Crackerbarrel did an about-face two days after stating they were going to stop selling Duck Dynasty items.
Wal-mart is sold-out of all D.D. items. The Robertson family has a merchandise empire that is estimated by Forbes to be worth about $400million - and their deal with Walmart makes up around half of this.
Of course they did. Because money to the bottom line trumps everything.
Crackerbarrel did an about-face two days after stating they were going to stop selling Duck Dynasty items.
Wal-mart is sold-out of all D.D. items. The Robertson family has a merchandise empire that is estimated by Forbes to be worth about $400million - and their deal with Walmart makes up around half of this.
I stoped at wal-mart (first time years) and that place if FULL of DD stuff...clothing-dinner plates-toys-games....you can't hardly go down an isle without seeing DD something ...now that's genious marketing.
I'm happy happy happy to report that I have seen the same hardcover, like new $2.00 copy of Phil Robertson's book, Happy Happy Happy, sitting on the same shelf in the same thrift store for about 10 days and no one has touched it- not even booksellers like myself who could turn it over for a quick profit.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I don't have tv so I've never seen the show, my only comment is that I find it extremely disturbing that this is what it takes to get people in an uproar. A comment from a reality tv guy.
Don't let the real stuff like NDAA, the federal reserve, NSA, patriot act, TSA, politicians not upholding their oaths, runaway spending, and reckless monetary policy bother you. That stuff would make people actually think, and I firmly believe most people want to be dumb.
Absolutely and 100% true.
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It's really not that complicated. A&E obviously wants to make it clear to their viewers that they do not support his views, hence the suspension. Had they not, they would have been highly criticized in the media for "supporting" them. Because lets face it, in the eyes of society, if you aren't vocal in your disdain for someone, that means you agree with them. They had a duty to let their shareholders and advertisers know that they don't support his views.
It has nothing to do with people "listening to celebrities". This guy has a platform of 12 million people, so when people have heard what he said, it creates an immediate dialog, whether you like it or not. Had this happened on live tv with an anonymous nobody being interviewed, the backlash would be the same. The difference is, he gets paid to entertain people, and some think he shouldn't get paid nor be given that platform (or increase the viewership and profits) of the network who employs him) because of bigoted comments in an interview.and it won't go away until he pays a public price, since he reaps his living off the public.
Ignoring the idiocy of celebrities won't make them go away. Public embarrassment and shaming usually does. Unless you are in that elite group of stupid known as "socialite".
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It's really not that complicated. A&E obviously wants to make it clear to their viewers that they do not support his views, hence the suspension. Had they not, they would have been highly criticized in the media for "supporting" them. Because lets face it, in the eyes of society, if you aren't vocal in your disdain for someone, that means you agree with them. They had a duty to let their shareholders and advertisers know that they don't support his views.
It has nothing to do with people "listening to celebrities". This guy has a platform of 12 million people, so when people have heard what he said, it creates an immediate dialog, whether you like it or not. Had this happened on live tv with an anonymous nobody being interviewed, the backlash would be the same. The difference is, he gets paid to entertain people, and some think he shouldn't get paid nor be given that platform (or increase the viewership and profits) of the network who employs him) because of bigoted comments in an interview.and it won't go away until he pays a public price, since he reaps his living off the public.
Ignoring the idiocy of celebrities won't make them go away. Public embarrassment and shaming usually does. Unless you are in that elite group of stupid known as "socialite".
and this is how they take care of business at A&E.
yes it's a Fox artical but I have been watching(Christmas with the Robertson's) and "Papa Phil" is still there so this story must have some straight info to it.
A&E may have given “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson the heave-ho when they suspended him from future episodes of the show last week, but the network is still welcoming him home for holidays.
The channel is celebrating Christmas with a staggering 25 consecutive episodes of their No. 1 show, beginning at 3:30 p.m. on Christmas Day and running until the wee hours of Dec. 26.
According to the schedule on A&E’s website, the Robertsons will take over the channel until 4 a.m., and then paid programming —meaning infomercials—will kick in.
