So I'm entitled because I want a fair shot like everyone else at seeing my favorite band live? Wow. I'm not even sure why I'm arguing about this, clearly the band agrees with me, hence adding the GA pit to see some different faces up front.
What's not fair about a lottery? Everyone's equal.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Springsteen fans seem to make it work and this is without a fan club.
It's not really the fans that make it work. Springsteen's management (or whatever) runs the process themselves. There is no fan club so the whole floor is GA tickets bought from TM. You get to the arena in the afternoon, grab a number, go have a few beers, come back, they draw a number, and that number is the starting point for people who get into the pit. If there's still room after the hit the last number, the circle back and start at #1.
There's no point in lining up all day, there's no fighting, and it's pretty sweet. But it is done by Springsteen's posse or whatever. I don't think it's fans running it. It's probably why it's so smooth.
The funny part is that it's to determine who get's into the pit. PJ shows have already determined that, but because 10clubbers know this in advance, they line up all day. It'd be cooler if PJ consolidated it to one lottery per show, and random winners got in the pit (and you didn't find out you had GA until the day of show). It leave's the system way less open to manipulation that way. U2 did that on the vertigo tour and it was pretty cool. I missed out in getting in the pit on the atomic bomb tour because the lineup got so long it formed a U, so the end was right by the front, and chaos occured when the doors opened.
But the U2 vertigo tour thing of randomly winning pit passes work well. You didn't have to lineup all day. I'm also only saying that because I won via that method
GA's are here to stay. Ed spent some time at Springsteen shows and the pit is based on his set up. Just seats behind the pit. It is a great setup
As far as long time members, I understand the displeasure but a fan that is as new as yesterday should have the same opportunity to be up front as a 20 year veteran. I'm sure after 20 years, one would have been up front. Why would a fan club want to penalize newer members? I like this system.
Why would a fan club want to penalize older members?
It's not penalizing older members it is just leveling the playing field. I'm not referring to you but people that think if you have sort of level of seniority you automatically deserve the best tickets. Kind of an elitist attitude. The 1%. New fans keep the ball rolling.
Maybe penalize is the wrong word. I don't really care where I sit, I only care about getting in the room. I remember when I first joined ('99) you could get two tickets to as many shows as you want and if I remember correctly it was the luck of the draw as far as where you sat. All you had to do was show up with your id and get your tickets. I understand the point of a lottery, i don't agree with it but I understand it. It's a numbers game. It's a business. It's way to increase membership which brings in more money. The convenience of a one-stop-shop for tickets is gone.
Example:
Lets say someone wants to go to 3 concerts. One of the concerts (excluding Denver) they won the lottery to. One concert is in a city other than Denver. And the final concert was the Denver show itself. The person would have to do three transactions to go to all three shows: 10 Club, Ticketmaster, and Altitude Tickets (the Pepsi Center does not use TM).
Springsteen fans seem to make it work and this is without a fan club.
It's not really the fans that make it work. Springsteen's management (or whatever) runs the process themselves. There is no fan club so the whole floor is GA tickets bought from TM. You get to the arena in the afternoon, grab a number, go have a few beers, come back, they draw a number, and that number is the starting point for people who get into the pit. If there's still room after the hit the last number, the circle back and start at #1.
There's no point in lining up all day, there's no fighting, and it's pretty sweet. But it is done by Springsteen's posse or whatever. I don't think it's fans running it. It's probably why it's so smooth.
The funny part is that it's to determine who get's into the pit. PJ shows have already determined that, but because 10clubbers know this in advance, they line up all day. It'd be cooler if PJ consolidated it to one lottery per show, and random winners got in the pit (and you didn't find out you had GA until the day of show). It leave's the system way less open to manipulation that way. U2 did that on the vertigo tour and it was pretty cool. I missed out in getting in the pit on the atomic bomb tour because the lineup got so long it formed a U, so the end was right by the front, and chaos occured when the doors opened.
But the U2 vertigo tour thing of randomly winning pit passes work well. You didn't have to lineup all day. I'm also only saying that because I won via that method
Seen Springteen over 40 times. You are right, the system works well.
