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A&E has suspended Duck dynasty patriarch Phil Roberstson for anti gay remarks he made. He said "it seems like, to me, a vagina -as a man- would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: Tjeres more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on dudes. You know what I'm saying?"
As ignorant as I think these comments are, this guy has the right to think them and say them. I guess A&E has the right to suspend him as well. Which brings me to my question, who actually owns the show? Its a reality show. Does the camera crew not shoot him for a month? Or does he just get edited out of the show for a while??
A&E doesn't have the balls to cancel the show due to its 11.8 million viewers. Seems a bit hypocritical to just suspend the guy if you don't want to be associated with anti gay remarks. But then again, should the show get cancelled because the guy is exercising his freedom of speech?
the entire statement can be found here:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain ... 9736.story
As ignorant as I think these comments are, this guy has the right to think them and say them. I guess A&E has the right to suspend him as well. Which brings me to my question, who actually owns the show? Its a reality show. Does the camera crew not shoot him for a month? Or does he just get edited out of the show for a while??
A&E doesn't have the balls to cancel the show due to its 11.8 million viewers. Seems a bit hypocritical to just suspend the guy if you don't want to be associated with anti gay remarks. But then again, should the show get cancelled because the guy is exercising his freedom of speech?
the entire statement can be found here:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain ... 9736.story
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A&E pays him... he is basically an employee. But, he is also a spokesman of the television show that A&E pays for.
Ther First Amendment only applies to the Government restricting our expressed opinions. It does not apply to individuals or employers taking actions on other individuals or employees.
Hail, Hail!!!
the interviewer gave the guy a little rope, and he hanged himself.
end of story.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Pro-vagina maybe.. but not anti-gay..
He never said its wrong or bad to be gay.. he just said he likes girls..
so the dude likes vagina more than male butts.. what is the big deal?
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain ... 9736.story
I thought that was all the dude said..
You really put me out there with my pants around my ankles..
Ya, he is anti-gay.. I retract my previous statement..
I respect his rights, I dont agree, and his bosses should be allowed to do whatever they like with him..
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but when the main face of a corporate entity talks like this, that corporation has a duty to act or it will face a pr nightmare that they might not recover from. i am thinking it is not just the quotes on gays and lesbians, but he insulted muslims, and any group of people that are not christian as well.
Phil on sin:
“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”
Phil on letting God do the judging:
“We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”
Phil on what happens to society without Jesus:
“All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. I’ll give you four: Nazis, no Jesus. Look at their record. Uh, Shintos? They started this thing in Pearl Harbor. Any Jesus among them? None. Communists? None. Islamists? Zero. That’s eighty years of ideologies that have popped up where no Jesus was allowed among those four groups. Just look at the records as far as murder goes among those four groups.”
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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i am like you, i have no interest in it either.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Hail, Hail!!!
Don't let the real stuff like NDAA, the federal reserve, NSA, patriot act, TSA, politicians not upholding their oaths, runaway spending, and reckless monetary policy bother you. That stuff would make people actually think, and I firmly believe most people want to be dumb.
Sucks, doesn't it?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
And just for the record, I don't agree with his statement.
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this is about money, advertising, and sponsorships.
nothing more.
the network is always, always, going to look out for its bottom line. nothing worse than having a network that people don't watch.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Oh Prince, you know I love you. Agree with you 100%.
He exercised his right to say what he believes, and the people he offended have the right to call him an asshole.
Simple as that.
You can't expect to say anything you want without possible backlash.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Well, it is an attack on free speech. Except this is case one is suffering from the use of that speech. He has the right to speak his mind, even if he says something dumb, and his employer has the right to do what they did.
In the end it's another non-issue, and another non-issue that if the groups on BOTH sides of this debate used similar energy to change important issues, that I've previously mentioned, and then we might really improve society.
It's like the cake makers in Colorado, they absolutely have the right to deny making a cake for anyone, no matter what. But then these people in return have the right to protest them and picket them into going out of business.
I am VERY disturbed that a judge ordered them to bake the cake, that is a clear violation of the First Amendment.
No hair off Duck Commanders back on this. They own a multi-million dollar business that can't be killed off by politically correct distributors.
A&E lost by far their highest rated program and are left with a bunch of underperforming shows. So who is the real loser?
But I'm not. I support his right to say those things and I support the show's right to fire him for whatever reason it wants.
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Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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If A&E is serious, they would cancel next season where Phil will star in every episode. But they won't because they will lose a ton of money. It is the highest rated cable show in history after all.