America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    When will the pro gun population say enough is enough of the carnage , i'm shocked that they can just keep going with deflection deflection ..
    never. even if they personally experience mass shooting-related loss, they'll just spew the "we need more good guys with guns" mantra even louder. 
    And as Ted Cruz expounded upon, the hope, strength and beauty of communities coming together in the face of evil, or some shit. Thoughts and prayers.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?  I do agree that gun owners should lock their firearms up in some capacity, but how could that even be enforced?
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,229
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,229
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Nothing at all i say let these keep happening this country obviously doesn't give a damn about kids getting shot up at schools i say we live with it till you are sick of seeing the faces of dead kids , you guys wan't guns i say let these massacres keep happening lets see how much blood this country is willing to see in their classrooms with out lifting a fucking finger ...
    So i ask you again what do you suggest ? be done you always have the answers when it comes to deffending the current adminstration and the gate keeper givge us an answer !
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,525
    people might think twice about how they store their guns if they could be held, at least partially, accountable if their weapon is used in a killing. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Nothing at all i say let these keep happening this country obviously doesn't give a damn about kids getting shot up at schools i say we live with it till you are sick of seeing the faces of dead kids , you guys wan't guns i say let these massacres keep happening lets see how much blood this country is willing to see in their classrooms with out lifting a fucking finger ...
    So i ask you again what do you suggest ? be done you always have the answers when it comes to deffending the current adminstration and the gate keeper givge us an answer !
    You may get an actual response if you left out that last bullshit line.  I’ve offered suggestions here before and am not interested in hashing them out again.  But you are right, there will most likely never be a gun free USA if that is the only solution you can come up with.

  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    people might think twice about how they store their guns if they could be held, at least partially, accountable if their weapon is used in a killing. 
    I totally agree and think they should be.  If they have them locked up and someone breaks in and steals them, though, I do not believe they should be held liable.  If it is determined that they are negligent in storing them, then they should most definitely be held accountable.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?  I do agree that gun owners should lock their firearms up in some capacity, but how could that even be enforced?
    Start throwing “responsible” gun owners in jail for There irresponsibility. What would you suggest?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,952
    people might think twice about how they store their guns if they could be held, at least partially, accountable if their weapon is used in a killing. 
    I agree with this, but there would have to be provisions in the event the gun was stored properly in a safe that was stolen. If a safe was stolen, broken into somehow and then that gun was used in a killing, the owner could not be liable. Otherwise, absolutely. If someone is careless and negligent enough to leave his or her guns where their kids or others can easily access them, they should be held accountable. 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?  I do agree that gun owners should lock their firearms up in some capacity, but how could that even be enforced?
    Start throwing “responsible” gun owners in jail for There irresponsibility. What would you suggest?
    As I have mentioned, i’m on board with that too.  If you do not have the means to properly secure a firearm, then you should not own one.  
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,229
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Nothing at all i say let these keep happening this country obviously doesn't give a damn about kids getting shot up at schools i say we live with it till you are sick of seeing the faces of dead kids , you guys wan't guns i say let these massacres keep happening lets see how much blood this country is willing to see in their classrooms with out lifting a fucking finger ...
    So i ask you again what do you suggest ? be done you always have the answers when it comes to deffending the current adminstration and the gate keeper givge us an answer !
    You may get an actual response if you left out that last bullshit line.  I’ve offered suggestions here before and am not interested in hashing them out again.  But you are right, there will most likely never be a gun free USA if that is the only solution you can come up with.

    Ok so you agree let the massacres keep happening ....funny i thought you were a bafoon defender i guess i was wrong my apologies ...
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Nothing at all i say let these keep happening this country obviously doesn't give a damn about kids getting shot up at schools i say we live with it till you are sick of seeing the faces of dead kids , you guys wan't guns i say let these massacres keep happening lets see how much blood this country is willing to see in their classrooms with out lifting a fucking finger ...
    So i ask you again what do you suggest ? be done you always have the answers when it comes to deffending the current adminstration and the gate keeper givge us an answer !
    You may get an actual response if you left out that last bullshit line.  I’ve offered suggestions here before and am not interested in hashing them out again.  But you are right, there will most likely never be a gun free USA if that is the only solution you can come up with.

    Ok so you agree let the massacres keep happening ....funny i thought you were a bafoon defender i guess i was wrong my apologies ...
    I’m agreeing to let it happen about as much as you are by not offering any suggestions about how this most recent incident could have been stopped.  You have not offered any that I have seen.
    apology accepted   
  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Proactive measures taken 20 years ago might have stopped this.

    Everybody's looking for a band aid solution. There isn't one. In the short term... expect carnage; however, with the proper steps... in 20 years we might not be having the same f**king horrible lopsided argument that defies not only sensibility, but decency.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,229
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Nothing at all i say let these keep happening this country obviously doesn't give a damn about kids getting shot up at schools i say we live with it till you are sick of seeing the faces of dead kids , you guys wan't guns i say let these massacres keep happening lets see how much blood this country is willing to see in their classrooms with out lifting a fucking finger ...
    So i ask you again what do you suggest ? be done you always have the answers when it comes to deffending the current adminstration and the gate keeper givge us an answer !
    You may get an actual response if you left out that last bullshit line.  I’ve offered suggestions here before and am not interested in hashing them out again.  But you are right, there will most likely never be a gun free USA if that is the only solution you can come up with.

    Ok so you agree let the massacres keep happening ....funny i thought you were a bafoon defender i guess i was wrong my apologies ...
    I’m agreeing to let it happen about as much as you are by not offering any suggestions about how this most recent incident could have been stopped.  You have not offered any that I have seen.
    apology accepted   
    correct i say let everybody buy any weapon they so desire let people shoot eachother at all locations for any reason let the blood flow till all gun sympathizers get sick of seeing blood , they want guns i say go for it , you get cut off on highway shoot the driver , somone looks at you wrong shoot them dead ...i wanna see how long till the gun crowd says enough enough already , i've already had enough but i'm in the minority , lets ban AR'S never , lets jail irresponsible gun owners never happen , let ban large clips never happen on & on so i've trown in the towel the gun crowd has won now lets sit back and watch the massacres ....
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,982
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?  I do agree that gun owners should lock their firearms up in some capacity, but how could that even be enforced?
    Laws around gun cabinets,  trigger locks and moving to mandatory fingerprint sensors on any newly manufactured guns
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Locked up? Yup.
    Stored elsewhere? Yup.
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  • Agreed with prosecuting fools that improperly store their guns.

    You need a gun? No problem. But you're accountable for it.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Keep kicking the can down the road and whistling by the graveyard. You had armed school security on premises and a “responsible” gun owner. Nothing can be done, thoughts and prayers.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Locked up? Yup.
    Stored elsewhere? Yup.
    Care to elaborate?  How would your fairy tale laws read?

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I know one thing... more guns sure isn't the fucking answer 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Locked up? Yup.
    Stored elsewhere? Yup.
    Care to elaborate?  How would your fairy tale laws read?

    Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
     
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    did anything happen today? 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Locked up? Yup.
    Stored elsewhere? Yup.
    Care to elaborate?  How would your fairy tale laws read?

    Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
     
    That’s right, nothing.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,982
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Locked up? Yup.
    Stored elsewhere? Yup.
    Care to elaborate?  How would your fairy tale laws read?

    Maybe you can? But I kind of doubt it because all you got is nothing.
     
    That’s right, nothing.
    I don't understand your point.  I offered three suggestions that would have helped prevent this tragedy.  He touches on them as well.  I'll try again:
    1. Law around gun cabinets
    2. Trigger locks
    3. Fingerprint sensors to enable the trigger mechanism.  The technology absolutely exists.  

    Do you believe that if 1. Any of these laws existed and were required and 2. the law abiding father followed the law, that this tragedy could not have been averted?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,545
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Legitimate question: What has Texas done regarding anything to prevent what happened today between the church shooting that killed 26 and today? Other than thoughts and prayers?
    What would you suggest be done that would have prevented this one?  He used a .38 Revolver and a Shotgun...?
    What would you suggest be done about this ? 
    Idk, what would you suggest?
    Really? You don’t know?
    Nope, do you?  What would have stopped this most recent event where a revolver and shotgun were used by a 17 year old?
    Assault weapons ban-nope
    minimim age requirements-nope
    background checks-nope
    waiting periods-nope
    Locked up? Yup.
    Stored elsewhere? Yup.
    Care to elaborate?  How would your fairy tale laws read?

    I thought you were against the government imposing laws for those things the individual should do without, like be “responsible?”
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,285
    Charge the father too.
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