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  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    I don't think it seems contradictory. I understand. The flu vaccine is made based on the best guesstimate of which variety of the disease will be most prevalent. Some times they get it right, and some times not so much. Last year's vaccine was right on. I admit I haven't investigated this year's vaccine as much. But the vaccine in last year's shot was for the flu strain that killed my brother-in-law. And I don't know if it would have saved him or not, but it is certainly a chance I would have liked him to take.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    And in an unusual twist, there apparently is an outbreak of mumps among NHL players. 11 players at this point have mumps, which is serious in post-pubertal males as it can lead to inflammation of the testes with reduction in fertility and even infertility. Cases of mumps have been on the rise in recent years, like all of these childhood infectious diseases that had been essentially wiped out in North America prior to the reductions in vaccination rates.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/12/12/sidney-crosby-mumps_n_6317476.html
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    I should probably apologize for any rancor I've shown towards anyone on this particular thread but I find it very difficult to discuss this topic in an unemotional way. I'll just leave it at this, thanks to all who present their point of view for it gives me (and all of us) a lot of information to better make informed choices. I guess that's all that can be said at the end of the day is to research, research, research and hope that we can all make the choices that are best for each of us.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    Additionally, Crosby, like many players, reportedly received the mumps vaccine before leaving for the Olympics in February. Though the vaccination is going to protect a lot of people against the disease, it has a lower effectiveness rate compared to other vaccinations.

    “Mumps is a little bit challenging for us in that the effectiveness of the vaccine is a little bit lower for some of the other diseases,” Wallace told CBSSports.com. “We do occasionally see some limited outbreaks in groups that tend to have a high two-dose vaccine coverage. The virus can out-compete the vaccine.”

    Vaccinations have not been able to wipe out mumps like they have other viruses, so exposure to the virus still leaves those at risk.

    “If you have a team and their staff consists of 100 people and they all get exposed,” Dr. Wallace said, ”you could have 10, 12, 15 cases even if everyone is vaccinated. “
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited December 2014
    I don't think the government provides the vaccine because in the best interest of everyone, I think the public health department makes it a priority because it is in the best interest of everyone.
    riotgrl said:

    I should probably apologize for any rancor I've shown towards anyone on this particular thread but I find it very difficult to discuss this topic in an unemotional way. I'll just leave it at this, thanks to all who present their point of view for it gives me (and all of us) a lot of information to better make informed choices. I guess that's all that can be said at the end of the day is to research, research, research and hope that we can all make the choices that are best for each of us.

    …and the best for others around us as well.
  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    oftenreading said:

    And in an unusual twist, there apparently is an outbreak of mumps among NHL players. 11 players at this point have mumps, which is serious in post-pubertal males as it can lead to inflammation of the testes with reduction in fertility and even infertility. Cases of mumps have been on the rise in recent years, like all of these childhood infectious diseases that had been essentially wiped out in North America prior to the reductions in vaccination rates.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/12/12/sidney-crosby-mumps_n_6317476.html

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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    backseatLover12 said:

    I don't think the government provides the vaccine because in the best interest of everyone, I think the public health department makes it a priority because it is in the best interest of everyone.

    riotgrl said:

    I should probably apologize for any rancor I've shown towards anyone on this particular thread but I find it very difficult to discuss this topic in an unemotional way. I'll just leave it at this, thanks to all who present their point of view for it gives me (and all of us) a lot of information to better make informed choices. I guess that's all that can be said at the end of the day is to research, research, research and hope that we can all make the choices that are best for each of us.

    …and the best for others around us as well.
    Yes, you've mentioned this numerous times. The flu shot is not the only means of protection. You can choose to use more natural, less harmful methods. The use of elderberry syrup as a means of protecting against, and reducing the duration of the flu if you happen to get it, is just as effective as the flu shot without the harmful side effects.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    riotgrl said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    I don't think the government provides the vaccine because in the best interest of everyone, I think the public health department makes it a priority because it is in the best interest of everyone.

    riotgrl said:

    I should probably apologize for any rancor I've shown towards anyone on this particular thread but I find it very difficult to discuss this topic in an unemotional way. I'll just leave it at this, thanks to all who present their point of view for it gives me (and all of us) a lot of information to better make informed choices. I guess that's all that can be said at the end of the day is to research, research, research and hope that we can all make the choices that are best for each of us.

    …and the best for others around us as well.
    Yes, you've mentioned this numerous times. The flu shot is not the only means of protection. You can choose to use more natural, less harmful methods. The use of elderberry syrup as a means of protecting against, and reducing the duration of the flu if you happen to get it, is just as effective as the flu shot without the harmful side effects.
    Except that you can still pass it along to others who may be immunocompromised.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    This is a perfect breakdown for this topic. I encourage everyone to take a look.


    https://medium.com/the-nib/vaccines-work-here-are-the-facts-5de3d0f9ffd0


  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    dignin wrote: »
    This is a perfect breakdown for this topic. I encourage everyone to take a look.<br />
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    https://medium.com/the-nib/vaccines-work-here-are-the-facts-5de3d0f9ffd0

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    Giving flu shots to schoolchildren also protects others, a new study finds.The effect of schoolbased vaccination was profound, both on the students and on the community,” lead author Cuc Tran, a doctoral student in public health at the University of Florida, said in a university news release. http://consumer.healthday.com/infectious-disease-information-21/flu-news-314/vaccinating-school-kids-reduces-flu-in-community-study-694520.html
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