I think seniority does matter. Good #'s mean great seats, albeit not in the pit. Having good seniority allows you to go after the larger pool of reserved seats for a particularly popular show knowing that your seats will still be great. This is a big advantage. Going after GA for a very popular show greatly DECREASES your odds of actually going to the show. If you miss out on the extremely limited amount of GA tix with priority #1, then you are left going for the "scraps" (if there are even any left) in reserved for priority #2. Being able to sacrifice the GA PIT knowing that your low member # will net you just as great, if not BETTER seats in the reserved section is HUGE.
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So I'm entitled because I want a fair shot like everyone else at seeing my favorite band live? Wow. I'm not even sure why I'm arguing about this, clearly the band agrees with me, hence adding the GA pit to see some different faces up front.
What's not fair about a lottery? Everyone's equal.
Yeah I'm agreeing with the lottery, I'm criticizing the people who feel entitled to special treatment
Not into the idea that living closer to a venue than the other guy should count for something. It's been 18 years since they played "close" to my hometown. That was the only time out of my 39 shows I didn't have to travel hundreds of miles. Hypothetical question: should someone who lives in let's say NY or MA (where the band has played numerous times) have more of a chance than the fellow New Englander from VT, NH or ME ( where all together have had 1 show ever: 1996 Augusta, ME) Just my opinion.
Congrats to all those who were lucky yesterday!
1996: Augusta
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II 2017: New York 2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
I joined in 2007, I've since let my number lapse and now Im like 500,000 or something.
From what I'm reading pre lottery, members who had a low number assumed they had a better shot at getting tickets than me. I assumed we all had the same shot at tickets, but my tickets were going to be worse location wise.
Am I missing something, did lower 10club numbers have better odds at securing tickets or are people just sour they missed out.
I joined in 2007, I've since let my number lapse and now Im like 500,000 or something.
From what I'm reading pre lottery, members who had a low number assumed they had a better shot at getting tickets than me. I assumed we all had the same shot at tickets, but my tickets were going to be worse location wise.
Am I missing something, did lower 10club numbers have better odds at securing tickets or are people just sour they missed out.
I really thought I understood, but maybe I don't.
Please explain.
No, you are right. Winning the lottery is the same odds for everyone. After that, seniority comes into play for reserved seating tickets.
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This what am saying if your Club Number means something or dictates seniority - I just check I have the EXACT same number as I did in 1996 and it hasn't changed, you cant tell me that other club members before me haven't left in that time frame......
I joined in 2007, I've since let my number lapse and now Im like 500,000 or something.
From what I'm reading pre lottery, members who had a low number assumed they had a better shot at getting tickets than me. I assumed we all had the same shot at tickets, but my tickets were going to be worse location wise.
Am I missing something, did lower 10club numbers have better odds at securing tickets or are people just sour they missed out.
I really thought I understood, but maybe I don't.
Please explain.
No, you are right. Winning the lottery is the same odds for everyone. After that, seniority comes into play for reserved seating tickets.
So really nothing has changed except we don't sit here all day and refresh our screens?
Lower numbers still get you better seats, correct? So seniority is still as alive and beneficial as it always has been?
2014 Membership 20$ Member join at 1996 paid for this year 20$ Member join at 2013 paid for this year 20$
Both same chances to score for tix of this year
after both score 1996 get better seats..
all so fine and simple...
I agree with this line of reasoning. Your 10C membership fee basically gives you the chance to get 1st shot at fan club tickets before the public sale for the year that you are a member.
For the people around in 1992, your membership fee got you first crack at tickets for shows in 1992. You got that benefit in 1992 and non-members did not. Your payment in 1992 did not guarantee you a lifetime of tickets.
For people who paid to be in the 10C in 1996, your fee got you a shot at tickets in 1996. You got that benefit in 1996.
The people who paid for a membership in 2014, got a shot at tickets in 2014.
The 10C is giving everyone who paid to be a member the same access to tickets and the same benefit for their membership fee. Seniority only comes into play once you win tickets. Senior members get better seats.
The real issue is that the 10C is growing and the band is touring less. Demand is far outpacing supply.
Going to the D. Standing in GA. Happy! Been on the losing end, too. I feel some of the pain, but I Have been lucky to know other 10CC members allowing me access to some uneasy access shows. make Buds!!!!!
I think a lot of ppl don't realize that your priority is the same thing as your hometown show. You make the show #1, you have a better chance. Even if you live 50,000 miles away you can still make whatever show you choose your hometown show. It doesn't have to be location based. I think 10C did a good job with this, it was a huge complaint in the past.
