed and the almost immediate response of bombing empty airfields and a big show of force with our allies. But American kids? They’re like jobs, disposable, unless they’re in China.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
I agree. Except I’m not worried about technology failing, #3 just doesn’t interest me. And is not needed if you have the first 2.
It might have interested twenty people in a high school in Texas, even though it didn’t interest you.
That one didn’t interest me because it isn’t practical. You can’t implement that technology onto existing guns (well, you can, but they wouldn’t mandate it). I’ve never met a gun owner who is in favor of it, it isn’t practical for practice or training with others. And mostly, wouldn’t make a difference if the were properly locked to begin with.
What does that have to do with shootings? As far as I know Trump is. It responsible for any of them, and Hilary wouldn’t have prevented them either. Not sure how this response fits into the conversation.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
What does that have to do with shootings? As far as I know Trump is. It responsible for any of them, and Hilary wouldn’t have prevented them either. Not sure how this response fits into the conversation.
Jeesh Mace, Really? Did you look at the stats? Do they not concern you? I mean amongst the realitively rest of the civilized world? And your side, I’m safe I’m assuming your side as in Team Trump Treason supporter, thinks Team Trump Treason might actually act? You ok with the stats? Do you really think Hillary might have done anything different?
By by the way, how’s thoughts and prayers working out?
What does that have to do with shootings? As far as I know Trump is. It responsible for any of them, and Hilary wouldn’t have prevented them either. Not sure how this response fits into the conversation.
Jeesh! Because you’d rather focus on “her” emails than own up to the “responsible “ gun owners and lobby and industry, until they’re not. Nothing can be done, thoughts and prayers.
Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one? He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
What would you suggest be done about this ?
Idk, what would you suggest?
Really? You don’t know?
Nope, do you? What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old? Assault weapons ban-nope minimim age requirements-nope background checks-nope waiting periods-nope
Locked up? Yup. Stored elsewhere? Yup.
Care to elaborate? How would your fairy tale laws read?
Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
That’s right, nothing.
I don't understand your point. I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy. He touches on them as well. I'll try again: 1. Law around gun cabinets 2. Trigger locks 3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism. The technology absolutely exists.
Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
I have zero faith in number three. Technology fails at times, no way I would ever buy a gun like that. The first two are great.
I agree. Except I’m not worried about technology failing, #3 just doesn’t interest me. And is not needed if you have the first 2.
It might have interested twenty people in a high school in Texas, even though it didn’t interest you.
That one didn’t interest me because it isn’t practical. You can’t implement that technology onto existing guns (well, you can, but they wouldn’t mandate it). I’ve never met a gun owner who is in favor of it, it isn’t practical for practice or training with others. And mostly, wouldn’t make a difference if the were properly locked to begin with.
This is an attitude that makes people want to punch people like you lol Seriously though, when gun nutters start their hobby talk it's fucking disgusting. When practicality for "training" and getting your heehaws with your buddies is a higher priority than highschool kids' lives... FUCK YOUR FUCKING HOBBY!!!
Your last statement is just ignorant. You know better, you absolutely know that statement is ignorant, but damnit, your range time might be less convenient so you'd better persist!
The outrage after Parkland set off a moral reckoning and awakening—there’s a simple explanation for school shootings.
Back in 2012, Nate Silver observed: "Whether someone owns a gun is a more powerful predictor of a person’s political party than her gender, whether she identifies as gay or lesbian, whether she is Hispanic, whether she lives in the South, or a number of other demographic characteristics.”
More than 70 percent of Trump voters in 2016 described guns as “very important” to their vote, versus only 40 percent who described abortion as “very important” to their vote and only 25 percent who felt that way about gay rights. With the slow fading of battles over same-sex marriage and abortion, and the rapid collapse of other aspects of conservative ideology, guns may now rank as the single most important political dividing line in 21st century America.
The outrage after Parkland set off a moral reckoning and awakening—there’s a simple explanation for school shootings.
Back in 2012, Nate Silver observed: "Whether someone owns a gun is a more powerful predictor of a person’s political party than her gender, whether she identifies as gay or lesbian, whether she is Hispanic, whether she lives in the South, or a number of other demographic characteristics.”
More than 70 percent of Trump voters in 2016 described guns as “very important” to their vote, versus only 40 percent who described abortion as “very important” to their vote and only 25 percent who felt that way about gay rights. With the slow fading of battles over same-sex marriage and abortion, and the rapid collapse of other aspects of conservative ideology, guns may now rank as the single most important political dividing line in 21st century America.
The outrage after Parkland set off a moral reckoning and awakening—there’s a simple explanation for school shootings.
Back in 2012, Nate Silver observed: "Whether someone owns a gun is a more powerful predictor of a person’s political party than her gender, whether she identifies as gay or lesbian, whether she is Hispanic, whether she lives in the South, or a number of other demographic characteristics.”
More than 70 percent of Trump voters in 2016 described guns as “very important” to their vote, versus only 40 percent who described abortion as “very important” to their vote and only 25 percent who felt that way about gay rights. With the slow fading of battles over same-sex marriage and abortion, and the rapid collapse of other aspects of conservative ideology, guns may now rank as the single most important political dividing line in 21st century America.
Do you think media coverage of massacres emboldens would-be mass shooters?
Tragedy has struck another American high school, this time in Texas, where on Friday a gunman opened fire inside Santa Fe High School, killing nine students and one teacher.
The massacre came a little over three months after 17 people were killed at a high school in Parkland, Florida, making it the worst high school mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
The media coverage that followed the horrific attack seemed endless. From the immediate horror of the massacre, to the identification of the shooter, to the surviving students' push for tighter gun laws, it was as if it was the only news for weeks.
Many believe this kind of coverage, and especially attention on the perpetrators, gives would-be killers a reason to act. Many of the mass shooters become household names.
A 2015 study points to a copycat effect, that a mass shooting increases the likelihood of an additional mass shooting in the two-week period following the incident. And a recent study cautioned that media coverage of these attacks might lead to copycat events over a longer period of time.
An ABC News investigation in 2014 found that in the 14 years after the Columbine High School shooting in Colorado, where 13 died, at 17 school shooters, and 36 other students who threatened rampages that were averted, cited Columbine as partial motivation for the attack.
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The first two are great.
Unless you tell me you don't drive, then I’ll guess you do.
Except I’m not worried about technology failing, #3 just doesn’t interest me. And is not needed if you have the first 2.
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By by the way, how’s thoughts and prayers working out?
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Seriously though, when gun nutters start their hobby talk it's fucking disgusting.
When practicality for "training" and getting your heehaws with your buddies is a higher priority than highschool kids' lives...
FUCK YOUR FUCKING HOBBY!!!
Your last statement is just ignorant. You know better, you absolutely know that statement is ignorant, but damnit, your range time might be less convenient so you'd better persist!
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The outrage after Parkland set off a moral reckoning and awakening—there’s a simple explanation for school shootings.More than 70 percent of Trump voters in 2016 described guns as “very important” to their vote, versus only 40 percent who described abortion as “very important” to their vote and only 25 percent who felt that way about gay rights. With the slow fading of battles over same-sex marriage and abortion, and the rapid collapse of other aspects of conservative ideology, guns may now rank as the single most important political dividing line in 21st century America.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/its-the-guns/560771/
They won't admit it, but we really love it... we love a good body count.... if not, why would we let it continue?
Do you think media coverage of massacres emboldens would-be mass shooters?
Tragedy has struck another American high school, this time in Texas, where on Friday a gunman opened fire inside Santa Fe High School, killing nine students and one teacher.
The massacre came a little over three months after 17 people were killed at a high school in Parkland, Florida, making it the worst high school mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
The media coverage that followed the horrific attack seemed endless. From the immediate horror of the massacre, to the identification of the shooter, to the surviving students' push for tighter gun laws, it was as if it was the only news for weeks.
Many believe this kind of coverage, and especially attention on the perpetrators, gives would-be killers a reason to act. Many of the mass shooters become household names.
A 2015 study points to a copycat effect, that a mass shooting increases the likelihood of an additional mass shooting in the two-week period following the incident. And a recent study cautioned that media coverage of these attacks might lead to copycat events over a longer period of time.
An ABC News investigation in 2014 found that in the 14 years after the Columbine High School shooting in Colorado, where 13 died, at 17 school shooters, and 36 other students who threatened rampages that were averted, cited Columbine as partial motivation for the attack.