I tuned into Duck Dynasty a few times over the last few days.
I really don't see how that show can be that popular. Just absolute stupidity. It's obviously scripted...about as far away from reality TV as you can get.
This one episode I saw had one of the morons losing his wedding ring in the swamp. Si had a metal detector back home so he goes back to get it. As he's walking out of the shed with it it goes off and he just happens to remember that he buried a can of coins at the spot in his yard 40 years ago so they ditch the wedding band search and dig up the can.
Meanwhile the other morons give up the search on their own and decide to get a tattoo of a wedding band but the moron is afraid of needles. Then lo and behold the moron conveniently finds the wedding band in his pocket and the show is over as they all gather around the dinner table.
The commentary they deliver in between scenes is so goddamn stupid I can't handle it.
My brother, who, possibly not coincidentally agrees with Phil's take on homosexuality, was telling me last night about this very episode, and I thought, how can a scenario like that NOT be scripted??? It sounded so utterly moronic. And my brother, a very imtelligEnt person despite his religious bigotry issues, loves this show.
Thing is, everyone finds different things entertaining. I used to love WWF/WWE. People laughed at me for how utterly stupid it was, and therefor by extension this made me stupid. Also, my sister, another very intelligent professional, watches every reality show and American karaoke show there is.
Let's try not to judge those by what they watch, and more by what they do themselves.
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I tuned into Duck Dynasty a few times over the last few days.
I really don't see how that show can be that popular. Just absolute stupidity. It's obviously scripted...about as far away from reality TV as you can get.
This one episode I saw had one of the morons losing his wedding ring in the swamp. Si had a metal detector back home so he goes back to get it. As he's walking out of the shed with it it goes off and he just happens to remember that he buried a can of coins at the spot in his yard 40 years ago so they ditch the wedding band search and dig up the can.
Meanwhile the other morons give up the search on their own and decide to get a tattoo of a wedding band but the moron is afraid of needles. Then lo and behold the moron conveniently finds the wedding band in his pocket and the show is over as they all gather around the dinner table.
The commentary they deliver in between scenes is so goddamn stupid I can't handle it.
My brother, who, possibly not coincidentally agrees with Phil's take on homosexuality, was telling me last night about this very episode, and I thought, how can a scenario like that NOT be scripted??? It sounded so utterly moronic. And my brother, a very imtelligEnt person despite his religious bigotry issues, loves this show.
Thing is, everyone finds different things entertaining. I used to love WWF/WWE. People laughed at me for how utterly stupid it was, and therefor by extension this made me stupid. Also, my sister, another very intelligent professional, watches every reality show and American karaoke show there is.
Let's try not to judge those by what they watch, and more by what they do themselves.
Fair enough, but I wonder exactly what it is about these types of shows that suck people in? I mean if the show actually showed a bunch of backwater morons and their follies... it might be entertaining, but the obvious scripted element to them makes the show seem like baseline entertainment at best.
My brother, who, possibly not coincidentally agrees with Phil's take on homosexuality, was telling me last night about this very episode, and I thought, how can a scenario like that NOT be scripted??? It sounded so utterly moronic. And my brother, a very imtelligEnt person despite his religious bigotry issues, loves this show.
Thing is, everyone finds different things entertaining. I used to love WWF/WWE. People laughed at me for how utterly stupid it was, and therefor by extension this made me stupid. Also, my sister, another very intelligent professional, watches every reality show and American karaoke show there is.
Let's try not to judge those by what they watch, and more by what they do themselves.
Watching is doing, sitting on the couch is doing. If you spend your time watching every reality and karaoke show, that's basically what you're doing. If you make your life by choosing to watch someone elses? That's you doing nothing. (not you personally, your sister's)
Fair enough, but I wonder exactly what it is about these types of shows that suck people in? I mean if the show actually showed a bunch of backwater morons and their follies... it might be entertaining, but the obvious scripted element to them makes the show seem like baseline entertainment at best.
It's psychological manipulation and the fact that there's nothing intelligent on tv else to watch. And the choice of sitting and watching tv.
My brother, who, possibly not coincidentally agrees with Phil's take on homosexuality, was telling me last night about this very episode, and I thought, how can a scenario like that NOT be scripted??? It sounded so utterly moronic. And my brother, a very imtelligEnt person despite his religious bigotry issues, loves this show.
Thing is, everyone finds different things entertaining. I used to love WWF/WWE. People laughed at me for how utterly stupid it was, and therefor by extension this made me stupid. Also, my sister, another very intelligent professional, watches every reality show and American karaoke show there is.
Let's try not to judge those by what they watch, and more by what they do themselves.
Watching is doing, sitting on the couch is doing. If you spend your time watching every reality and karaoke show, that's basically what you're doing. If you make your life by choosing to watch someone elses? That's you doing nothing. (not you personally, your sister's)
For some tv is for thought provocation, for some it's entertainment, and for some it's escapism and further still for some it's to shut their brain off from life. I think that's the draw for some of these shows. And no, it's not my sisters whole existence, it's her time between her son's bed time and hers. Some people read trashy romance novels, some spend endless amounts of time talking to strangers on the internet about what others watch on tv, and some just watch tv. How is one possibly better or worse than another??
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My brother, who, possibly not coincidentally agrees with Phil's take on homosexuality, was telling me last night about this very episode, and I thought, how can a scenario like that NOT be scripted??? It sounded so utterly moronic. And my brother, a very imtelligEnt person despite his religious bigotry issues, loves this show.
Thing is, everyone finds different things entertaining. I used to love WWF/WWE. People laughed at me for how utterly stupid it was, and therefor by extension this made me stupid. Also, my sister, another very intelligent professional, watches every reality show and American karaoke show there is.
Let's try not to judge those by what they watch, and more by what they do themselves.
Watching is doing, sitting on the couch is doing. If you spend your time watching every reality and karaoke show, that's basically what you're doing. If you make your life by choosing to watch someone elses? That's you doing nothing. (not you personally, your sister's)
For some tv is for thought provocation, for some it's entertainment, and for some it's escapism and further still for some it's to shut their brain off from life. I think that's the draw for some of these shows. And no, it's not my sisters whole existence, it's her time between her son's bed time and hers. Some people read trashy romance novels, some spend endless amounts of time talking to strangers on the internet about what others watch on tv, and some just watch tv. How is one possibly better or worse than another??
Touche, but I challenge my beliefs and learn from others from debating online, I (and everyone else) turn to jello vegging out to reality tv. It serves no other purpose.
I get that some is contrived. I also get that some of everything is contrived; videos, twitter, PR, "news" segments, Hollywood, politics.
And on.
That quote about focusing on other, more important things...isn't that correct? All this furor over his words - not his actions, least from what I know - and he's saying to shift energy to issues that really matter.
(and from what I've read, the family is quite charitable)
I feel pretty good saying that I'm not an idiot, hateful or misguided. Most people I know, whom I respect and who respect me, would neither attribute those qualities to me nor write me off for watching a television show.
I (and everyone else) turn to jello vegging out to reality tv. It serves no other purpose.
And that exact same argument could be made by someone who watches reality tv about someone who watches a pearl jam DVD more than once. Or watches any type of game show. Or soap opera. Or sports. My point is every single person falls into this same category of watching some type of brain numbing entertainment. So none of us have any more right to judge someone for the content they find entertaining than anyone else.
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I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
Awesome attempt to derail the thread with your regressive way of thinking.
Bet you think homosexuality is a liberal choice as well
Wasn't trying to derail the thread. I don't post much on the Train so itsn't like I'm out here trying to push an agenda. The point of my post was clear in that liberals are bashing Republicans in this thread for their "backward thinking" and it seemed ironic to me considering that liberals support legalized killing of babies. That is the truth and even you can't disagree with it because there is a law on the books that liberals got on the books for abortion.
If you can't recognize that a legacy of dead babies is fucked up, then I don't know what to say. Just like you can't understand a Christians views based on the Bible, some of us can't understand supporting abortion.
Anyway, we all deserve a little criticism when we get to high and might, holier than thou, etc... so I just wanted to send the liberals a reminder that they still support baby killin' so nobody is perfect.
Just because someone bashes a Republicans doesn't mean they are liberal. I bash Republicans a lot and I am not liberal.
Just thought I'd clarify that.
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"..and his comments that really were nothing to get your panties in a wad over....
Godfather.
I guess that just means you are okay with the inaccurate generalizations he made...and by that I mean him thinking all African-Americans were happy and did not hate whites before Civil Rights.
I know he said he personally never saw them unhappy, but he also stated all were happy, too.
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or you can come to terms and realize
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makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Why is everyone saying he is ignorant amd uneducated? He has a college degree amd started a multimillion dollar business. Not very ignorant or uneducated. And the use of the term redneck in these posts is bigoted. Not just non-white non-Christian homosexuals can be offended.
Why is everyone saying he is ignorant amd uneducated? He has a college degree amd started a multimillion dollar business. Not very ignorant or uneducated. And the use of the term redneck in these posts is bigoted. Not just non-white non-Christian homosexuals can be offended.
nice post !, but on the AMT most people think a person is a biggot or a racist if they don't agree with majority here...kind of funny how they sling the same hate and biggotry that they accuse others of but to them they are "always right". but calling someone uneducated and redneck or using the term dick dynasty is no different than useing the words fag, nigger,white trash or raghead to discribe someone else,infact there will sure as hell be someone on here will be offended because of these words I used to make a point...but that's the train. :fp:
I wonder what percentage of people either defiling or defending Duck Dynasty have read the article including on this thread or nation wide? I'm guessing 10% ... let me check my Magic 8-Ball ... just a second ... the Magic 8-Ball saith: "As I see it: Yes".
"..and his comments that really were nothing to get your panties in a wad over....
Godfather.
I guess that just means you are okay with the inaccurate generalizations he made...and by that I mean him thinking all African-Americans were happy and did not hate whites before Civil Rights.
I know he said he personally never saw them unhappy, but he also stated all were happy, too.
really man he said that and you find it offensive ? so all the black's he knew or knows are happy ....so what ? this is getting like a modern day witch hunt,why don't people start diesecting jessie jacksons or al sharpton comments and lets see what we can make of them.
heres the thing as far as I can see it, whatever thats worth anyway.
He exercised his freedom to speak his opinion. Dont like it? good. Fact is he can say what he wants, up to yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.
A+E exercised their right to suspend or otherwise fire an employee for expressing those views as a rep OF their network. Make no mistake, him sitting for that interview wasnt going to happen without him being on that show. So therefore, interviewed as a cast member, put him in a bind. Speak his mind freely? or use a little more sense in what of his opinion to share. I might have chosen a little more tact.
Personally I think we are still generations away from these thoughts and attitudes as a prevailing way of thinking in some areas of the country. Personally I think there will ALWAYS be some degree of it.
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I wonder what percentage of people either defiling or defending Duck Dynasty have read the article including on this thread or nation wide? I'm guessing 10% ... let me check my Magic 8-Ball ... just a second ... the Magic 8-Ball saith: "As I see it: Yes".
and this what got everybody so pissy ?...
Phil Robertson-Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers-they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."
and everybody act's like Phil is the only one who ever said this :fp:
I wonder what percentage of people either defiling or defending Duck Dynasty have read the article including on this thread or nation wide? I'm guessing 10% ... let me check my Magic 8-Ball ... just a second ... the Magic 8-Ball saith: "As I see it: Yes".
and this what got everybody so pissy ?...
Phil Robertson-Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers-they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."
and everybody act's like Phil is the only one who ever said this :fp:
Godfather.
Certainly not the first, no. Had he left it at "the adulterers, the idolaters, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers" he might have been OK. He probably could have even argued away "the male prostitutes." But "the homosexual offenders?" That's over the top.