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
So I'm entitled because I want a fair shot like everyone else at seeing my favorite band live? Wow. I'm not even sure why I'm arguing about this, clearly the band agrees with me, hence adding the GA pit to see some different faces up front.
What's not fair about a lottery? Everyone's equal.
Yeah I'm agreeing with the lottery, I'm criticizing the people who feel entitled to special treatment
Like seniority has been an advertised benefit for maintaining membership and now some young whippersnappers complain about being born late and want special treatment? HA.
Seniority was always promoted by the band to give you better seats. It's a hybrid now due to GA. The lottery is fair and think its best system they've ever had cept GA sucks but know many like it. Soooo all good.
Been a member since 93/94.....as far as I can recall, seniority was never a factor in the ability to purchase tickets...seniority was only the guiding factor in terms of seat quality.
The advent of GA floor is a good compromise in terms of catering to both old and new members.
so I should activate my wife's membership she doesnt care about and start one for my son just to take advantage of a flawed system that should be fixed?
its genius from 10c for sure. basically ups the membership price to $100 on years they play a few shows.
If it makes you feel better on the spouse accounts, my husband and I both were shut out this round on a hometown show we've been hoping for since 2004. We are both fans and paid twice as much $ to enter and lose the lottery than you did.
I could obsess over the locals getting shut out of a home show just as you are obsessing over spouse accounts, but what's the point? I'm glad there are a lot of 10c folks coming into town (Denver) for this, even if it means I have to go public sale or scalper.
We added my husband's membership last year when we were trying for 2013 fall tickets around a family trip to PNW and wanted to do what we could to ensure 4 seats - our teenaged kids were with us. We're not scammers. Let it go.
but you had double the chance as a single fan, and IMO that isnt completely equitable as everyone paints the lottery as.
I dont have a problem with the legit fans who happen to be married. I am sure there are a lot of questionable memberships out there now just held as GA chances. Not everyone here is on the up and up. I have seen members' ebay stores.
Been a member since 93/94.....as far as I can recall, seniority was never a factor in the ability to purchase tickets...seniority was only the guiding factor in terms of seat quality.
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Correct.
I don't know where anybody got the idea that seniority gave you an advantage in purchasing tickets. It never has. Back in the mid to late 90's being a member of the fan club did guarantee you tickets...why?...because the membership level was much much smaller than it is now, and we were allowed to by 2 tickets per tour. No multiple shows. And the tours were larger, so there were a lot more than 10 shows to select from.
Seniority has only ever come into play with seat location. It still does for reserved seats. The advent of GA in the US mitigates seniority's worth to an extent, but the inability to get tickets has zero to do with seniority or lack thereof, its strictly supply and demand and the club has swelled to a point where the demand is far greater than 15-20 years ago, and to make matters worse, the band no longer embarks on long tours that encompass the entire country (except of course the south) in one calendar year. That's the real crux of the problem...too few shows nowadays.
So I'm entitled because I want a fair shot like everyone else at seeing my favorite band live? Wow. I'm not even sure why I'm arguing about this, clearly the band agrees with me, hence adding the GA pit to see some different faces up front.
What's not fair about a lottery? Everyone's equal.
Yeah I'm agreeing with the lottery, I'm criticizing the people who feel entitled to special treatment
Like seniority has been an advertised benefit for maintaining membership and now some young whippersnappers complain about being born late and want special treatment? HA.
Seniority was always promoted by the band to give you better seats. It's a hybrid now due to GA. The lottery is fair and think its best system they've ever had cept GA sucks but know many like it. Soooo all good.
Please point out to me where I asked for special treatment, please dont put words in my mouth, I want equal treatment, better yet I want ALMOST equal treatment, I am in total support of you guys getting the better reserved seats. I just think we should have equal chances at getting in the building and and equal shot at seeing the band up front once or twice in a lifetime.
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I don't really understand why "senior" members complain that they paid dues for 20 years and they expect not only better seating but guaranteed tickets before newer members get them.
The way I see it, as a long term fan but newer fan club member, those folks enjoyed the benefits of their membership for 15-20 years every year there was a tour. Many act as though they got no benefits for all those dues . And why would anyone join 10c now if the only real benefits are not available to them?