And don’t think controversial papa Phil will be left out of the Christmas Day airings. He is a key character in plenty of the episodes scheduled to air, including “Quack-O-Lantern” and “Drag me to Glory.”
For Christmas, A&E is just giving the fans what they want, said Cate Meighan, senior writer for Celeb Dirty Laundry.
“I think, honestly, it’s A&E trying to play both sides of the coin,” she said. “They’ve come out and not supported Phil’s statements… however they’re also looking at the backlash from the fans, and they have a huge amount of backlash from the fans.”
It's really not that complicated. A&E obviously wants to make it clear to their viewers that they do not support his views, hence the suspension. Had they not, they would have been highly criticized in the media for "supporting" them. Because lets face it, in the eyes of society, if you aren't vocal in your disdain for someone, that means you agree with them. They had a duty to let their shareholders and advertisers know that they don't support his views.
It has nothing to do with people "listening to celebrities". This guy has a platform of 12 million people, so when people have heard what he said, it creates an immediate dialog, whether you like it or not. Had this happened on live tv with an anonymous nobody being interviewed, the backlash would be the same. The difference is, he gets paid to entertain people, and some think he shouldn't get paid nor be given that platform (or increase the viewership and profits) of the network who employs him) because of bigoted comments in an interview.and it won't go away until he pays a public price, since he reaps his living off the public.
Ignoring the idiocy of celebrities won't make them go away. Public embarrassment and shaming usually does. Unless you are in that elite group of stupid known as "socialite".
Good point. Public embarrassment and shaming though? That only equates to "bad publicity is still publicity". There's no such thing as public embarrassment anymore, unless you get called out publicly by Eddie Vedder at a show, and you happen to idolize the man.
It's really not that complicated. A&E obviously wants to make it clear to their viewers that they do not support his views, hence the suspension. Had they not, they would have been highly criticized in the media for "supporting" them. Because lets face it, in the eyes of society, if you aren't vocal in your disdain for someone, that means you agree with them. They had a duty to let their shareholders and advertisers know that they don't support his views.
It has nothing to do with people "listening to celebrities". This guy has a platform of 12 million people, so when people have heard what he said, it creates an immediate dialog, whether you like it or not. Had this happened on live tv with an anonymous nobody being interviewed, the backlash would be the same. The difference is, he gets paid to entertain people, and some think he shouldn't get paid nor be given that platform (or increase the viewership and profits) of the network who employs him) because of bigoted comments in an interview.and it won't go away until he pays a public price, since he reaps his living off the public.
Ignoring the idiocy of celebrities won't make them go away. Public embarrassment and shaming usually does. Unless you are in that elite group of stupid known as "socialite".
Good point. Public embarrassment and shaming though? That only equates to "bad publicity is still publicity". There's no such thing as public embarrassment anymore, unless you get called out publicly by Eddie Vedder at a show, and you happen to idolize the man.
All I meant by shaming was by doing what a and e already did, which was distancing themselves from him.
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Before the liberals get too high and mighty in this thread, they should check out pictures of late term abortions that they support. Talk about barbaric.
this has nothing at all to do with abortion. not even close. this situation is a company punishing one of its employees for embarrassing the company. this is not a free speech issue because the constitution only protects you from the government throwing your ass in jail for what you say. it does not prevent a company from punishing you or firing you for what you say.
but since you brought up abortion, i will speak on behalf of all liberals when i say that we do not like abortion. we do not like the procedure. we do not like how it is done. we do not like the fact that a fetus dies as a result. it is a terrible, unfortunate, thing. but we support a woman's right to choose what happens within her own body. it is a rights issue. the government can not force a woman to carry a fetus to term. and that is why i will always fight for women's reproductive rights. if men could carry a baby, abortion would have never, ever, been illegal in the first place. anybody that thinks liberals "like" abortion is an idiot.