I wonder what percentage of people either defiling or defending Duck Dynasty have read the article including on this thread or nation wide? I'm guessing 10% ... let me check my Magic 8-Ball ... just a second ... the Magic 8-Ball saith: "As I see it: Yes".
and this what got everybody so pissy ?...
Phil Robertson-Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers-they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."
and everybody act's like Phil is the only one who ever said this :fp:
Godfather.
Certainly not the first, no. Had he left it at "the adulterers, the idolaters, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers" he might have been OK. He probably could have even argued away "the male prostitutes." But "the homosexual offenders?" That's over the top.
." But "the homosexual offenders?" That's over the top.[/quote]
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"..and his comments that really were nothing to get your panties in a wad over....
Godfather.
I guess that just means you are okay with the inaccurate generalizations he made...and by that I mean him thinking all African-Americans were happy and did not hate whites before Civil Rights.
I know he said he personally never saw them unhappy, but he also stated all were happy, too.
really man he said that and you find it offensive ? so all the black's he knew or knows are happy ....so what ? this is getting like a modern day witch hunt,why don't people start diesecting jessie jacksons or al sharpton comments and lets see what we can make of them.
Godfather.
I'm not offended he said he personally saw no black people sad or that were racist. That is great!
BUT!
Then he said ALL blacks lived okay before civil rights. THAT was stupid and ignorant.
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You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
." But "the homosexual offenders?" That's over the top.
why ?
Godfather.
Because what exactly is a homosexual offender? And what sets them apart from a heterosexual offender? Isn't their only offense the fact that they are homosexual? That is no offense at all.
." But "the homosexual offenders?" That's over the top.
why ?
Godfather.
Because what exactly is a homosexual offender? And what sets them apart from a heterosexual offender? Isn't their only offense the fact that they are homosexual? That is no offense at all.
honestly my friend that is a matter of opinion,just as adultry is an offense and that's where he seemed to be coming from with that,to a Christian they are both offenses.
I started seeing pictures of some of the "cast" before they grew their beards long. This show is a total fake.
Hats off to them for coming up with the idea and transforming themselves into bearded rednecks but that's not who they are (at least the kids).
Interesting thought. Come up with something that gets peoples attention (negative or positive) and cash in. Great idea if one is into "we're only in it for the money" (thank you, Mr. Zappa ) but not such a good idea for anyone with any scruples.
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My brother, who, possibly not coincidentally agrees with Phil's take on homosexuality, was telling me last night about this very episode, and I thought, how can a scenario like that NOT be scripted??? It sounded so utterly moronic. And my brother, a very imtelligEnt person despite his religious bigotry issues, loves this show.
Thing is, everyone finds different things entertaining. I used to love WWF/WWE. People laughed at me for how utterly stupid it was, and therefor by extension this made me stupid. Also, my sister, another very intelligent professional, watches every reality show and American karaoke show there is.
Let's try not to judge those by what they watch, and more by what they do themselves.
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Fair enough, but I wonder exactly what it is about these types of shows that suck people in? I mean if the show actually showed a bunch of backwater morons and their follies... it might be entertaining, but the obvious scripted element to them makes the show seem like baseline entertainment at best.
Watching is doing, sitting on the couch is doing. If you spend your time watching every reality and karaoke show, that's basically what you're doing. If you make your life by choosing to watch someone elses? That's you doing nothing. (not you personally, your sister's)
It's psychological manipulation and the fact that there's nothing intelligent on tv else to watch. And the choice of sitting and watching tv.
For some tv is for thought provocation, for some it's entertainment, and for some it's escapism and further still for some it's to shut their brain off from life. I think that's the draw for some of these shows. And no, it's not my sisters whole existence, it's her time between her son's bed time and hers. Some people read trashy romance novels, some spend endless amounts of time talking to strangers on the internet about what others watch on tv, and some just watch tv. How is one possibly better or worse than another??
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Touche, but I challenge my beliefs and learn from others from debating online, I (and everyone else) turn to jello vegging out to reality tv. It serves no other purpose.
I watch the show on occasion and enjoy it.
I get that some is contrived. I also get that some of everything is contrived; videos, twitter, PR, "news" segments, Hollywood, politics.
And on.
That quote about focusing on other, more important things...isn't that correct? All this furor over his words - not his actions, least from what I know - and he's saying to shift energy to issues that really matter.
(and from what I've read, the family is quite charitable)
I feel pretty good saying that I'm not an idiot, hateful or misguided. Most people I know, whom I respect and who respect me, would neither attribute those qualities to me nor write me off for watching a television show.
And that exact same argument could be made by someone who watches reality tv about someone who watches a pearl jam DVD more than once. Or watches any type of game show. Or soap opera. Or sports. My point is every single person falls into this same category of watching some type of brain numbing entertainment. So none of us have any more right to judge someone for the content they find entertaining than anyone else.
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Just because someone bashes a Republicans doesn't mean they are liberal. I bash Republicans a lot and I am not liberal.
Just thought I'd clarify that.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
I guess that just means you are okay with the inaccurate generalizations he made...and by that I mean him thinking all African-Americans were happy and did not hate whites before Civil Rights.
I know he said he personally never saw them unhappy, but he also stated all were happy, too.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
nice post !, but on the AMT most people think a person is a biggot or a racist if they don't agree with majority here...kind of funny how they sling the same hate and biggotry that they accuse others of but to them they are "always right". but calling someone uneducated and redneck or using the term dick dynasty is no different than useing the words fag, nigger,white trash or raghead to discribe someone else,infact there will sure as hell be someone on here will be offended because of these words I used to make a point...but that's the train. :fp:
Godfather.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/sarah-palin-defended-duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-without-180606033.html
I wonder what percentage of people either defiling or defending Duck Dynasty have read the article including on this thread or nation wide? I'm guessing 10% ... let me check my Magic 8-Ball ... just a second ... the Magic 8-Ball saith: "As I see it: Yes".
really man he said that and you find it offensive ? so all the black's he knew or knows are happy ....so what ? this is getting like a modern day witch hunt,why don't people start diesecting jessie jacksons or al sharpton comments and lets see what we can make of them.
Godfather.
He exercised his freedom to speak his opinion. Dont like it? good. Fact is he can say what he wants, up to yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.
A+E exercised their right to suspend or otherwise fire an employee for expressing those views as a rep OF their network. Make no mistake, him sitting for that interview wasnt going to happen without him being on that show. So therefore, interviewed as a cast member, put him in a bind. Speak his mind freely? or use a little more sense in what of his opinion to share. I might have chosen a little more tact.
Personally I think we are still generations away from these thoughts and attitudes as a prevailing way of thinking in some areas of the country. Personally I think there will ALWAYS be some degree of it.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
If God is really up there... he'd kinda speed up this process so we can all move on. Right?
and this what got everybody so pissy ?...
Phil Robertson-Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers-they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."
and everybody act's like Phil is the only one who ever said this :fp:
Godfather.
-Paul Westerberg
Certainly not the first, no. Had he left it at "the adulterers, the idolaters, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers" he might have been OK. He probably could have even argued away "the male prostitutes." But "the homosexual offenders?" That's over the top.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
." But "the homosexual offenders?" That's over the top.[/quote]
why ?
Godfather.
http://www.catholic.org/national/nation ... &wf=rsscol
interesting read.
Godfather.
I'm not offended he said he personally saw no black people sad or that were racist. That is great!
BUT!
Then he said ALL blacks lived okay before civil rights. THAT was stupid and ignorant.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Because what exactly is a homosexual offender? And what sets them apart from a heterosexual offender? Isn't their only offense the fact that they are homosexual? That is no offense at all.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
honestly my friend that is a matter of opinion,just as adultry is an offense and that's where he seemed to be coming from with that,to a Christian they are both offenses.
Godfather.
Hats off to them for coming up with the idea and transforming themselves into bearded rednecks but that's not who they are (at least the kids).
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Interesting thought. Come up with something that gets peoples attention (negative or positive) and cash in. Great idea if one is into "we're only in it for the money" (thank you, Mr. Zappa
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