I don't think any senior members are expecting guaranteed tickets. What senior members want is a minor weighting system. It doesn't have to be huge or anything, but maybe just a small bone. In addition to index cards, senior members had to sit and wait all day, in rain, sun, extreme heat, etc, when tickets were handed out in blocks of ten club numbers. There were no envelopes at the window, just a stack of tickets. Many would have to take days off of work just to stand in line all day. No one is saying senior members should get guaranteed tickets. Senior members should get just a little better odds of winning reserved tickets through a weighted system.
Despite everyone saying that senior members have better seats in reserved, those seats actually have gotten a bit worse due to GA. I do think GA makes perfect sense. It gives newer members the chance to get up front and gives us fans more available tickets, as more members can fit in the pit than if seats were there. But it definitely has pushed back reserved seating quite a bit. Not complaining, but just a fact.
So I'm entitled because I want a fair shot like everyone else at seeing my favorite band live? Wow. I'm not even sure why I'm arguing about this, clearly the band agrees with me, hence adding the GA pit to see some different faces up front.
What's not fair about a lottery? Everyone's equal.
Yeah I'm agreeing with the lottery, I'm criticizing the people who feel entitled to special treatment
Like seniority has been an advertised benefit for maintaining membership and now some young whippersnappers complain about being born late and want special treatment? HA.
Seniority was always promoted by the band to give you better seats. It's a hybrid now due to GA. The lottery is fair and think its best system they've ever had cept GA sucks but know many like it. Soooo all good.
Please point out to me where I asked for special treatment, please dont put words in my mouth, I want equal treatment, better yet I want ALMOST equal treatment, I am in total support of you guys getting the better reserved seats. I just think we should have equal chances at getting in the building and and equal shot at seeing the band up front once or twice in a lifetime.
We 're in total agreement and my post was more in jest than anything.
Member # 27xxx here i'm not leaving 10C , i have way more important things in my life to worry about & getting my front row seats to a concert is not one of'em any more .....
U are an inspiration to our club..amd not cos of your number..but for theway u deal with life
Don't confuse this board with real life. Some may be pissed that seniority doesn't matter much any more and that they lost out on tickets, and this board is here to comment on it. I think seniority should matter and will state my opinion on here, but that doesn't mean this is the most important thing in the world to me and others and our priorities are messed up. If this board didn't exist we wouldn't debate it with our friends and family, but the board does and we do.
not confusing anything..my opinion for Jose,who i know in person nothing to do with forum,or pj or al this whole forum thing. i personally admire him,for the way he sees life,for me is very wise person and i always put alot of thought to his answer here and to our private conversations im glad i call him friend of mine
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My wife just re-joined this past year, probably has a 5xxxxx #, got 2 of her 3 picks. I, on the other hand, have been a loyal dues paying member since '95, #136xxx & got only 1 of my 3. Just so happens we have 2 sets of reserved for Memphis. Seniority means nothing in this world these days. Not at work, not here, nowhere. You may say we cry or sound as if we should have privilege, but in all honesty, that used to be what loyalty got you. Now the "New Kids" cry & of course the club wants to keep the new blood happy, more earning potential for the band on down the line.
I've noticed after reading several posts, that it seems that long-time members are losing the lottery where the new members are winning. Coincidence? I wonder.
wow. before this auto renewal... it was hard to remember to renew sometimes... i remember checking that mailing label for my membership expiration date...and mailing that check out to Seattle.. who remembers those days?
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
There's no point in lining up all day, there's no fighting, and it's pretty sweet. But it is done by Springsteen's posse or whatever. I don't think it's fans running it. It's probably why it's so smooth.
The funny part is that it's to determine who get's into the pit. PJ shows have already determined that, but because 10clubbers know this in advance, they line up all day. It'd be cooler if PJ consolidated it to one lottery per show, and random winners got in the pit (and you didn't find out you had GA until the day of show). It leave's the system way less open to manipulation that way. U2 did that on the vertigo tour and it was pretty cool. I missed out in getting in the pit on the atomic bomb tour because the lineup got so long it formed a U, so the end was right by the front, and chaos occured when the doors opened.
