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I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.If I had known then what I know now...
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Pretty good summation, imalive, that could of saved us several pages on this thread. :-)imalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
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Again, not to get to far off topic, but I think we can all agree that disaster preparedness is very sensible.Cosmo said:
...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I could have been- but not with any malice. If you are feeling like you need to prepare for an impending disaster, that is your prerogative. I'd also say that to live life preparing for a societal meltdown is not- to my way of thinking- living life as it is intended.unsung said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you one of those that gave me a hard time for being a prepper?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You don't think that there are inherent problems with people being 'selective' with regards to which laws they think they should comply with and which laws they shouldn't?unsung said:And please, please, don't insult me with the bs of the anarchy that would ensure if the Feds stayed out of this. We are both smarter than that.
Remember when everything sucked and the government solved all of our problems? Me neither.
You give people way too much credit.
I mean in a collapse of society will people be good or will there be people who will try to take using force?
I'm saying in a complete collapse there would be problems, and that is unlike what would happen if the Feds became limited to the Constitution.
What does it have to do with my post you quoted though? If people followed rules and regulations... the 'impending collapse' you fear will likely be thwarted. Anarchy is achieved when law and order fails to exist. When the government enforces the laws of the land... it is doing its part to prevent the bleak scenario you claim you are preparing for. You should be supportive of such measures.
I don't think anyone here has a problem with disaster preparedness. In fact, i believe we all FAVOR being prepared for localized natural disasters, such as Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Earthquakes, etc...
But, we also think that only crazy people store up arms and supplies for a Zombie Apocalypse, Alien Invasion and Extinction Level Event.
As for breakdown of civilization preparedness, some of the most sensible things I've heard on that topic are from a couple of Richard Heinberg's books in which he talks about how in those times people who work together in a cooperative manner will fair far better individual survivalists or small bands of thuggish survivalists no matter how well they are armed. In his book The Party's Over he says:
The strategy of individualist survivalism wil likely offer only temporary and uncertain refuge... True individual and family security will come only with community solidarity and interdependence. p. 234
A lot of this is explained in detail in this book as well as in Power Down and Peak Everything.
Heinberg's books are good reads with good information and good advices.
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thisimalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
and this asshat riding around holding an american flag is truly offensive0 -
Eh not offensive. Hell America was founded on lying and steeling land.norm said:
thisimalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
and this asshat riding around holding an american flag is truly offensive
Okay everybody sing with me. "This land is your land, this land is my land......."
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I see you've been hitting the gin and tonics already, Callen. ;-)callen said:
Eh not offensive. Hell America was founded on lying and steeling land.norm said:
thisimalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
and this asshat riding around holding an american flag is truly offensive
Okay everybody sing with me. "This land is your land, this land is my land......."
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...callen said:
Eh not offensive. Hell America was founded on lying and steeling land.norm said:
thisimalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
and this asshat riding around holding an american flag is truly offensive
Okay everybody sing with me. "This land is your land, this land is my land......."
As I went walking I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
But on the other side it didn't say nothing,
That side was made for you and me.
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California to the New York Island
From the redwood forests to the Gulf Stream waters.
This land was made for you and me.
In the shadow of the steeple I saw my people,
By the relief office I seen my people;
As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking
Is this land made for you and me?
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Note: Those are the actual lyrics that Woody Guthrie wrote... but never made it to the schools songbooks. It just didn't seem right that the little school kids should be singing about reality.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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...brianlux said:Again, not to get to far off topic, but I think we can all agree that disaster preparedness is very sensible.
As for breakdown of civilization preparedness, some of the most sensible things I've heard on that topic are from a couple of Richard Heinberg's books in which he talks about how in those times people who work together in a cooperative manner will fair far better individual survivalists or small bands of thuggish survivalists no matter how well they are armed. In his book The Party's Over he says:
The strategy of individualist survivalism wil likely offer only temporary and uncertain refuge... True individual and family security will come only with community solidarity and interdependence. p. 234
A lot of this is explained in detail in this book as well as in Power Down and Peak Everything.
Heinberg's books are good reads with good information and good advices.
I would hope to believe that in case of a disaster... I would share with those people seeking water and a bite to eat. Every disaster eventually passes. We cannot call ourselves a civilization, if we are not civil towards each other.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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brianlux said:
I see you've been hitting the gin and tonics already, Callen. ;-)callen said:
Eh not offensive. Hell America was founded on lying and steeling land.norm said:
thisimalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
and this asshat riding around holding an american flag is truly offensive
Okay everybody sing with me. "This land is your land, this land is my land......."
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An interesting point. People are mad about the USA stealing lands from the native Americans. And some people are not mad about the USA stealing lands from the native Americans.callen said:
Eh not offensive. Hell America was founded on lying and steeling land.norm said:
thisimalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
and this asshat riding around holding an american flag is truly offensive
Okay everybody sing with me. "This land is your land, this land is my land......."
Now someone is trying to steal lands away from the USA and thus the irony in opinions.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Well asked for single tall but believe I was served a double tall. HA.brianlux said:
I see you've been hitting the gin and tonics already, Callen. ;-)callen said:
Eh not offensive. Hell America was founded on lying and steeling land.norm said:
thisimalive said:I'm not reading all this shit but I'm well acquainted with bunkerville and having lived in Nevada and Utah I'm well acquainted with the dumbfucks screaming about the "Feds." I'll guaran-fucking-tee you Mr. Bundy just doesn't like sharing any of his sizeable fortune. Buncha dumb asses.
and this asshat riding around holding an american flag is truly offensive
Okay everybody sing with me. "This land is your land, this land is my land......."
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hasnt paid in twenty years? Hmm, kinda coincides with a decline in beef consumption AND prices in the early to mid nineties. reaching its lowest point in 98.
http://beefmagazine.com/blog/us-beef-industry-has-measured-every-challenge
http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-2859/AGEC-603web.pdf
http://www.employmentpolicy.org/sites/www.employmentpolicy.org/files/When Chickens Devoured Cows October 26 2012.pdfPost edited by mickeyrat on_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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And maybe the other 52 made a wise business decision? Oh, the efficiencies of the market economy. Nice, now get your cattle of MY land and pay your back grazing fees, Mr. Bundy.
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um, well...yeah...so there's this
He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-thecaucus&_r=10 -
Wow.
I had much more that I deleted.
Just wow."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Clive Bundy Clive Bundy
He was a fighter,
a fearless and mighty adventurin' man!
Oh no... wait, that was Jim Bowie. Ooops! #-o"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I won't say what I was going to say. Maybe tomorrow.
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well well well, what do you know?
another conservative racist with a cause glorified by fox news....
seriously, the REAL conservatives out there need to reign people like this in. if you keep giving them a platform the gop will never ever win the white house again."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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