Other bands you just don't "get"

mrussel1

I never 'got' the Foo Fighters until Wasting Light came out. Prior to that, I thought they were good, interesting but a little 'poppy' for my tastes. But Wasting Light knocked me on my ass. To me, it is one of my five or so favorite albums released in the past few years.

Likewise, I don't get Arcade Fire or Radiohead. The latter never did anything for me. And the former has just become to synthesized based for me.

And speaking of another rant... I listen to a ton of new alternative rock. That's like Alt Nation, Sirius XMU, etc. And over the past year, EVERYTHING has become synth based. Are there no guitars in Rock anymore?? Can it be called alt rock without a guitar?? WTF is going on. Is it the 80's again? I hope this is just a normal oversteer of music and we'll go back to garage rock again in a few.

Driftin'Along

I have noticed that about alternative "rock" these days too. I can only hope that there is another resurgence of true guitar driven rock music coming soon. It is probably not likely though because of the differences in the music industry/culture between then and now. It's electronic based music for an electronic based generation.

Ozzie

See a few Kings of Leon and Muses out there - used to really like both, but am, sadly, bored by both now. Saying that Muse, a few years ago, were a phenomenal live act…

Now, the band i don't "get" would be Metallica. I'm just like 'meh', to them...

RatherBe

I've never knowingly heard a song by Muse. I must really be out of the loop :-?

Bevington

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Mumford

Agree. Just awful.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

RhinoJam wrote:

For me, it would have to be Phish. Not that I dont "get" it, but for me they are just not that pleasing/good in concert. I have seen them twice, and they are all musical "geniuses", but to me it seems like they start a song together, and then all ramble off and "jam" on their own for a few minutes, to at some point come back together and conclude/go on to their new song.

I get the fan following, and the gap that they fill with the Dead being gone, and the appeal for Phish and all of their dedicated fans. But from a musical, audio, and aesthetically pleasing experience I don't dig their music. They are all great musicians in their own right... but to me that means they should play with more cohesion, and not create such a jumbled sound live... it takes a lot more than just technical skill to be great musicians, and even more challenging to be great live... another reason why I love Pearl Jam so much, there is nothing better for me than a live PJ show... at a Phish show, the most appealing/interesting thing to me is the people watching not the music, and at a PJ show, it is all about the music...

anyone else feel this way about Phish?

I feel this way (sort of).

I mentioned them earlier.

Perhaps I need to 'endure' them for longer periods of time or limit my musical choices to just them on a long road trip to acquire the necessary taste for them?

There are some good people with good tastes that advocate for them soooo... there is obviously 'something' about them that is worthwhile. It's just at this point in time, I fail to see what it is.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PP22083 wrote:

I've never knowingly heard a song by Muse. I must really be out of the loop :-?

I'm new to these guys. My kid (16) listened to them and liked them. He has pretty good tastes and I never typically dismissed his suggestions, but I never really gave them much of a chance.

My buddy was trying to talk me into going and seeing them in Vancouver. I never bit, initially. After he showed me some clips from Wembley, I relinquished and we bought tickets.

GOOD MOVE.

They rocked and I am all in on these guys. A fabulous live band that sounded great, performed great, and had a great show. I will be seeing them again.

RatherBe

Hm. I guess I'll Spotify them soon.

Fifi_Ireland

Kings of leon for sure

Driftin'Along

I used to really get Kings of Leon. Their first three records are really good. The last 3, not so much. Only By the Night is the one that the masses picked up on and that ruined these guys. That record was good and everything but the first three are so much better. The last 2 albums have maybe one or two good songs between them. I am starting to jump ship on these guys too. Reading interviews with them is painful too. They just seem so full of themselves and bought into the hype too much. I have seen both sides of KoL debate.

Sarahjkjk

Can't believe people said Foo Fighters! Dave Grohl has got to be one if the nicest guys. For him to have a successful band after Nirvana is pretty amazing. The Soundgarden comments make me cry. :nono:

Soundgarden, STP (without Scott it's not the same) , Smashing Pumpkins, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Our Lady Peace, RHCP, Bush and Metallica shaped my existence.

Bands I dont get:
nickel back
Kings of Leon
Arcade fire
Coldplay

mrussel1

Ozzie wrote:

See a few Kings of Leon and Muses out there - used to really like both, but am, sadly, bored by both now. Saying that Muse, a few years ago, were a phenomenal live act…

Now, the band i don't "get" would be Metallica. I'm just like 'meh', to them...

I'm 41, so may be a bit older than you. Unfortunately, to me, Metallica has been 'meh' for about 23 years now (ironically the age of PJ). I was introduced to Metallica in 8th grade when Ride the Lightning came out and I was lucky enough to see them open for Ozzy with Cliff Burton, and about 6 times after. They ruled my music world from that album until the Black album. With that, they totally sold out in my book. And they have been sell outs since. It's a shame too, because they were awesome when everything else was lame ass hair spray rock.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mrussel1 wrote:

Ozzie wrote:

See a few Kings of Leon and Muses out there - used to really like both, but am, sadly, bored by both now. Saying that Muse, a few years ago, were a phenomenal live act…

Now, the band i don't "get" would be Metallica. I'm just like 'meh', to them...

I'm 41, so may be a bit older than you. Unfortunately, to me, Metallica has been 'meh' for about 23 years now (ironically the age of PJ). I was introduced to Metallica in 8th grade when Ride the Lightning came out and I was lucky enough to see them open for Ozzy with Cliff Burton, and about 6 times after. They ruled my music world from that album until the Black album. With that, they totally sold out in my book. And they have been sell outs since. It's a shame too, because they were awesome when everything else was lame ass hair spray rock.

I know this is consensus for a lot of the Metallica fans, but I've never understood why the Black album constitutes a sell-out? Enter Sandman was never a tune I dug very much, but Wherever I May Roam and Sad But True are classics.

Bands change. It's natural. Look at PJ for example: The Fixer is a far cry from Animal, yet their new work is seen as progression and evolution, which I wouldn't necessarily argue against.

Keeping change in mind... I'm really curious to what Tool puts on the shelves hopefully this year?

mrussel1

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

mrussel1 wrote:

Ozzie wrote:

See a few Kings of Leon and Muses out there - used to really like both, but am, sadly, bored by both now. Saying that Muse, a few years ago, were a phenomenal live act…

Now, the band i don't "get" would be Metallica. I'm just like 'meh', to them...

I'm 41, so may be a bit older than you. Unfortunately, to me, Metallica has been 'meh' for about 23 years now (ironically the age of PJ). I was introduced to Metallica in 8th grade when Ride the Lightning came out and I was lucky enough to see them open for Ozzy with Cliff Burton, and about 6 times after. They ruled my music world from that album until the Black album. With that, they totally sold out in my book. And they have been sell outs since. It's a shame too, because they were awesome when everything else was lame ass hair spray rock.

I know this is consensus for a lot of the Metallica fans, but I've never understood why the Black album constitutes a sell-out? Enter Sandman was never a tune I dug very much, but Wherever I May Roam and Sad But True are classics.

Bands change. It's natural. Look at PJ for example: The Fixer is a far cry from Animal, yet their new work is seen as progression and evolution, which I wouldn't necessarily argue against.

Keeping change in mind... I'm really curious to what Tool puts on the shelves hopefully this year?

The difference between PJ and Metallica is 'intent'... PJ did grow and change as a band and they did it organically, through age, change of life circumstances and time. Metallica did it for financial reasons. They hired the producer that did Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi in order to make them more mainstream. It worked and they got filthy rich. But think of the song differences on that album.. Nothing Else Matters?? Don't Tread on Me is the worst. It's a jingoistic pro-war song. Compare that to Disposable Orders, One, etc. That's why we die hards call them sell outs.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mrussel1 wrote:

The difference between PJ and Metallica is 'intent'... PJ did grow and change as a band and they did it organically, through age, change of life circumstances and time. Metallica did it for financial reasons. They hired the producer that did Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi in order to make them more mainstream. It worked and they got filthy rich. But think of the song differences on that album.. Nothing Else Matters?? Don't Tread on Me is the worst. It's a jingoistic pro-war song. Compare that to Disposable Orders, One, etc. That's why we die hards call them sell outs.

Valid points that speak to how some would have preferred the band to do their business.

Sell outs is such a dirty term in the rock industry. My roommate was a die hard fan and echoed the same sentiments as you, but he still liked the Black album (as did I). While it might reflect over produced, refined Metallica music that the purists have difficulty accepting... it's far from shit.

RatherBe

mrussel1 wrote:

The difference between PJ and Metallica is 'intent'... PJ did grow and change as a band and they did it organically, through age, change of life circumstances and time. Metallica did it for financial reasons. They hired the producer that did Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi in order to make them more mainstream. It worked and they got filthy rich. But think of the song differences on that album.. Nothing Else Matters?? Don't Tread on Me is the worst. It's a jingoistic pro-war song. Compare that to Disposable Orders, One, etc. That's why we die hards call them sell outs.

I agree with your sentiment about "Don't Tread on Me" (which I will not ever listen to again if I can help it), though I think of it more as pro-American propaganda than pro-war (also, it's "Disposable Heroes").

I agree to an extent about the "Black" album—after all, you don't hire Bob Rock if you want to make a thrash metal record. Despite that, I don't think the music is bad and it is surprisingly heavy for being on the radio so much.

PennyB

I don't get Marillion or ACDC, both bands that my husband likes, so I have to listen to as well :(

mrussel1

PP22083 wrote:

mrussel1 wrote:

The difference between PJ and Metallica is 'intent'... PJ did grow and change as a band and they did it organically, through age, change of life circumstances and time. Metallica did it for financial reasons. They hired the producer that did Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi in order to make them more mainstream. It worked and they got filthy rich. But think of the song differences on that album.. Nothing Else Matters?? Don't Tread on Me is the worst. It's a jingoistic pro-war song. Compare that to Disposable Orders, One, etc. That's why we die hards call them sell outs.

I agree with your sentiment about "Don't Tread on Me" (which I will not ever listen to again if I can help it), though I think of it more as pro-American propaganda than pro-war (also, it's "Disposable Heroes").

I agree to an extent about the "Black" album—after all, you don't hire Bob Rock if you want to make a thrash metal record. Despite that, I don't think the music is bad and it is surprisingly heavy for being on the radio so much.

Ha! I can't believe I said 'orders', not 'heroes. But I'm not even talking about it being trash metal. Justice wasn't thrash at all It was the subjects of the songs and more specifically the audience that they were targeting that bothered me. In fairness, I was 17 when the Black album came out, so far more judgmental on music than I am today.
But think about 'pro-american' vs the whole theme of Justice. They totally changed with that album, and it was for the purpose of selling more records. Fine, you can do that, it's your right and your career. But I don't have to like it.

RatherBe

Yeah, I remember reading a comment by them in regards to DtoM and why it wasn't contradicting AJfA; something to the effect of "When we wrote AJfA, we were writing about the scary parts of America..." I forget the other part of that statement but I remember it being something stupid.

Danalphabet

Mumford and Sons, Bon Iver and The Lumineers