But the U2 vertigo tour thing of randomly winning pit passes work well. You didn't have to lineup all day. I'm also only saying that because I won via that method
Example:
Lets say someone wants to go to 3 concerts. One of the concerts (excluding Denver) they won the lottery to. One concert is in a city other than Denver. And the final concert was the Denver show itself. The person would have to do three transactions to go to all three shows: 10 Club, Ticketmaster, and Altitude Tickets (the Pepsi Center does not use TM).
Is a member of the fan club benefiting form this?
1998 Mansfield
2000 Atlanta & Mansfield
2003 Mansfield (X2)
2004 Boston
2006 Chicago & Boston (x2)
2008 Mansfield (x2)
2009 Chicago
2010 Buffalo & Boston
2011 Toronto
2012 Amsterdam
2013 Wrigley, Worcerster (x2), Philly, & Hartford
2014 Memphis, Moline, Denver
2016 Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Hampton, Philly, Fenway (x2), Wrigley Monday
2018 Wrigley (x2), Fenway (x2)
2022 MSG. Nashville
Congrats to all those who were lucky yesterday!
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II
2017: New York
2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
I joined in 2007, I've since let my number lapse and now Im like 500,000 or something.
From what I'm reading pre lottery, members who had a low number assumed they had a better shot at getting tickets than me.
I assumed we all had the same shot at tickets, but my tickets were going to be worse location wise.
Am I missing something, did lower 10club numbers have better odds at securing tickets or are people just sour they missed out.
I really thought I understood, but maybe I don't.
Please explain.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
So what does your Club Number really Mean?
Lower numbers still get you better seats, correct? So seniority is still as alive and beneficial as it always has been?
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
For the people around in 1992, your membership fee got you first crack at tickets for shows in 1992. You got that benefit in 1992 and non-members did not. Your payment in 1992 did not guarantee you a lifetime of tickets.
For people who paid to be in the 10C in 1996, your fee got you a shot at tickets in 1996. You got that benefit in 1996.
The people who paid for a membership in 2014, got a shot at tickets in 2014.
The 10C is giving everyone who paid to be a member the same access to tickets and the same benefit for their membership fee. Seniority only comes into play once you win tickets. Senior members get better seats.
The real issue is that the 10C is growing and the band is touring less. Demand is far outpacing supply.
Seniority was always promoted by the band to give you better seats. It's a hybrid now due to GA. The lottery is fair and think its best system they've ever had cept GA sucks but know many like it. Soooo all good.
The advent of GA floor is a good compromise in terms of catering to both old and new members.
I could obsess over the locals getting shut out of a home show just as you are obsessing over spouse accounts, but what's the point? I'm glad there are a lot of 10c folks coming into town (Denver) for this, even if it means I have to go public sale or scalper.
We added my husband's membership last year when we were trying for 2013 fall tickets around a family trip to PNW and wanted to do what we could to ensure 4 seats - our teenaged kids were with us. We're not scammers. Let it go.
I dont have a problem with the legit fans who happen to be married. I am sure there are a lot of questionable memberships out there now just held as GA chances. Not everyone here is on the up and up. I have seen members' ebay stores.
I don't know where anybody got the idea that seniority gave you an advantage in purchasing tickets. It never has.
Back in the mid to late 90's being a member of the fan club did guarantee you tickets...why?...because the membership level was much much smaller than it is now, and we were allowed to by 2 tickets per tour. No multiple shows. And the tours were larger, so there were a lot more than 10 shows to select from.
Seniority has only ever come into play with seat location. It still does for reserved seats. The advent of GA in the US mitigates seniority's worth to an extent, but the inability to get tickets has zero to do with seniority or lack thereof, its strictly supply and demand and the club has swelled to a point where the demand is far greater than 15-20 years ago, and to make matters worse, the band no longer embarks on long tours that encompass the entire country (except of course the south) in one calendar year. That's the real crux of the problem...too few shows nowadays.
Despite everyone saying that senior members have better seats in reserved, those seats actually have gotten a bit worse due to GA. I do think GA makes perfect sense. It gives newer members the chance to get up front and gives us fans more available tickets, as more members can fit in the pit than if seats were there. But it definitely has pushed back reserved seating quite a bit. Not complaining, but just a fact.
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1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
back in my day we had to send a telegram carried by horseback
edit: jk, I would categorize my number as "middling"
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1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore