Environment Canada’s response says that’s “not in alignment with scientific evidence.” It cites two studies suggesting the opposite.
Andrew Derocher, a University of Alberta polar bear expert, is blunter.
“That’s just plain wrong,” he said. “That’s been documented in many places now — not just linked to body condition but reproductive rates and survival.”
I'd like to know why so many people think that climate change is some type of leftist hoax. what would be the driver here? is the left heavily invested in the electric car? solar panels? metal straws? like, seriously, what is the benefit of this being made up?
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Environment Canada’s response says that’s “not in alignment with scientific evidence.” It cites two studies suggesting the opposite.
Andrew Derocher, a University of Alberta polar bear expert, is blunter.
“That’s just plain wrong,” he said. “That’s been documented in many places now — not just linked to body condition but reproductive rates and survival.”
I'd like to know why so many people think that climate change is some type of leftist hoax. what would be the driver here? is the left heavily invested in the electric car? solar panels? metal straws? like, seriously, what is the benefit of this being made up?
Pretty crazy denial, isn't it?! I think it's because some people are either afraid it might be true (which has already been proven by science) and/or they don't want to have to change their life style. Any denial at this point is utterly foolish and ridiculous.
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How totally ironic that one of the ads on the same page as the article is for Round Up. Way to go MSN/Post.
So we're at 415.26 PPM when anything over 350 causes greenhouse effect. Wonderful. About 12 years ago I organized a gathering on the steps of our city hall to call for congress to limit carbon in the atmosphere to 350 PPM as part of the 350.org "Step it Up" campaign. I'm not sure I could do that again.
I think we've hit the point of no return. I think much of humanity will be gone by the end of this century. And I do hope those scattered remnant human populations will have learned from our foolishness.
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How totally ironic that one of the ads on the same page as the article is for Round Up. Way to go MSN/Post.
So we're at 415.26 PPM when anything over 350 causes greenhouse effect. Wonderful. About 12 years ago I organized a gathering on the steps of our city hall to call for congress to limit carbon in the atmosphere to 350 PPM as part of the 350.org "Step it Up" campaign. I'm not sure I could do that again.
I think we've hit the point of no return. I think much of humanity will be gone by the end of this century. And I do hope those scattered remnant human populations will have learned from our foolishness.
I have long felt we are well past the point of no return...I am just here for the ride at this point. However, I am not so sure when it all ends...you figure in the next 80 years so the planet will be unliveable...you might be right. I live in southern Ontario in the great lakes region and they are dealing with extremely high water...a marina could not open for the season, yes, a marina is not safe to place for boaters to moor their boats. And I do not believe any government or any politician has the solution...just look at recycling, in Canada, we recycle less than 15%...so until we figure out what to do with our rubbish we are fucked...
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How totally ironic that one of the ads on the same page as the article is for Round Up. Way to go MSN/Post.
So we're at 415.26 PPM when anything over 350 causes greenhouse effect. Wonderful. About 12 years ago I organized a gathering on the steps of our city hall to call for congress to limit carbon in the atmosphere to 350 PPM as part of the 350.org "Step it Up" campaign. I'm not sure I could do that again.
I think we've hit the point of no return. I think much of humanity will be gone by the end of this century. And I do hope those scattered remnant human populations will have learned from our foolishness.
I have long felt we are well past the point of no return...I am just here for the ride at this point. However, I am not so sure when it all ends...you figure in the next 80 years so the planet will be unliveable...you might be right. I live in southern Ontario in the great lakes region and they are dealing with extremely high water...a marina could not open for the season, yes, a marina is not safe to place for boaters to moor their boats. And I do not believe any government or any politician has the solution...just look at recycling, in Canada, we recycle less than 15%...so until we figure out what to do with our rubbish we are fucked...
As far as humans go, I think our best hopes lie on the possibility that small scattered groups of people will survive in various places. As far as the planet goes, the hope (and I think there is at least a fairly good chance) lies in the earth's ability to heal itself in a mere million years or two (which is not long in geological time.)
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Very odd. We usually only see them in the deep water off of Montauk.
About 20 years or so a Mako was caught inside the inlet between Long Beach and Island Park. THAT was very unusual too. They said it came in with the storm at the time.
That's likey the truth. When they start banning plastic bottles for water and when those for-profit water bottling companies, in some cases are allowed to drain water from our lakes for next to nothing (nestle come to mind) go out of business, then I'll take the plastic straw ban as serious...everyone pretty much has safe cleaning drinking water in western society...go to a Costco, people walk out of those places with bottled like they drink a case a day...lmfao.
