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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    Smellyman said:
    brianlux said:



    That's likey the truth.  When they start banning plastic bottles for water and when those for-profit water bottling companies, in some cases are allowed to drain water from our lakes for next to nothing (nestle come to mind) go out of business, then I'll take the plastic straw ban as serious...everyone pretty much has safe cleaning drinking water in western society...go to a Costco, people walk out of those places with bottled like they drink a case a day...lmfao.
    million times this.  My moms fridge is full of small plastic water bottles.  I drink from the tap, but she thinks 'it tastes funny'.

    Filter it for F's sake than
    Yes, there are plenty of options for filtering water, everything from Brita to a system installed under your sink work.  That is why I laugh at the environmentalist in the government...straws are the problem?  Plastic is the problem, ban all plastic now...

    My Dad says the same thing your Mother says...jeesh.  I think it only tastes different because of bottled water.


  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    Smellyman said:
    brianlux said:



    That's likey the truth.  When they start banning plastic bottles for water and when those for-profit water bottling companies, in some cases are allowed to drain water from our lakes for next to nothing (nestle come to mind) go out of business, then I'll take the plastic straw ban as serious...everyone pretty much has safe cleaning drinking water in western society...go to a Costco, people walk out of those places with bottled like they drink a case a day...lmfao.
    million times this.  My moms fridge is full of small plastic water bottles.  I drink from the tap, but she thinks 'it tastes funny'.

    Filter it for F's sake than
    Yes, there are plenty of options for filtering water, everything from Brita to a system installed under your sink work.  That is why I laugh at the environmentalist in the government...straws are the problem?  Plastic is the problem, ban all plastic now...

    My Dad says the same thing your Mother says...jeesh.  I think it only tastes different because of bottled water.


    I'm told that a lot of bottled waters have sodium added to make people want to drink more... so more plastic. 

    My stainless steel refillable water bottle is working just fine for when I'm out and about.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    Malaysia to ship back tonnes of plastic waste to Canada and other nations

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5324429/malaysia-ship-back-plastic-waste-canada/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational&fbclid=IwAR2DbjjUPOov3lJ2FCbW0RHXL69ku0CXax4YSTY2SaHsrZ1_WFRmihAn6Hg

    Good for them.  Dump the damn garbage on the beaches.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    Malaysia to ship back tonnes of plastic waste to Canada and other nations

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5324429/malaysia-ship-back-plastic-waste-canada/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational&fbclid=IwAR2DbjjUPOov3lJ2FCbW0RHXL69ku0CXax4YSTY2SaHsrZ1_WFRmihAn6Hg

    Good for them.  Dump the damn garbage on the beaches.  
    First world countries have a NIMBY on a national scale attitude about trash.  Give it to someone else to deal with!  Yeah, good for Malaysia.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    brianlux said:
    Malaysia to ship back tonnes of plastic waste to Canada and other nations

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5324429/malaysia-ship-back-plastic-waste-canada/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational&fbclid=IwAR2DbjjUPOov3lJ2FCbW0RHXL69ku0CXax4YSTY2SaHsrZ1_WFRmihAn6Hg

    Good for them.  Dump the damn garbage on the beaches.  
    First world countries have a NIMBY on a national scale attitude about trash.  Give it to someone else to deal with!  Yeah, good for Malaysia.
    I am glad they are sending it back...if we cannot figure out what to do with our rubbish...then the environmental movement is done.  The reason so many people like carbon taxes is because they are lazy and it makes them feel good, even though the planet is way past a point of no return.  Jeesh, the world cannot even ban plastic, even though there is overwhelming evidence that the Oceans are being destroyed...
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 10,449
    "Air pollution kills more people than smoking or wars".

    Interesting and somewhat hopeful article about the effects of air pollution and what can be done when government has the will to do it.

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-for-may-26-2019-1.5146999/air-pollution-kills-more-people-than-smoking-or-wars-1.5148264
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    "Air pollution kills more people than smoking or wars".