I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
Before the liberals get too high and mighty in this thread, they should check out pictures of late term abortions that they support. Talk about barbaric.
this has nothing at all to do with abortion. not even close. this situation is a company punishing one of its employees for embarrassing the company. this is not a free speech issue because the constitution only protects you from the government throwing your ass in jail for what you say. it does not prevent a company from punishing you or firing you for what you say.
but since you brought up abortion, i will speak on behalf of all liberals when i say that we do not like abortion. we do not like the procedure. we do not like how it is done. we do not like the fact that a fetus dies as a result. it is a terrible, unfortunate, thing. but we support a woman's right to choose what happens within her own body. it is a rights issue. the government can not force a woman to carry a fetus to term. and that is why i will always fight for women's reproductive rights. if men could carry a baby, abortion would have never, ever, been illegal in the first place. anybody that thinks liberals "like" abortion is an idiot.
I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
Awesome attempt to derail the thread with your regressive way of thinking.
Bet you think homosexuality is a liberal choice as well
I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
Awesome attempt to derail the thread with your regressive way of thinking.
Bet you think homosexuality is a liberal choice as well
Wasn't trying to derail the thread. I don't post much on the Train so itsn't like I'm out here trying to push an agenda. The point of my post was clear in that liberals are bashing Republicans in this thread for their "backward thinking" and it seemed ironic to me considering that liberals support legalized killing of babies. That is the truth and even you can't disagree with it because there is a law on the books that liberals got on the books for abortion.
If you can't recognize that a legacy of dead babies is fucked up, then I don't know what to say. Just like you can't understand a Christians views based on the Bible, some of us can't understand supporting abortion.
Anyway, we all deserve a little criticism when we get to high and might, holier than thou, etc... so I just wanted to send the liberals a reminder that they still support baby killin' so nobody is perfect.
Wasn't trying to derail the thread. I don't post much on the Train so itsn't like I'm out here trying to push an agenda. The point of my post was clear in that liberals are bashing Republicans in this thread for their "backward thinking" and it seemed ironic to me considering that liberals support legalized killing of babies. That is the truth and even you can't disagree with it because there is a law on the books that liberals got on the books for abortion.
If you can't recognize that a legacy of dead babies is fucked up, then I don't know what to say. Just like you can't understand a Christians views based on the Bible, some of us can't understand supporting abortion.
Anyway, we all deserve a little criticism when we get to high and might, holier than thou, etc... so I just wanted to send the liberals a reminder that they still support baby killin' so nobody is perfect.
We'll I guess since you are a paying member of a website of an organization that supports a woman's right to choose, you are also supporting the cause.better go to confession and let the child molester know you have sinned.
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I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
Awesome attempt to derail the thread with your regressive way of thinking.
Bet you think homosexuality is a liberal choice as well
Wasn't trying to derail the thread. I don't post much on the Train so itsn't like I'm out here trying to push an agenda. The point of my post was clear in that liberals are bashing Republicans in this thread for their "backward thinking" and it seemed ironic to me considering that liberals support legalized killing of babies. That is the truth and even you can't disagree with it because there is a law on the books that liberals got on the books for abortion.
If you can't recognize that a legacy of dead babies is fucked up, then I don't know what to say. Just like you can't understand a Christians views based on the Bible, some of us can't understand supporting abortion.
Anyway, we all deserve a little criticism when we get to high and might, holier than thou, etc... so I just wanted to send the liberals a reminder that they still support baby killin' so nobody is perfect.
That entire post shows the same ignorance that got that piece of trash duck fucker in trouble in the first place.
I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
Awesome attempt to derail the thread with your regressive way of thinking.
Bet you think homosexuality is a liberal choice as well
Wasn't trying to derail the thread. I don't post much on the Train so itsn't like I'm out here trying to push an agenda. The point of my post was clear in that liberals are bashing Republicans in this thread for their "backward thinking" and it seemed ironic to me considering that liberals support legalized killing of babies. That is the truth and even you can't disagree with it because there is a law on the books that liberals got on the books for abortion.
If you can't recognize that a legacy of dead babies is fucked up, then I don't know what to say. Just like you can't understand a Christians views based on the Bible, some of us can't understand supporting abortion.
Anyway, we all deserve a little criticism when we get to high and might, holier than thou, etc... so I just wanted to send the liberals a reminder that they still support baby killin' so nobody is perfect.
Not trying to derail the thread? ?? SERIOUSLY?
Not trying to push an agenda?? REALLY?
And yes by paying to be on the site of an organization that openly and vigorously supports a woman's right to choose you are also supporting that stance.
You are also supporting a group that supports gay marriage as well as other liberal issues and agendas.
-The fact that Roberson has so many followers is yet again another reason for concern about the falling levels of intelligence in people (at least in this case, Americans), and the persistence of sexism, racism and bigotry in this society. I must have been very naive to once have thought we might become more enlightened and more aware, and more accepting and embracing of diversity- it seems just the opposite is happening. :( Please, tell me I'm wrong!
I can't tell you that you are wrong! But I think as a whole we are more enlightened as a society, but there is an element fighting tooth and nail for the "old ways". There are many "Christian'" whites who identify with Robertson, i.e. the Republican base of rural, poor white voters. (Yes I know there are rich Republicans, but there aren't enough of them to be a base). They share his views. There is still a lot of bigotry, sexism in this group. But I think it is less about stupidity than fear, stoked by the right wing idiots at Fox, Rush Limbaugh, and the like. These people are threatened by the loss of their favored status as white Christians and threatened by a pluralistic society where they are not the privileged ones. Thus the worry about the so-called war on Christmas, their disdain for the phrase "Happy Holidays", and their insistence that Robertson' hate speech is fine, because that's what their bible says.
And to respond to the earlier post about whether all Christians are bigots, I'd say that they certainly are not. Some of my more liberal friends are fairly religious Christians who actually are quite progressive in their views. But the modern day hypocritical christians who are most vocal about their faith while they rob you blind, yes, most of them are failry bigoted.
Before the liberals get too high and mighty in this thread, they should check out pictures of late term abortions that they support. Talk about barbaric.
this has nothing at all to do with abortion. not even close. this situation is a company punishing one of its employees for embarrassing the company. this is not a free speech issue because the constitution only protects you from the government throwing your ass in jail for what you say. it does not prevent a company from punishing you or firing you for what you say.
but since you brought up abortion, i will speak on behalf of all liberals when i say that we do not like abortion. we do not like the procedure. we do not like how it is done. we do not like the fact that a fetus dies as a result. it is a terrible, unfortunate, thing. but we support a woman's right to choose what happens within her own body. it is a rights issue. the government can not force a woman to carry a fetus to term. and that is why i will always fight for women's reproductive rights. if men could carry a baby, abortion would have never, ever, been illegal in the first place. anybody that thinks liberals "like" abortion is an idiot.
I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
I understand your view on abortion. What I don't understand is your view that your opinion should outweigh that of any pregnant woman making a decision about it. I don't think that mine does.
As far as "brutal killing", yes I don't like that. Most abortion, largely done before a fetus or embryo or fetus can feel pain, doesn't qualify. Late term abortion involves the balancing of a woman's rights and a fetus's, and the born woman wins, in my opinion. Factory farming and modern slaughterhouses do their fair share of brutal killing of billions of animal a year. If this is what you oppose, not becase of your religious belief that a human life begins at conception, I sure hope that you are a vegan. Otherwise, I will point out your own hypocrisy
and who's fault is is that the vets are losing their benefits?
yep, paul ryan and the republicans. look no further than those guys. robertson is trying to shift focus away from himself. he is a multi multi millionaire, i am sure he can "adopt" a few vets and their families if he wanted to. fuck this guy.
how about this for a solution. as a society, let's all try to stop making fucking stupid people famous. can we at least agree on that?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
and who's fault is is that the vets are losing their benefits?
yep, paul ryan and the republicans. look no further than those guys. robertson is trying to shift focus away from himself. he is a multi multi millionaire, i am sure he can "adopt" a few vets and their families if he wanted to. fuck this guy.
how about this for a solution. as a society, let's all try to stop making fucking stupid people famous. can we at least agree on that?
Agreed
Maybe celebrities can also stop using veterans to try and further their own agenda ...
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man you guy's are all over the board with hate and nasty comments....so tell me what makes you and your own brand of hate towards Phil Robertson so pure and special ? and his comments that really were nothing to get your panties in a wad over....and come to think of it didn't one of you tell me to get my info from a more reliable source other than the media ? it sure seems to me that this whole bullshit story is a story born of the media ......welcome to the bottom of the boat you and been hooked and reeled in but don't feel alone jesse jackson decided he couldn't let this white millionare redneck opertunity just slip by without saying something but then again jessee makes his living on the political stage whinning and pulling the race card every chance he get's so I guess we can't blame him for doing that and least his son kept the race card in check while he ripped-off the tax payers :fp:
I'm sorry this is a "duck roast" and has nothing to do with real issues in the world...just the comments by one man that have been blown out of control by a small group of people that need something to complain about while thier president ,congressmen and mayors smoke crack and run this country into the $$$ ground with the promice of "free health care"....for those that can't afford it(people that work the system and illegal's)
I tuned into Duck Dynasty a few times over the last few days.
I really don't see how that show can be that popular. Just absolute stupidity. It's obviously scripted...about as far away from reality TV as you can get.
This one episode I saw had one of the morons losing his wedding ring in the swamp. Si had a metal detector back home so he goes back to get it. As he's walking out of the shed with it it goes off and he just happens to remember that he buried a can of coins at the spot in his yard 40 years ago so they ditch the wedding band search and dig up the can.
Meanwhile the other morons give up the search on their own and decide to get a tattoo of a wedding band but the moron is afraid of needles. Then lo and behold the moron conveniently finds the wedding band in his pocket and the show is over as they all gather around the dinner table.
The commentary they deliver in between scenes is so goddamn stupid I can't handle it.
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and who's fault is is that the vets are losing their benefits?
yep, paul ryan and the republicans. look no further than those guys. robertson is trying to shift focus away from himself. he is a multi multi millionaire, i am sure he can "adopt" a few vets and their families if he wanted to. fuck this guy.
how about this for a solution. as a society, let's all try to stop making fucking stupid people famous. can we at least agree on that?
I agree with you, man. But it's just nice that this guy is standing up and telling people to stop idolizing him. It's a first step. But yeah, with the millions he's making, he could be donating it to the Vet fund.
I tuned into Duck Dynasty a few times over the last few days.
I really don't see how that show can be that popular. Just absolute stupidity. It's obviously scripted...about as far away from reality TV as you can get.
This one episode I saw had one of the morons losing his wedding ring in the swamp. Si had a metal detector back home so he goes back to get it. As he's walking out of the shed with it it goes off and he just happens to remember that he buried a can of coins at the spot in his yard 40 years ago so they ditch the wedding band search and dig up the can.
Meanwhile the other morons give up the search on their own and decide to get a tattoo of a wedding band but the moron is afraid of needles. Then lo and behold the moron conveniently finds the wedding band in his pocket and the show is over as they all gather around the dinner table.
The commentary they deliver in between scenes is so goddamn stupid I can't handle it.
It is stupid. What does one exactly expect from reality TV other than to veg out to someone's else's dull life?
The whole concept of television may be for entertainment, but it's become more a vehicle of "stupid" entertainment, a "dumbing down" of society so to speak. Don't even get me started about the dumbing down of America through the commercials! We all have a choice of shutting it all off.
i was thinking of starting my own porn production company and basing my first line of films on duck dynasty. instead of making duck calls, the family will make women's sexual toys. the guys will all wear these big fake beards, and the women will be much hotter than the women in the show. i am gonna call it "Dick Dynasty"...
can you imagine? that series of films will practically write itself. i could make millions...
unfortunately, Prince of Dorkness might have already beaten me to it...
:fp: :fp:
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i was thinking of starting my own porn production company and basing my first line of films on duck dynasty. instead of making duck calls, the family will make women's sexual toys. the guys will all wear these big fake beards, and the women will be much hotter than the women in the show. i am gonna call it "Dick Dynasty"...
can you imagine? that series of films will practically write itself. i could make millions...
unfortunately, Prince of Dorkness might have already beaten me to it...
:fp: :fp:
Now we're getting creative!
Of course there's always this option as well:
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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Of course they did. Because money to the bottom line trumps everything.
I stoped at wal-mart (first time years) and that place if FULL of DD stuff...clothing-dinner plates-toys-games....you can't hardly go down an isle without seeing DD something ...now that's genious marketing.
Godfather.
Absolutely and 100% true.
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It has nothing to do with people "listening to celebrities". This guy has a platform of 12 million people, so when people have heard what he said, it creates an immediate dialog, whether you like it or not. Had this happened on live tv with an anonymous nobody being interviewed, the backlash would be the same. The difference is, he gets paid to entertain people, and some think he shouldn't get paid nor be given that platform (or increase the viewership and profits) of the network who employs him) because of bigoted comments in an interview.and it won't go away until he pays a public price, since he reaps his living off the public.
Ignoring the idiocy of celebrities won't make them go away. Public embarrassment and shaming usually does. Unless you are in that elite group of stupid known as "socialite".
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and this is how they take care of business at A&E.
yes it's a Fox artical but I have been watching(Christmas with the Robertson's) and "Papa Phil" is still there so this story must have some straight info to it.
Godfather.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... p=features
A&E may have given “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson the heave-ho when they suspended him from future episodes of the show last week, but the network is still welcoming him home for holidays.
The channel is celebrating Christmas with a staggering 25 consecutive episodes of their No. 1 show, beginning at 3:30 p.m. on Christmas Day and running until the wee hours of Dec. 26.
According to the schedule on A&E’s website, the Robertsons will take over the channel until 4 a.m., and then paid programming —meaning infomercials—will kick in.
And don’t think controversial papa Phil will be left out of the Christmas Day airings. He is a key character in plenty of the episodes scheduled to air, including “Quack-O-Lantern” and “Drag me to Glory.”
For Christmas, A&E is just giving the fans what they want, said Cate Meighan, senior writer for Celeb Dirty Laundry.
“I think, honestly, it’s A&E trying to play both sides of the coin,” she said. “They’ve come out and not supported Phil’s statements… however they’re also looking at the backlash from the fans, and they have a huge amount of backlash from the fans.”
Good point. Public embarrassment and shaming though? That only equates to "bad publicity is still publicity". There's no such thing as public embarrassment anymore, unless you get called out publicly by Eddie Vedder at a show, and you happen to idolize the man.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
All I meant by shaming was by doing what a and e already did, which was distancing themselves from him.
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I know this thread wasn't about abortion, but Republicans were getting trashed in it so I just wanted to clarify that each side has problems. I understand the liberal belief of freedom of choice, but at the end of the day liberals protect laws that kill innocent babies in brutal fashion. Yes, liberals have their reasons, but facts are facts and you can't deny that millions of babies have been killed legally due to liberals' votes. I'm just stating facts here. I never said liberals like abortion, but they certainly support it and it is a record/history that they cannot run from or try to justify away. Legalized brutality - not a legacy I would want to leave behind and that is what the liberals have chosen. I hope the freedom of choice is worth it. Did not realize choice/options trumped life (unless safety of the mother is involved).
Awesome attempt to derail the thread with your regressive way of thinking.
Bet you think homosexuality is a liberal choice as well
Wasn't trying to derail the thread. I don't post much on the Train so itsn't like I'm out here trying to push an agenda. The point of my post was clear in that liberals are bashing Republicans in this thread for their "backward thinking" and it seemed ironic to me considering that liberals support legalized killing of babies. That is the truth and even you can't disagree with it because there is a law on the books that liberals got on the books for abortion.
If you can't recognize that a legacy of dead babies is fucked up, then I don't know what to say. Just like you can't understand a Christians views based on the Bible, some of us can't understand supporting abortion.
Anyway, we all deserve a little criticism when we get to high and might, holier than thou, etc... so I just wanted to send the liberals a reminder that they still support baby killin' so nobody is perfect.
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We'll I guess since you are a paying member of a website of an organization that supports a woman's right to choose, you are also supporting the cause.better go to confession and let the child molester know you have sinned.
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Not trying to derail the thread? ?? SERIOUSLY?
Not trying to push an agenda?? REALLY?
And yes by paying to be on the site of an organization that openly and vigorously supports a woman's right to choose you are also supporting that stance.
You are also supporting a group that supports gay marriage as well as other liberal issues and agendas.
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I can't tell you that you are wrong! But I think as a whole we are more enlightened as a society, but there is an element fighting tooth and nail for the "old ways". There are many "Christian'" whites who identify with Robertson, i.e. the Republican base of rural, poor white voters. (Yes I know there are rich Republicans, but there aren't enough of them to be a base). They share his views. There is still a lot of bigotry, sexism in this group. But I think it is less about stupidity than fear, stoked by the right wing idiots at Fox, Rush Limbaugh, and the like. These people are threatened by the loss of their favored status as white Christians and threatened by a pluralistic society where they are not the privileged ones. Thus the worry about the so-called war on Christmas, their disdain for the phrase "Happy Holidays", and their insistence that Robertson' hate speech is fine, because that's what their bible says.
And to respond to the earlier post about whether all Christians are bigots, I'd say that they certainly are not. Some of my more liberal friends are fairly religious Christians who actually are quite progressive in their views. But the modern day hypocritical christians who are most vocal about their faith while they rob you blind, yes, most of them are failry bigoted.
I thought that was strangely hilarious. Does the guy really not know the origins of blues music, or was he making a joke?
I understand your view on abortion. What I don't understand is your view that your opinion should outweigh that of any pregnant woman making a decision about it. I don't think that mine does.
As far as "brutal killing", yes I don't like that. Most abortion, largely done before a fetus or embryo or fetus can feel pain, doesn't qualify. Late term abortion involves the balancing of a woman's rights and a fetus's, and the born woman wins, in my opinion. Factory farming and modern slaughterhouses do their fair share of brutal killing of billions of animal a year. If this is what you oppose, not becase of your religious belief that a human life begins at conception, I sure hope that you are a vegan. Otherwise, I will point out your own hypocrisy
yep, paul ryan and the republicans. look no further than those guys. robertson is trying to shift focus away from himself. he is a multi multi millionaire, i am sure he can "adopt" a few vets and their families if he wanted to. fuck this guy.
how about this for a solution. as a society, let's all try to stop making fucking stupid people famous. can we at least agree on that?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Agreed
Maybe celebrities can also stop using veterans to try and further their own agenda ...
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I'm sorry this is a "duck roast" and has nothing to do with real issues in the world...just the comments by one man that have been blown out of control by a small group of people that need something to complain about while thier president ,congressmen and mayors smoke crack and run this country into the $$$ ground with the promice of "free health care"....for those that can't afford it(people that work the system and illegal's)
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I really don't see how that show can be that popular. Just absolute stupidity. It's obviously scripted...about as far away from reality TV as you can get.
This one episode I saw had one of the morons losing his wedding ring in the swamp. Si had a metal detector back home so he goes back to get it. As he's walking out of the shed with it it goes off and he just happens to remember that he buried a can of coins at the spot in his yard 40 years ago so they ditch the wedding band search and dig up the can.
Meanwhile the other morons give up the search on their own and decide to get a tattoo of a wedding band but the moron is afraid of needles. Then lo and behold the moron conveniently finds the wedding band in his pocket and the show is over as they all gather around the dinner table.
The commentary they deliver in between scenes is so goddamn stupid I can't handle it.
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I agree with you, man. But it's just nice that this guy is standing up and telling people to stop idolizing him. It's a first step. But yeah, with the millions he's making, he could be donating it to the Vet fund.
It is stupid. What does one exactly expect from reality TV other than to veg out to someone's else's dull life?
The whole concept of television may be for entertainment, but it's become more a vehicle of "stupid" entertainment, a "dumbing down" of society so to speak. Don't even get me started about the dumbing down of America through the commercials! We all have a choice of shutting it all off.
can you imagine? that series of films will practically write itself. i could make millions...
unfortunately, Prince of Dorkness might have already beaten me to it...
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Of course there's always this option as well: