What do you expect them to say..He was evil and we knew this was gonna happen?
You missed the point of it , you stated start by putting a foot in your kids ass and the statement says they didn’t see anything alarming about his behavior, even with strict vigilance of Kids this can happen, even with plans of security at school this can happen ! Putting a foot in your kids ass doesn’t prevent anything ! And I have to ask are you a parent ?
I know you cant actually " put a foot" up your kids ass these days..we have gotten really soft since the " pick a switch" days..I dont own a gun and have only shot a couple times in my life so I just dont get the whole mentality. I do have 2 kids ( 26 and 30 ). I guess I was just lucky they grew up without feeling the urge to kill someone.
What do you expect them to say..He was evil and we knew this was gonna happen?
You missed the point of it , you stated start by putting a foot in your kids ass and the statement says they didn’t see anything alarming about his behavior, even with strict vigilance of Kids this can happen, even with plans of security at school this can happen ! Putting a foot in your kids ass doesn’t prevent anything ! And I have to ask are you a parent ?
I know you cant actually " put a foot" up your kids ass these days..we have gotten really soft since the " pick a switch" days..I dont own a gun and have only shot a couple times in my life so I just dont get the whole mentality. I do have 2 kids ( 26 and 30 ). I guess I was just lucky they grew up without feeling the urge to kill someone.
Yep I believe it comes down to the gun owners that are parents I’ve never shot a weapon at all don’t plan on it anytime soon , so in my family there’s never been talk of guns , hunting or any recreational gun activities, it’s not in our DNA ..
Someone may say "statistic lie" or "statistics are manipulated" but this one has been shown over and over again to be true. One can only conclude that those who support the widespread gun ownership that plagues America either don't believe the statistics or accept that mass shootings are a part of life. I don't know how else to interpret it.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Someone may say "statistic lie" or "statistics are manipulated" but this one has been shown over and over again to be true. One can only conclude that those who support the widespread gun ownership that plagues America either don't believe the statistics or accept that mass shootings are a part of life. I don't know how else to interpret it.
It makes sense no ? I mean the more guns more casualties I’d say the public has become use to it by now why even count how many of these events have occurred...
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Someone may say "statistic lie" or "statistics are manipulated" but this one has been shown over and over again to be true. One can only conclude that those who support the widespread gun ownership that plagues America either don't believe the statistics or accept that mass shootings are a part of life. I don't know how else to interpret it.
It makes sense no ? I mean the more guns more casualties I’d say the public has become use to it by now why even count how many of these events have occurred...
I agree, Jose.
I think the public is becoming jaded. "Ho hum, another mass shooting. Life goes on."
NO! Not for the victims and the families who live with the sorrow, pain and tears. These are senseless killings that happen the way they do more than any other place I know of.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Someone may say "statistic lie" or "statistics are manipulated" but this one has been shown over and over again to be true. One can only conclude that those who support the widespread gun ownership that plagues America either don't believe the statistics or accept that mass shootings are a part of life. I don't know how else to interpret it.
It makes sense no ? I mean the more guns more casualties I’d say the public has become use to it by now why even count how many of these events have occurred...
I agree, Jose.
I think the public is becoming jaded. "Ho hum, another mass shooting. Life goes on."
NO! Not for the victims and the families who live with the sorrow, pain and tears. These are senseless killings that happen the way they do more than any other place I know of.
Totally, can’t even fathom to send your kid to school and be carried out in body bag we’ve lost our way as a nation and it’s sad ...
Guys and girls - it’s way to early to be talking about this. Need to find the sweet spot between mass shootings to have a conversation about gun control/mental health/bullying/video games or whatever you believe needs to be talked about.
at this point the only thing that can and should be done is to send lots and lots of thoughts and lots and lots prayers!
Guys and girls - it’s way to early to be talking about this. Need to find the sweet spot between mass shootings to have a conversation about gun control/mental health/bullying/video games or whatever you believe needs to be talked about.
at this point the only thing that can and should be done is to send lots and lots of thoughts and lots and lots prayers!
You are oblivious. Must be nice living in a bubble and not seeing the clear and present danger of too many exits in America's schools. Snowflake.
Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday.
lol @ violent video games. Dude, many of us in Australia including myself and my friends grew up playing violent video games and watching violent shows and movies. None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
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Guys and girls - it’s way to early to be talking about this. Need to find the sweet spot between mass shootings to have a conversation about gun control/mental health/bullying/video games or whatever you believe needs to be talked about.
at this point the only thing that can and should be done is to send lots and lots of thoughts and lots and lots prayers!
You are oblivious. Must be nice living in a bubble and not seeing the clear and present danger of too many exits in America's schools. Snowflake.
Guys and girls - it’s way to early to be talking about this. Need to find the sweet spot between mass shootings to have a conversation about gun control/mental health/bullying/video games or whatever you believe needs to be talked about.
at this point the only thing that can and should be done is to send lots and lots of thoughts and lots and lots prayers!
You are oblivious. Must be nice living in a bubble and not seeing the clear and present danger of too many exits in America's schools. Snowflake.
It’s too soon to be talking about exits. Please focus on your thoughts and prayers.
Guys and girls - it’s way to early to be talking about this. Need to find the sweet spot between mass shootings to have a conversation about gun control/mental health/bullying/video games or whatever you believe needs to be talked about.
at this point the only thing that can and should be done is to send lots and lots of thoughts and lots and lots prayers!
You are oblivious. Must be nice living in a bubble and not seeing the clear and present danger of too many exits in America's schools. Snowflake.
lol the sarcasm in his post is obvious !
Yeah I thought my previous posts in this thread would have made that pretty clear.
Guys and girls - it’s way to early to be talking about this. Need to find the sweet spot between mass shootings to have a conversation about gun control/mental health/bullying/video games or whatever you believe needs to be talked about.
at this point the only thing that can and should be done is to send lots and lots of thoughts and lots and lots prayers!
You are oblivious. Must be nice living in a bubble and not seeing the clear and present danger of too many exits in America's schools. Snowflake.
lol the sarcasm in his post is obvious !
Yeah I thought my previous posts in this thread would have made that pretty clear.
Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday.
lol @ violent video games. Dude, many of us in Australia including myself and my friends grew up playing violent video games and watching violent shows and movies. None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
Interesting, many of us in the USA, including myself grew up hunting/shooting guns. None of us turned out to be mass murderers either.
Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday.
lol @ violent video games. Dude, many of us in Australia including myself and my friends grew up playing violent video games and watching violent shows and movies. None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
Interesting, many of us in the USA, including myself grew up hunting/shooting guns. None of us turned out to be mass murderers either.
This is just a version of “my grandfather smoked and he still lived to the age of 80”.
No one is claiming that every gun owner/user is going to become a murderer. People are claiming, with a lot of data to justify it, that the high prevalence of gun users/owners in the USA is really the only difference to account for the high rate of gun violence. It’s that simple.
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Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday.
lol @ violent video games. Dude, many of us in Australia including myself and my friends grew up playing violent video games and watching violent shows and movies. None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
Interesting, many of us in the USA, including myself grew up hunting/shooting guns. None of us turned out to be mass murderers either.
This is just a version of “my grandfather smoked and he still lived to the age of 80”.
No one is claiming that every gun owner/user is going to become a murderer. People are claiming, with a lot of data to justify it, that the high prevalence of gun users/owners in the USA is really the only difference to account for the high rate of gun violence. It’s that simple.
So what’s your plan for making them go away? I can think of a few other geographical/cultural differences that makes the US a bit different than Australia as well, can you?
Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday.
lol @ violent video games. Dude, many of us in Australia including myself and my friends grew up playing violent video games and watching violent shows and movies. None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
Interesting, many of us in the USA, including myself grew up hunting/shooting guns. None of us turned out to be mass murderers either.
This is just a version of “my grandfather smoked and he still lived to the age of 80”.
No one is claiming that every gun owner/user is going to become a murderer. People are claiming, with a lot of data to justify it, that the high prevalence of gun users/owners in the USA is really the only difference to account for the high rate of gun violence. It’s that simple.
So what’s your plan for making them go away? I can think of a few other geographical/cultural differences that makes the US a bit different than Australia as well, can you?
I know it’s a difficult truth to believe, but the facts are clear.
Sure, Australia is different from the US. Canada, too. And England. And Sweden. And Argentina. But you know what? All of those countries are different from each other, and none of them have the levels of gun violence that the USA does.
This argument is really just another case of the belief in “American exceptionalism”; that the US is really special and somehow different from the rest of the world. Well, it isn’t; it just has a lot more guns.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday.
lol @ violent video games. Dude, many of us in Australia including myself and my friends grew up playing violent video games and watching violent shows and movies. None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
Interesting, many of us in the USA, including myself grew up hunting/shooting guns. None of us turned out to be mass murderers either.
This is just a version of “my grandfather smoked and he still lived to the age of 80”.
No one is claiming that every gun owner/user is going to become a murderer. People are claiming, with a lot of data to justify it, that the high prevalence of gun users/owners in the USA is really the only difference to account for the high rate of gun violence. It’s that simple.
So what’s your plan for making them go away? I can think of a few other geographical/cultural differences that makes the US a bit different than Australia as well, can you?
I know it’s a difficult truth to believe, but the facts are clear.
Sure, Australia is different from the US. Canada, too. And England. And Sweden. And Argentina. But you know what? All of those countries are different from each other, and none of them have the levels of gun violence that the USA does.
This argument is really just another case of the belief in “American exceptionalism”; that the US is really special and somehow different from the rest of the world. Well, it isn’t; it just has a lot more guns.
So what is your solution? Since the US is not exceptional in any way or another, why is it so hard to implement the same gun laws as Australia? Do you think it is actually possible to implement similar gun laws as Australia and do you think they would have the same effect on gun violence in the USA if implemented?
Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday.
lol @ violent video games. Dude, many of us in Australia including myself and my friends grew up playing violent video games and watching violent shows and movies. None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
Interesting, many of us in the USA, including myself grew up hunting/shooting guns. None of us turned out to be mass murderers either.
This is just a version of “my grandfather smoked and he still lived to the age of 80”.
No one is claiming that every gun owner/user is going to become a murderer. People are claiming, with a lot of data to justify it, that the high prevalence of gun users/owners in the USA is really the only difference to account for the high rate of gun violence. It’s that simple.
So what’s your plan for making them go away? I can think of a few other geographical/cultural differences that makes the US a bit different than Australia as well, can you?
I know it’s a difficult truth to believe, but the facts are clear.
Sure, Australia is different from the US. Canada, too. And England. And Sweden. And Argentina. But you know what? All of those countries are different from each other, and none of them have the levels of gun violence that the USA does.
This argument is really just another case of the belief in “American exceptionalism”; that the US is really special and somehow different from the rest of the world. Well, it isn’t; it just has a lot more guns.
So what is your solution? Since the US is not exceptional in any way or another, why is it so hard to implement the same gun laws as Australia? Do you think it is actually possible to implement similar gun laws as Australia and do you think they would have the same effect on gun violence in the USA if implemented?
There is no single solution. There are a series of reforms that can be taken in order to reduce the violence and the scale. You've read the posts, you are just choosing to ignore them. There is no magic bullet that preserves the 2A, under the definition that even Scalia supported in Heller v. DC. But just because there is no one solution, doesn't mean you don't implement a series of reforms.
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at this point the only thing that can and should be done is to send lots and lots of thoughts and lots and lots prayers!
None of us turned out to be mass murderers.
Texas lieutenant governor blames abortions and violent video games for school shootings, but not guns
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/20/us/texas-lieutenant-governor-dan-patrick-reasons-for-school-shootings/index.html
No one is claiming that every gun owner/user is going to become a murderer. People are claiming, with a lot of data to justify it, that the high prevalence of gun users/owners in the USA is really the only difference to account for the high rate of gun violence. It’s that simple.
Sure, Australia is different from the US. Canada, too. And England. And Sweden. And Argentina. But you know what? All of those countries are different from each other, and none of them have the levels of gun violence that the USA does.
This argument is really just another case of the belief in “American exceptionalism”; that the US is really special and somehow different from the rest of the world. Well, it isn’t; it just has a lot more guns.