America's Gun Violence

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    mickeyrat said:

    Yay guns!!!!!!!

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/road-raging-mercedes-driver-shoots-himself-in-the-leg-while-waving-rifle-and-handgun-at-florida-family/

    A man accidentally shot himself in the leg while waving two guns at a woman and her children during a Florida road rage incident.

    Mark another responsible gun owner off the list!
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    rgambs said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Yay guns!!!!!!!

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/road-raging-mercedes-driver-shoots-himself-in-the-leg-while-waving-rifle-and-handgun-at-florida-family/

    A man accidentally shot himself in the leg while waving two guns at a woman and her children during a Florida road rage incident.

    Mark another responsible gun owner off the list!
    This probably all totally legal in Florida.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    mickeyrat said:

    Yay guns!!!!!!!

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/road-raging-mercedes-driver-shoots-himself-in-the-leg-while-waving-rifle-and-handgun-at-florida-family/

    A man accidentally shot himself in the leg while waving two guns at a woman and her children during a Florida road rage incident.

    This happened in Florida? Shocking.

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Jason P said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Yay guns!!!!!!!

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/road-raging-mercedes-driver-shoots-himself-in-the-leg-while-waving-rifle-and-handgun-at-florida-family/

    A man accidentally shot himself in the leg while waving two guns at a woman and her children during a Florida road rage incident.

    This happened in Florida? Shocking.

    Start building the wall!
    HA. But gotta sneak RR over first.
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    Hey, jerks! RR and I can piss on Florida because we're from/live there. Y'all, on the other hand, are just -- wait for it! -- bigots.

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  • JUST A GIRLJUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    edited September 2015
    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
  • dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
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  • dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    Yep. Don't play with guns real or fake. As a child, it's his parents fault for not teaching him better. But no fault of the cops, only doing their job.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880

    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    Yep. Don't play with guns real or fake. As a child, it's his parents fault for not teaching him better. But no fault of the cops, only doing their job.
    a 12 year old deserves to be shot to death?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,822

    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    Yep. Don't play with guns real or fake. As a child, it's his parents fault for not teaching him better. But no fault of the cops, only doing their job.
    a 12 year old deserves to be shot to death?
    It's amazing that someone who claims to be a good christian would say/believe such a thing.

    (Not bullying just stating a fact based on past posts)
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    Yep. Don't play with guns real or fake. As a child, it's his parents fault for not teaching him better. But no fault of the cops, only doing their job.
    Do you know anything about the case? An investigation said there was enough evidence to charge the cop with murder. It is unclear whether the cop even gave Tamir a verbal warning before shooting him. So you really think there was no fault on the cop's part? You can't concede that the cop was at least negligent, or a little quick on the trigger?
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,199

    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    Yep. Don't play with guns real or fake. As a child, it's his parents fault for not teaching him better. But no fault of the cops, only doing their job.
    a 12 year old deserves to be shot to death?
    It's amazing that someone who claims to be a good christian would say/believe such a thing.

    (Not bullying just stating a fact based on past posts)
    Even more amazing is the insensitivity.....yet a few words here or there on these boards and ALL hell appears to breaks loose as far as being victimized/bullied.

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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260

    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    Yep. Don't play with guns real or fake. As a child, it's his parents fault for not teaching him better. But no fault of the cops, only doing their job.
    a 12 year old deserves to be shot to death?
    It's amazing that someone who claims to be a good christian would say/believe such a thing.

    (Not bullying just stating a fact based on past posts)
    Don't you remember the "*" after "thou shall not kill" that says "*unless in self defense"?
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,662
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    ed243421 said:

    I woulda thought it was a sin to be such a master baiter

    Kinda like bearing false witness, no?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,822
    ed243421 said:

    I woulda thought it was a sin to be such a master baiter

    HEY :anguished: this is an all ages forum!!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    g under p said:

    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    Yep. Don't play with guns real or fake. As a child, it's his parents fault for not teaching him better. But no fault of the cops, only doing their job.
    a 12 year old deserves to be shot to death?
    It's amazing that someone who claims to be a good christian would say/believe such a thing.

    (Not bullying just stating a fact based on past posts)
    Even more amazing is the insensitivity.....yet a few words here or there on these boards and ALL hell appears to breaks loose as far as being victimized/bullied.

    Peace

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
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    murica.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,616

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    murica.

    that gun looks fake to me for some reason. but still in bad taste.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mcgruff10 said:

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    murica.

    that gun looks fake to me for some reason. but still in bad taste.
    it is a toy. someone said earlier in the thread that we should not have toy guns or something like that. i just posted the picture to prove that we still do and we start playing with them as soon as we can hold something other than a baby bottle.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,616

    mcgruff10 said:

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    murica.

    that gun looks fake to me for some reason. but still in bad taste.
    it is a toy. someone said earlier in the thread that we should not have toy guns or something like that. i just posted the picture to prove that we still do and we start playing with them as soon as we can hold something other than a baby bottle.
    Ah got yA. I remember growing up toy guns looked real as hell and none of us got shot. Crazy times we live in.
    I think my three sons starting "shooting" each other with things at age two or three lol.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,616
    god damn this thread sucks since last12exit left. who do i argue with? dirty thirty makes too much sense. argh.
    so i saw this statistic today: honduras and switzerland have the same population. switzerland requires citizens by law to have a gun in their house and honduras bans citizens from owning guns. switzerland has the lowest homicide rate in the world and honduras has the highest. interesting.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    I think your statistic on Honduras is incorrect - what I read states that both citizens and non-citizen permanent residents can own many different types of guns. Apparently up until the mid-80s there were no laws regarding gun ownership and guns. Restrictions have gradually come in over the years.

    I've never been to Honduras but I've been to Switzerland three times and I can tell you, you'd never mistake it for being in the USA. The Swiss are fanatically law-abiding and totally happy with restrictions. The laws around screening out who can't own a firearm include prohibiting anyone with a criminal record or record of mental illness, only allowing purchase from an authorized source, and three weapons per person.

    Some sources I've read say that open carry is common in Switzerland, but I have to say I don't think I ever saw someone openly carrying a firearm there. Perhaps that's more concentrated in certain areas.
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  • mcgruff10 said:

    god damn this thread sucks since last12exit left. who do i argue with? dirty thirty makes too much sense. argh.
    so i saw this statistic today: honduras and switzerland have the same population. switzerland requires citizens by law to have a gun in their house and honduras bans citizens from owning guns. switzerland has the lowest homicide rate in the world and honduras has the highest. interesting.

    Switzerland also features social programs that ensure all citizens are cared for- they typically don't feel the need to kill people with their guns because their quality of life is good.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845

    mcgruff10 said:

    god damn this thread sucks since last12exit left. who do i argue with? dirty thirty makes too much sense. argh.
    so i saw this statistic today: honduras and switzerland have the same population. switzerland requires citizens by law to have a gun in their house and honduras bans citizens from owning guns. switzerland has the lowest homicide rate in the world and honduras has the highest. interesting.

    Switzerland also features social programs that ensure all citizens are cared for- they typically don't feel the need to kill people with their guns because their quality of life is good.
    Yes, true. If you are Swiss you have a pretty good life from what I can see.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,616

    I think your statistic on Honduras is incorrect - what I read states that both citizens and non-citizen permanent residents can own many different types of guns. Apparently up until the mid-80s there were no laws regarding gun ownership and guns. Restrictions have gradually come in over the years.

    I've never been to Honduras but I've been to Switzerland three times and I can tell you, you'd never mistake it for being in the USA. The Swiss are fanatically law-abiding and totally happy with restrictions. The laws around screening out who can't own a firearm include prohibiting anyone with a criminal record or record of mental illness, only allowing purchase from an authorized source, and three weapons per person.

    Some sources I've read say that open carry is common in Switzerland, but I have to say I don't think I ever saw someone openly carrying a firearm there. Perhaps that's more concentrated in certain areas.

    it's a thousand percent inaccurate and I apologize for breaking my own cardinal sin: check your fucking sources three times over!!!! forget what I said as after I actually did research I found out honduras citizens can own firearms. my bad on that and it won't happen again. dumb ass Facebook.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:

    I think your statistic on Honduras is incorrect - what I read states that both citizens and non-citizen permanent residents can own many different types of guns. Apparently up until the mid-80s there were no laws regarding gun ownership and guns. Restrictions have gradually come in over the years.