"Botswana has lifted a ban on elephant hunting, citing growing conflict
between humans and the animals, which at times destroy crops."
Quintessential anthropocentric, near sighted, myopic, and eventually self-destructive thinking. Why don't we just kill all the animals off and get it over with?
This is outrageous.
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That's if it makes it to land, the Philippines are planning on just dumping into the water...lol
Sticking with the "Let's talk about ways to make it better" part of this thread, is (as the article claims) incineration the best way to deal with this particular situation, or are there better solutions? We need good solutions to these kinds of problems!
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That's likey the truth. When they start banning plastic bottles for water and when those for-profit water bottling companies, in some cases are allowed to drain water from our lakes for next to nothing (nestle come to mind) go out of business, then I'll take the plastic straw ban as serious...everyone pretty much has safe cleaning drinking water in western society...go to a Costco, people walk out of those places with bottled like they drink a case a day...lmfao.
million times this. My moms fridge is full of small plastic water bottles. I drink from the tap, but she thinks 'it tastes funny'.
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/landmark-un-plastic-waste-pact-gets-approved-but-not-by-u-s-1.4418335?fbclid=IwAR3X4EOq21E_1Zwy2gDldV5rlDzatXXXHKMy1nFynhxCBWT_ajokLMO2eeM
That is a surprise...
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
perfect plastic
-EV 8/14/93
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
https://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/14/trash-including-plastic-bag-found-deepest-ocean-point-earth/3664885002/?fbclid=IwAR3BeD9Q0bOyiLi440fjztktn5KHHsCWn9kV6HiLIH1Jw-JSxLHXNzb_IsM
It is probably a never-ending debate.
Andrew Derocher, a University of Alberta polar bear expert, is blunter.
“That’s just plain wrong,” he said. “That’s been documented in many places now — not just linked to body condition but reproductive rates and survival.”
I'd like to know why so many people think that climate change is some type of leftist hoax. what would be the driver here? is the left heavily invested in the electric car? solar panels? metal straws? like, seriously, what is the benefit of this being made up?
-EV 8/14/93
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/it-was-84-degrees-near-the-arctic-ocean-this-weekend-as-carbon-dioxide-hit-its-highest-level-in-human-history/ar-AABlBAQ?fbclid=IwAR1EPKkwLsuijtv5U1kAVSD_nhZa-uTHSl45sVrCOLqoIsSJhwAxf0EkMmc
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?cid=sm:trueanthem:ctvnews:post&clipId=1687047&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5ce25ea072c13d0001eb93e1&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1eH3g87iGfgdiOLhLRTX8FsSsHiepwVnbAmx5ij538aG_YDuQXD7fAllA
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/great-white-shark-spotted-in-long-island-sound-for-first-time-ever-researchers/ar-AABDSCY?ocid=sf
interesting...
About 20 years or so a Mako was caught inside the inlet between Long Beach and Island Park. THAT was very unusual too. They said it came in with the storm at the time.
I say boo to that.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
https://trib.al/VHAWKbS?fbclid=IwAR3moywVli9EBbXhH8Aq0HpINjO_wjyOSlgbuKtlRtCs75X0aKtvKlslZzs
The sooner the human race goes extinct is better...because that is the only way the earth stands a chance...
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/scientists-discover-china-has-been-secretly-emitting-banned-ozone-depleting-gas?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2D63qffDzSwfsTN5C0YhnfIOQAiMEk8oXCGxE70WjegzEBX9tjYD4oeu8#Echobox=1558550088
Just shocking, not China...no way, they must have it wrong...
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48374880?ns_campaign=bbcnews&ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1OrPik0tZP3Z9bqsH0wsXuR-t6vKVxDmZLqry_YWnxXu9vZudzBEvRUdU&fbclid=IwAR1kzyyyFnGufmHVevY5tFdFSQS2j8gVV3Llq1atpIT2QSnVUmuMeU76ezY&fbclid=IwAR2QHPPwJHr2BY7C5izKK7LW8QYE7xCSPH5XcoN3F08HtaMzk2tY0IcNYfk
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/philippines-garbage-canada-1.5149645?fbclid=IwAR0aoazlfR5fNEGPT16ty0bsfGO7hhJN2Bin7j7G9EySd7Xfkb0yHlnwXjo
That's if it makes it to land, the Philippines are planning on just dumping into the water...lol
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"