    Interesting and somewhat hopeful article about the effects of air pollution and what can be done when government has the will to do it.

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-for-may-26-2019-1.5146999/air-pollution-kills-more-people-than-smoking-or-wars-1.5148264
    I remember reading years ago that Flagstaff, Arizona was declared to be the last city in America with truly clean air.   ...and then it wasn't.  :frowning:  
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    Canada can expect more nations to send trash back: expert

    https://trib.al/GLMvvNb?fbclid=IwAR3Spd_PKV-aLaUWG3KmEaBO2puzD_YXZnhAbNqzEigbIp0I7ajYxFyBEcQ
    Canada is a world leader in waste production, generating more per capita than the U.S., the U.K. and Japan.

    Hey, at least we lead the world something.  I guess Canadians are not great environmentalist...


  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    Canada can expect more nations to send trash back: expert

    https://trib.al/GLMvvNb?fbclid=IwAR3Spd_PKV-aLaUWG3KmEaBO2puzD_YXZnhAbNqzEigbIp0I7ajYxFyBEcQ
    Canada is a world leader in waste production, generating more per capita than the U.S., the U.K. and Japan.

    Hey, at least we lead the world something.  I guess Canadians are not great environmentalist...


    That's because other countries are finally saying:



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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    Carnival slapped with a $20 million fine after it was caught dumping trash into the ocean, again
    https://www.businessinsider.com/carnival-pay-20-million-after-admitting-violating-settlement-2019-6?utm_content=bufferceeb6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-travel&fbclid=IwAR0Qs1XF_n-Gvcc42gEWBXTwg8YnJlsZ43-ylPseYQzG7xq7vwcIQgA4T4A

    If a city host these ships...can that city ever claim to be environmentally friendly??
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    Smugglers roam the California wilderness to illegally ship succulents to Asian markets
    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/smugglers-roam-the-california-wilderness-to-illegally-ship-succulents-to-asian-markets

    WTF.  Can Korea not grow these in a greenhouse? I guess it's easier to steal.  
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,676
    Not that this is surprising, but the Idiot in Chief still doesn't understand that weather and climate are not the same thing.

    Trump dismisses Prince Charles's climate concerns, says weather changes 'both ways'

    The president told Morgan that the meeting with Prince Charles was scheduled for 15 minutes but it ended up going on for nearly 90 minutes, adding that he pushed back on the suggestion that the U.S. must act on climate change. 

    "I did say, ‘Well, the United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics.’ And it’s even getting better because I agree with that we want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.”

    Morgan asked Trump if he accepts the widely accepted scientific findings showing the U.S. must lead the way in addressing global warming.

    “China, India, Russia, many other nations, they have not very good air, not very good water, and the sense of pollution and cleanliness,” the president continued. “If you go to certain cities — I’m not going name but I can — you can’t even breathe, and now that air is going up.”

    The host doubled down, asking the president if he believes in climate change.

    "I believe there’s a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways. Don’t forget, it used to be called 'global warming,' that wasn’t working, then it was called 'climate change.' Now it’s actually called 'extreme weather,' because with extreme weather you can’t miss," Trump said.

    Very fine weather on both sides. 

    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,676
    From my Facebook feed. Insley is my governor and one of the 300 dem candidates for president. He's a one-trick pony only focused on environmental issues, so I don't really think he has a chance in hell, and therefore I am not backing him. But he is highlighting something the DNC is up to:


    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jeffbr said:
    Not that this is surprising, but the Idiot in Chief still doesn't understand that weather and climate are not the same thing.

    Trump dismisses Prince Charles's climate concerns, says weather changes 'both ways'

    The president told Morgan that the meeting with Prince Charles was scheduled for 15 minutes but it ended up going on for nearly 90 minutes, adding that he pushed back on the suggestion that the U.S. must act on climate change. 

    "I did say, ‘Well, the United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics.’ And it’s even getting better because I agree with that we want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.”

    Morgan asked Trump if he accepts the widely accepted scientific findings showing the U.S. must lead the way in addressing global warming.

    “China, India, Russia, many other nations, they have not very good air, not very good water, and the sense of pollution and cleanliness,” the president continued. “If you go to certain cities — I’m not going name but I can — you can’t even breathe, and now that air is going up.”

    The host doubled down, asking the president if he believes in climate change.

    "I believe there’s a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways. Don’t forget, it used to be called 'global warming,' that wasn’t working, then it was called 'climate change.' Now it’s actually called 'extreme weather,' because with extreme weather you can’t miss," Trump said.

    Very fine weather on both sides. 

    how can you not be embarassed by this man? trump has no idea about anything.  he doesnt even know that weather and climate are 2 different things. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271

  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    jeffbr said:
    Not that this is surprising, but the Idiot in Chief still doesn't understand that weather and climate are not the same thing.

    Trump dismisses Prince Charles's climate concerns, says weather changes 'both ways'

    The president told Morgan that the meeting with Prince Charles was scheduled for 15 minutes but it ended up going on for nearly 90 minutes, adding that he pushed back on the suggestion that the U.S. must act on climate change. 

    "I did say, ‘Well, the United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics.’ And it’s even getting better because I agree with that we want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.”

    Morgan asked Trump if he accepts the widely accepted scientific findings showing the U.S. must lead the way in addressing global warming.

    “China, India, Russia, many other nations, they have not very good air, not very good water, and the sense of pollution and cleanliness,” the president continued. “If you go to certain cities — I’m not going name but I can — you can’t even breathe, and now that air is going up.”

    The host doubled down, asking the president if he believes in climate change.

    "I believe there’s a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways. Don’t forget, it used to be called 'global warming,' that wasn’t working, then it was called 'climate change.' Now it’s actually called 'extreme weather,' because with extreme weather you can’t miss," Trump said.

    Very fine weather on both sides. 

    how can you not be embarassed by this man? trump has no idea about anything.  he doesnt even know that weather and climate are 2 different things. 
    Yep- clueless! 

    Wait, you mean we can't just BUY our way out of every jam we get ourselves into?  :wink: 
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    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong"
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 5,283
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    brianlux said:
    jeffbr said:
    Not that this is surprising, but the Idiot in Chief still doesn't understand that weather and climate are not the same thing.

    Trump dismisses Prince Charles's climate concerns, says weather changes 'both ways'

    The president told Morgan that the meeting with Prince Charles was scheduled for 15 minutes but it ended up going on for nearly 90 minutes, adding that he pushed back on the suggestion that the U.S. must act on climate change. 

    "I did say, ‘Well, the United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics.’ And it’s even getting better because I agree with that we want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.”

    Morgan asked Trump if he accepts the widely accepted scientific findings showing the U.S. must lead the way in addressing global warming.

    “China, India, Russia, many other nations, they have not very good air, not very good water, and the sense of pollution and cleanliness,” the president continued. “If you go to certain cities — I’m not going name but I can — you can’t even breathe, and now that air is going up.”

    The host doubled down, asking the president if he believes in climate change.

    "I believe there’s a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways. Don’t forget, it used to be called 'global warming,' that wasn’t working, then it was called 'climate change.' Now it’s actually called 'extreme weather,' because with extreme weather you can’t miss," Trump said.

    Very fine weather on both sides. 

    how can you not be embarassed by this man? trump has no idea about anything.  he doesnt even know that weather and climate are 2 different things. 
    Yep- clueless! 

    Wait, you mean we can't just BUY our way out of every jam we get ourselves into?  :wink: 
    I do not think we can buy the earth health back.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    PJPOWER said:
    Never heard of these until now.  Sounds awful. 

    "Since PFAS rarely break down in the environment, they can linger in water and air for thousands of years, landing them the nickname "forever chemicals." Consuming or inhaling them means they could stay in the body for life."

    We are too clever for our own good.  I stopped using non-stick cookware years ago.  Kind of surprised I ever fell for that crap in the first place.  I picture in my head some cynical commercial saying, "Cooking with chemicals for an easier life!"  But they don't tell you, "And a shorter one too!"
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    If you think that's living, you are
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong"
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 5,283
    brianlux said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Never heard of these until now.  Sounds awful. 

    "Since PFAS rarely break down in the environment, they can linger in water and air for thousands of years, landing them the nickname "forever chemicals." Consuming or inhaling them means they could stay in the body for life."

    We are too clever for our own good.  I stopped using non-stick cookware years ago.  Kind of surprised I ever fell for that crap in the first place.  I picture in my head some cynical commercial saying, "Cooking with chemicals for an easier life!"  But they don't tell you, "And a shorter one too!"
    If you have Netflix, “The Devil We Know” about sums things up.  It’s awful...
    "At least I'm housebroken"
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Never heard of these until now.  Sounds awful. 

    "Since PFAS rarely break down in the environment, they can linger in water and air for thousands of years, landing them the nickname "forever chemicals." Consuming or inhaling them means they could stay in the body for life."

    We are too clever for our own good.  I stopped using non-stick cookware years ago.  Kind of surprised I ever fell for that crap in the first place.  I picture in my head some cynical commercial saying, "Cooking with chemicals for an easier life!"  But they don't tell you, "And a shorter one too!"
    If you have Netflix, “The Devil We Know” about sums things up.  It’s awful...
    Looks good and I'd really want to see it and I have Netflix, but they must only stream it.  My internet connection is weak so we only do DVD's.   Bummer.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271

  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    edited June 26

    Nice idea but good lord, what a bleak looking house on a bleak landscape!
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    If you think that's living, you are
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong"
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    brianlux said:

    Nice idea but good lord, what a bleak looking house on a bleak landscape!
    I like the house and ocean view...the landscape can be corrected with some creative gardening...like I said the world knows what needs to be done...
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    brianlux said:

    Nice idea but good lord, what a bleak looking house on a bleak landscape!
    I like the house and ocean view...the landscape can be corrected with some creative gardening...like I said the world knows what needs to be done...
    Yeah- use less plastic!
    "Hate your job, love your stuff
    If you think that's living, you are
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong"
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,271
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:

    Nice idea but good lord, what a bleak looking house on a bleak landscape!
    I like the house and ocean view...the landscape can be corrected with some creative gardening...like I said the world knows what needs to be done...
    Yeah- use less plastic!
    WEll that's not happening anytime soon.  You are a great example of why most people just say fuck it...presented with a least a solution for the plastic that is currently on earth, you are not happy...good luck in your crusade... 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:

    Nice idea but good lord, what a bleak looking house on a bleak landscape!
    I like the house and ocean view...the landscape can be corrected with some creative gardening...like I said the world knows what needs to be done...
    Yeah- use less plastic!
    WEll that's not happening anytime soon.  You are a great example of why most people just say fuck it...presented with a least a solution for the plastic that is currently on earth, you are not happy...good luck in your crusade... 
    I only have one crusade:

    "Hate your job, love your stuff
    If you think that's living, you are
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong"
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    edited June 26
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:

    Nice idea but good lord, what a bleak looking house on a bleak landscape!
    I like the house and ocean view...the landscape can be corrected with some creative gardening...like I said the world knows what needs to be done...
    Yeah- use less plastic!
    WEll that's not happening anytime soon.  You are a great example of why most people just say fuck it...presented with a least a solution for the plastic that is currently on earth, you are not happy...good luck in your crusade... 
    Besides which, I did say it was a good idea and YOU are always saying we need ot use less plastic.  Sounds like somebody got out of the wrong  side of the bed today, Mr.  Grumpy Meltdown!  :lol:
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    If you think that's living, you are
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong"
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 28,553
    Go Canada!

    Canada aims to ban single-use plastics by 2021

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the ban will likely include plastic bags, straws, cutlery, plates, and stir sticks.



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    If you think that's living, you are
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong"
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