    I've never been to Honduras but I've been to Switzerland three times and I can tell you, you'd never mistake it for being in the USA. The Swiss are fanatically law-abiding and totally happy with restrictions. The laws around screening out who can't own a firearm include prohibiting anyone with a criminal record or record of mental illness, only allowing purchase from an authorized source, and three weapons per person.

    Some sources I've read say that open carry is common in Switzerland, but I have to say I don't think I ever saw someone openly carrying a firearm there. Perhaps that's more concentrated in certain areas.

    it's a thousand percent inaccurate and I apologize for breaking my own cardinal sin: check your fucking sources three times over!!!! forget what I said as after I actually did research I found out honduras citizens can own firearms. my bad on that and it won't happen again. dumb ass Facebook.
    Galldarnit Scruffy.

    Sheesh.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,990

    dankind said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^ Anyone dumb enough to be waving a realistic-looking BB gun around deserves to be shot by the cops. Of course the cops need to assume that's a real gun. I don't get upset about those stories at all.

    What about 12-year-old Tamir Rice?
    For once I agree w soul. He deserves it as much as anyone else. When the cops say put down the gun, and you don't, then their saving their own lives by killing you. It's just how it goes.

    Someone should have taught the child about guns and why they're not for children.
    Deserves it?

    I had play guns when I was growing up. I can be thankful I had space to play.

    Have you seen the video? The kid was just sitting there- he had no chance. Ask anyone on here... I am the most ardent defender of police there is; but this incident is indefensible.
    FTR, just so that no one thinks I thought Tamir Rice deserved it, I did post a response to that question saying that in Tamir's specific case the police were at fault IMO.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,616

    mcgruff10 said:

    I think your statistic on Honduras is incorrect - what I read states that both citizens and non-citizen permanent residents can own many different types of guns. Apparently up until the mid-80s there were no laws regarding gun ownership and guns. Restrictions have gradually come in over the years.

    I've never been to Honduras but I've been to Switzerland three times and I can tell you, you'd never mistake it for being in the USA. The Swiss are fanatically law-abiding and totally happy with restrictions. The laws around screening out who can't own a firearm include prohibiting anyone with a criminal record or record of mental illness, only allowing purchase from an authorized source, and three weapons per person.

    Some sources I've read say that open carry is common in Switzerland, but I have to say I don't think I ever saw someone openly carrying a firearm there. Perhaps that's more concentrated in certain areas.

    it's a thousand percent inaccurate and I apologize for breaking my own cardinal sin: check your fucking sources three times over!!!! forget what I said as after I actually did research I found out honduras citizens can own firearms. my bad on that and it won't happen again. dumb ass Facebook.
    Galldarnit Scruffy.

    Sheesh.
    I fucked up bad, but I am seeing pearl jam tomorrow in central park!!!!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I think your statistic on Honduras is incorrect - what I read states that both citizens and non-citizen permanent residents can own many different types of guns. Apparently up until the mid-80s there were no laws regarding gun ownership and guns. Restrictions have gradually come in over the years.

    I've never been to Honduras but I've been to Switzerland three times and I can tell you, you'd never mistake it for being in the USA. The Swiss are fanatically law-abiding and totally happy with restrictions. The laws around screening out who can't own a firearm include prohibiting anyone with a criminal record or record of mental illness, only allowing purchase from an authorized source, and three weapons per person.

    Some sources I've read say that open carry is common in Switzerland, but I have to say I don't think I ever saw someone openly carrying a firearm there. Perhaps that's more concentrated in certain areas.

    it's a thousand percent inaccurate and I apologize for breaking my own cardinal sin: check your fucking sources three times over!!!! forget what I said as after I actually did research I found out honduras citizens can own firearms. my bad on that and it won't happen again. dumb ass Facebook.
    Galldarnit Scruffy.

    Sheesh.
    I fucked up bad, but I am seeing pearl jam tomorrow in central park!!!!!!
    And now you're a braggart.

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