*** Charlotte Fanviews Here 10/30/13 ***

critterau

Here is another during Alive I took. Again, it's choppy but hey, I don't stand still at shows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJbHcJQlXXM

mcrok

ohdeardad wrote:

TUTMAN08 wrote:

I feel compelled to weigh in on all this.

Charlotte was my 4th show of this tour. Brooklyn 1,2, Philadelphia 1 being the other 3. All were incredible but like your kids (for those of you old enough to have kids) all were different. Someone in an earlier post mentioned it is all about perspective - I agree. I loved Brooklyn 1 but that was my first concert since 2010, so yes I was stoked. Brooklyn 2 was great but we had seats behind the stage so that was a bit of a buzz kill. Philadelphia 1 was an excellent show with decent seats.

I thought Charlotte was really, really, really good. The acoustics were far better than Brooklyn and we all got to see Atomic Dog with Daughter - which I think is a first. Bee Girl was another great treat. And I personally think they took Lightening Bolt to another level last night. I love the fact that they are so confident that they can do covers as encores and Watchtower was awesome!

From my seat (Section 114 Row L -THANK YOU Ten Club!!) The crowd was really into the entire show.

Perspective . This was the first Pearl Jam show for my 23 year old and two of his friends. Their description -- "EPIC!!!!" They were so fired up and so excited - it made me happy as hell to know my kid and his friends loved it as much as, if not more than, I did.

So why do people have to analyze everything to death? And criticize? And speculate?

The band played for about 2.5 hours. They nailed the standards (Porch, Rearviewmirror, Black, Severed Hand et al) they dusted off some lesser performed songs, they did a brand new one. They poured their hearts and souls into the music and offered up a terrific show.

Certainly, we all have our favorite shows, songs, moments but to marginalize last night's performance is an insult to the band and disrespectful to everyone who had a fantastic time.

Hell the guy next to me was bummed because they didnt play Hail Hail or a Neil Young song. Really??? I mean, REALLY???

My final $0.02. We take every show and be glad there are musicians like Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, Jeff and Boom, who can get together and create so much energy and joy for so many people. Look for the good and appreciate it.


Pearl Jam - THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

Agree 100% Tutman, well said!

Hey man, these are called FANVIEWS. Do I need to explain what that means? You really shouldn't take criticism of last nite's show so personally---it is a fan's view and they are entitled to it. For the most part, everyone here clearly loves the band to death and cherishes all they have done. But if you were in Charlottesville, I think you would have seen the difference. Night and day and legitimate for many reasons. I wish you could have been in JPJ Arena that nite. Hell, I wish everyone could. Maybe someday they will start playing more small venues with better acoustics and you will witness how much better a show it is for everyone. The band always has a good time and puts on a good show. Everyone here knows that in these forums. Charlottesville just blows CLT out of the water on all levels. Sorry, it is just the truth and if they ever release the video of it...oh, you will see:) But don't get bent out of shape and put words into mouths of those who are pointing out the obvious. It is just a FAN'S VIEW. Get it? Got it? Good:)

JF241710

i did think getaway was a little tentative at first but it picked up quick, once they got past the first verse it was rocking.

awesome videos of porch and alive there

TheGossman

I was so excited when I found out the band was finally coming back to Charlotte. Last nights show was great. The band didn't seem tired at all to me, especially Ed. I've seen over 40 shows but I've never been as close to Ed as I was last night. I've never noticed just how much the guy puts into every performance. He was up there sweating his ass off, giving it his all. Jeff seemed to be in a fantastic mood, smiling and laughing all night. My only complaint is all the cell phones in the pit, people texting and taking videos really annoys the shit out of me. I understand you paid for your ticket, but holding your phones up in the air to record an entire song is disrespectful, especially when you are blocking people's view. Can't wait for Dallas and OKC

eyecanwalk

Just got home after a 9 hour drive home (slept 5-6 hours in the van) & I've seen them 60+ show(from '92 until last night)s & not one of them has ever been bad!

Even when they have a bad night or the sound was not good or what ever went on it was till always PEARL JAM !!

the good bad ugly , all worth it & last night was no exception, another great show, they will always surprise you either with a new song or a rare one, or them smashing the stage up in anger.

And that is why we drive or fly around the world to see them, we love the & they love us
thanks again PJ. see you very soon.

Plus I took 2 friends that said the didnt like PJ, but only have heard radio songs & i'm proud to say they now have 2 new fans.

curly

great post mclain....
specially how you noted...

I usually stay away from this forum (all forums for that matter), because I've learned others impressions and too high of expectations leading to negativity always left me questioning my own experience.
I decided a few years back, I don't need anyone affecting my experience.
And, it's worked well.


I've had so many mixed feelings over the years about the forum...
and it can most def affect your views and outcomes of the shows we get to see...
...its kinda like your "take your bad with your good" ol saying...
I love most everything the 10club has to offer, so i'll be with them til the end....
but its tough reading reviews of "the best night of your life"....when others are down playing it...

As we all know...pj has some of the best fans/people in the world following them...
and a many of them are on the forum...and just as many have never logged on or read a single post...

Great tour so far guys....keep it up and cant wait to hear the boots....

curly

mclain13 wrote:

TUTMAN08 wrote:

I feel compelled to weigh in on all this.

Charlotte was my 4th show of this tour. Brooklyn 1,2, Philadelphia 1 being the other 3. All were incredible but like your kids (for those of you old enough to have kids) all were different. Someone in an earlier post mentioned it is all about perspective - I agree. I loved Brooklyn 1 but that was my first concert since 2010, so yes I was stoked. Brooklyn 2 was great but we had seats behind the stage so that was a bit of a buzz kill. Philadelphia 1 was an excellent show with decent seats.

I thought Charlotte was really, really, really good. The acoustics were far better than Brooklyn and we all got to see Atomic Dog with Daughter - which I think is a first. Bee Girl was another great treat. And I personally think they took Lightening Bolt to another level last night. I love the fact that they are so confident that they can do covers as encores and Watchtower was awesome!

From my seat (Section 114 Row L -THANK YOU Ten Club!!) The crowd was really into the entire show.

Perspective . This was the first Pearl Jam show for my 23 year old and two of his friends. Their description -- "EPIC!!!!" They were so fired up and so excited - it made me happy as hell to know my kid and his friends loved it as much as, if not more than, I did.

So why do people have to analyze everything to death? And criticize? And speculate?

The band played for about 2.5 hours. They nailed the standards (Porch, Rearviewmirror, Black, Severed Hand et al) they dusted off some lesser performed songs, they did a brand new one. They poured their hearts and souls into the music and offered up a terrific show.

Certainly, we all have our favorite shows, songs, moments but to marginalize last night's performance is an insult to the band and disrespectful to everyone who had a fantastic time.

Hell the guy next to me was bummed because they didnt play Hail Hail or a Neil Young song. Really??? I mean, REALLY???

My final $0.02. We take every show and be glad there are musicians like Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, Jeff and Boom, who can get together and create so much energy and joy for so many people. Look for the good and appreciate it.


Pearl Jam - THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

I usually stay away from this forum (all forums for that matter), because I've learned others impressions and too high of expectations leading to negativity always left me questioning my own experience.
I decided a few years back, I don't need anyone affecting my experience.
And, it's worked well.
I logged on, because I had an amazing time last night and was bummed I couldn't get out of work to see the Charlottesville show, so I wanted to read about how stupid I was for not taking that day off too.
Of course, I've found out I missed out big time.
But, coming to this thread, I've again been reminded why I stay away...
TUTMAN08 helped to redeem the thread. Thanks!
Last night, I caught myself wondering, how much longer do we have...how much longer will Ed have the pipes...
It made last night more precious to me and it made me think, I better start going to more shows!
Don't get me wrong. It's not around the corner.
But, time moves fast.
And, for anyone who has kids (I have 3 boys), you know this is true.
Before we know it, songs like Spin The Black Circle won't be possible and it won't stop there...slowly they will have to move to lower key songs and while I will continue to see them until the end, the dynamic will absolutely change.
For this reason, last night was an amazing show for me...AMAZING!

mcrok

Let me say this about last nite. They could have kept playing---but they didn't. The truth is no matter how many more they played or how many rarities they played it would have not changed the energy of the show. I think they knew that and that is why they scratched 5 songs from the set. They went back out, played the popular singalongs, made the majority happy, and closed shop.

That was the quickest 2nd encore break in the history of PJ. Let's get this done and rest. It worked bc it seems most ppl are happy, they got their singalong pop songs, they got to finish with one of the shortest sets of the tour, and that is just great intuition. All the feel from the crowd (though good, not great) indicated that what was needed to be done. So if they sang the other 5 songs for the few...it wouldn't changed the dynamic of the show. Gotta appreciate that intuition.

SB62034

I've read 3 of the 6 pages of Charlotte reviews, comparisons, praise, and what I'll refrain from calling "complaints" but I guess disappointment. But some have nailed it with one word:

Perspective. Sure everyone has certain songs they want to hear or could do without, myself included.

I have the "long time, no see" perspective. Last show(s): Gorge 2006(both nights). So the bar was set high, and I didn't expect anything like those 2 shows in Charlotte. I don't expect to ever see a PJ show like those again...

But I'm still gonna go every chance I get. Like most of their music I have a new appreciation for the new album after hearing it live. Always better. I literally got chills when I listened to Pendulum in the car today!

I did check out the C'ville set list, so i was bummed when I saw they had played Release, as I guessed they wouldn't play it on this night....but then I just got excited talking to fans around me about what we hoped for and guessed they'd play...

That being said, I had one my best overall experiences for my 11th show: 3 rows off the rail, right on front of Mike!!!!!!!! He seemed to have plenty of energy...from my perspective It was a privilege watching him play up close, esp when he gets in that zone, closes his eyes, really tunes in and PLAYS THE LIVING FUCK OUT OF HIS GUITARS!

I'm so grateful to have finally seen them again...the last few songs aren't necessarily the ones I'd have put on a setlist, but aren't those surprises and constant change(part of) what we all love about Pearl Jam and keep us coming back, show after show after show?!?!?

Pendulum=Chills. Thank you Pearl Jam.

And of course, one PS: People, THINK about what a guitar pick is: A rounded triangular piece of plastic. Chill the £#%{ out!!!!!

CanuckPJGurl

Here's a thought...
Charlotte has had a lot of stupidity over noise from live music and concerts over the last couple years. The downtown hotels made a bunch of noise over their guests being disturbed and they made an 11 pm noise ordinance. Perhaps they were told we are turning the lights on at 11 pm and you are done... If it was me I would be in a less than happy mood. That could also explain the changes in the set list. They had problems here in 1996 with the fire Marshall and maybe they haven't forgotten? Perhaps we should be grateful they came out and gave us all they could, in the time they were given. "Nothing is as it Seems"...

Vytis33

Thought the setlist had a great flow to it last night. Would've loved something different in that Bee Girl spot but now I'm just being picky. Like people that comment on ONLY 30 songs. Shit, there ain't many bands that do that anymore. Enjoy it!

Also, brought two first timers and they are hooked. Best concert experience of their lives according to them.

eyecanwalk

curly wrote:

great post mclain....
specially how you noted...

I usually stay away from this forum (all forums for that matter), because I've learned others impressions and too high of expectations leading to negativity always left me questioning my own experience.
I decided a few years back, I don't need anyone affecting my experience.
And, it's worked well.


I've had so many mixed feelings over the years about the forum...
and it can most def affect your views and outcomes of the shows we get to see...
...its kinda like your "take your bad with your good" ol saying...
I love most everything the 10club has to offer, so i'll be with them til the end....
but its tough reading reviews of "the best night of your life"....when others are down playing it...

As we all know...pj has some of the best fans/people in the world following them...
and a many of them are on the forum...and just as many have never logged on or read a single post...

Great tour so far guys....keep it up and cant wait to hear the boots....

curly

mclain13 wrote:

TUTMAN08 wrote:

I feel compelled to weigh in on all this.

Charlotte was my 4th show of this tour. Brooklyn 1,2, Philadelphia 1 being the other 3. All were incredible but like your kids (for those of you old enough to have kids) all were different. Someone in an earlier post mentioned it is all about perspective - I agree. I loved Brooklyn 1 but that was my first concert since 2010, so yes I was stoked. Brooklyn 2 was great but we had seats behind the stage so that was a bit of a buzz kill. Philadelphia 1 was an excellent show with decent seats.

I thought Charlotte was really, really, really good. The acoustics were far better than Brooklyn and we all got to see Atomic Dog with Daughter - which I think is a first. Bee Girl was another great treat. And I personally think they took Lightening Bolt to another level last night. I love the fact that they are so confident that they can do covers as encores and Watchtower was awesome!

From my seat (Section 114 Row L -THANK YOU Ten Club!!) The crowd was really into the entire show.

Perspective . This was the first Pearl Jam show for my 23 year old and two of his friends. Their description -- "EPIC!!!!" They were so fired up and so excited - it made me happy as hell to know my kid and his friends loved it as much as, if not more than, I did.

So why do people have to analyze everything to death? And criticize? And speculate?

The band played for about 2.5 hours. They nailed the standards (Porch, Rearviewmirror, Black, Severed Hand et al) they dusted off some lesser performed songs, they did a brand new one. They poured their hearts and souls into the music and offered up a terrific show.

Certainly, we all have our favorite shows, songs, moments but to marginalize last night's performance is an insult to the band and disrespectful to everyone who had a fantastic time.

Hell the guy next to me was bummed because they didnt play Hail Hail or a Neil Young song. Really??? I mean, REALLY???

My final $0.02. We take every show and be glad there are musicians like Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, Jeff and Boom, who can get together and create so much energy and joy for so many people. Look for the good and appreciate it.


Pearl Jam - THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

I usually stay away from this forum (all forums for that matter), because I've learned others impressions and too high of expectations leading to negativity always left me questioning my own experience.
I decided a few years back, I don't need anyone affecting my experience.
And, it's worked well.
I logged on, because I had an amazing time last night and was bummed I couldn't get out of work to see the Charlottesville show, so I wanted to read about how stupid I was for not taking that day off too.
Of course, I've found out I missed out big time.
But, coming to this thread, I've again been reminded why I stay away...
TUTMAN08 helped to redeem the thread. Thanks!
Last night, I caught myself wondering, how much longer do we have...how much longer will Ed have the pipes...
It made last night more precious to me and it made me think, I better start going to more shows!
Don't get me wrong. It's not around the corner.
But, time moves fast.
And, for anyone who has kids (I have 3 boys), you know this is true.
Before we know it, songs like Spin The Black Circle won't be possible and it won't stop there...slowly they will have to move to lower key songs and while I will continue to see them until the end, the dynamic will absolutely change.
For this reason, last night was an amazing show for me...AMAZING!

great post mclain....& curly

you guys hit the nail on the head. I've posted here of & on for a long time & so many people just slam me for just simple things like typing a post with all caps or misspelling a word totally missing the point of my post.Little do they know i'm a quadriplegic & type with a pencil

And sometimes it's hard to not get your feelings hurt by unknown people & just want to slam them back.

I read the new york city post just to see what they played there, & if i had read the c-ville post because their not going to do play every song you want to hear I know not to get disappointing because they played longer or different songs the night before look we got a song that no one else heard but the people that were there. I dont even want to know what 5 songs were cut, IT DOES NOT MATTER! & if it really does bother you that much so what?

I got to see my favorite band play live,they rocked it like I knew they would & THATS ALL THAT SHOULD MATTER.

I just wish everyone could see your 2 posts thank you for expressing what i've always wanted to but never could put the words together like you 2 did, thanks again

plus I got to sit next to Tony Stewart so that was just extra icing on a great cake

Pearl Jam_ie

We try to take in one show per tour, so this was our one. In a way, I'm glad to not be a bit jaded from seeing the band so many times that I would even think to refer to a PJ show as "average". That show fuckin' rocked last night. 8-)


BTW, while waiting at the airport in Charlotte this morning, we ran into another Wisconsinite who was on his way home from the show too. He got Ed's wine bottle! Way cool!

FE55353

I thought last night was an amazing show. Every time I hear the band they have a tighter sound. I have listened to boots of my first 2 shows in 98 and the missed lyrics then compared to now have shown me how much better they are now.

As for the show, it was the only concert where the house lights were on before the end of the show. Charlotte must have an 11pm cutoff. The band played 1 or 2 more songs after they came on. I had never heard Bee Girl or All Along the Watchtower. Awesome surprises. The show had a mellow vibe with some scorching rockers. I think RVM should be played at every show and if Ed is reading this, it would be the song to play for a divorce.

I love this band and have no expectations of what the setlist should be or how the crowd should react. It is hard to match my energy and passion for the music and I don't expect everyone does. I thought the roof was going to come off the arena during Alive, never have felt that energy before.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. Can't wait for the next tour.

Heisenberg

2 words...Stone's Tits!!!!!

GeoScott

Since there have been quite a few posts about how terrible last nights show in Charlotte was, I suppose I shouldn't write about the absolutely incredible good time that I had. Or the way the sound moved me unlike any live show that I've ever attended.
Memories of this show will bring me smiles for years and years to come, but only because I am naive or easily impressed 8-)

radial21

4th and final show of the tour for me. I don't get some of the hate this show is getting. Sure it didn't have the set list of Charlottesville, and sure the crowd wasn't as good as philly 1 where I was at, but this was far from a bad show. The crowd here was on par with Pittsburgh and Baltimore from my perspective. While us die hard fans might appreciate the rarer songs, the majority of the Charlotte crowd was into the hits so I think the band fed off that and gave them what they wanted. Despite what most would consider a hits/singalong show, I still got to see some of my all time favorites in immortality, not for you, last exit, off he goes, and others. We saw the live debut of getaway, which was awesome by the way and got a great crowd response. The guys gave it their all and were on point as always and that's all I can ask as a fan.

It wasn't as good as philly 1, but it wasn't worse than my other 2 shows this tour of Pittsburgh and baltimore. I'd say based on the reactions that this show is going to be underrated when looked back upon.

This was the end of a fantastic 20 day run of 4 shows for me. I've now seen 21 shows dating back to 2003 and this is without a doubt the best the band has ever sounded. If I could go to another show out west I'd be all over it. They are mixing up the sets like never before. I hope everyone steps back and just appreciates what's going on, and to all you people with upcoming shows just know how jealous I am of you.

Porchsitter

TheGossman wrote:

I was so excited when I found out the band was finally coming back to Charlotte. Last nights show was great. The band didn't seem tired at all to me, especially Ed. I've seen over 40 shows but I've never been as close to Ed as I was last night. I've never noticed just how much the guy puts into every performance. He was up there sweating his ass off, giving it his all. Jeff seemed to be in a fantastic mood, smiling and laughing all night. My only complaint is all the cell phones in the pit, people texting and taking videos really annoys the shit out of me. I understand you paid for your ticket, but holding your phones up in the air to record an entire song is disrespectful, especially when you are blocking people's view. Can't wait for Dallas and OKC

I tried keeping the cell phone in the pocket as much as I could (only photos), but I will admit I recorded video on the final 90 seconds of "Porch" only because Ed was like ten feet away and that was a great moment. That being said there was one guy in my area who recorded video on damn near every song for the night. This happened to me at Soundgarden earlier this year in Atlanta, and it bugged the shit out of me as well. I try to keep it at a minimum even with pics and I'm sure people get bugged whenever I do, but I will never try to record an entire show.

mcrok

lol, fanviews are perspectives. wow, that required an explanation.

fanviews=perspective=subjective=there is no right answer as long as it logically makes sense

but according to the charlotte fanview section you can only give your view of the clt show if it was an extremely positive experience. failure to heed this advice may hurt the sensitive feelings of others about "their" show. If you loved the show and had the best experience of your life----great man, I hope so that is the point of going. If that is how you feel, who cares what someone else feels? Seems pretty weak to allow a message board opinion distort your own experience.

I gotta tell ya, I looked thru the previous threads and I don't see any "hate" about the show. just honest fanviews. you all are becoming like some religious fanatics with this type of closed mindedness. no one said the show sucked. most pointed out the band looked drained----if any of you fanatics were in CVille---you would understand our "perspective" a little better i think.

freaking Charlottesville man....what a freakin show...I still can't get over how badass it was:) oh, wrong fanview...am I going to PJ hell now?

TamaDrummer91

Fanviews are subjective, people, please keep this in mind. I posted a short review earlier, this is my long review for personal closure. :P

I went into Charlotte with moderately high expectations and good vibes. I liked the outside of the arena, the inside looked nice, staff was friendly, and I was content with with my 10C seats. All was good to begin, but I could tell after Pendulum the night was most likely going to decline. To be frank, the overall crowd was average at best and the section around me was terrible. I mean that, absolutely terrible. They stood there like trees, texted on their phones, talked very loudly to one another about 70% of the show (only shut up during Betterman so they could sing), and to beat it all...someone kept farting! It smelled horrible. :fp:

The acoustics were a bit muddy (I was in section 103, so not in the nosebleeds by any stretch) and I thought the volume from the band was way too low. During Off He Goes, I couldn't hear Ed because the asses around me were talking so loud. The setlist was ok. It had so much potential to be a really good set, but after Ed saw how much the crowd only responded to greatest hits or sing alongs; that's the route he rightfully took. I don't blame him, but as a result the encores were lacking and some of the best songs were marked off in turn.

Being at Charlottesville the night before, I can tell you how different the crowds were, how much more energetic the band sounded in Cville compared to Charlotte, and how muddy the acoustics are in the Time Warner compared to the John Paul Jones. The crowd and the band in Cville were on fire and such good spirits. Charlotte found a slightly tired band from the night before and a crowd that was huge in size but relatively small in energy. Overall, the band did sound tight, and many great songs were played. Immortality was a nice rendition and Off He Goes was great from what I could hear over the people around me talking.

I can narrow this down to 2 principles. On a bootleg, the show will hold up moderately well. But looking at what was taken off the set and having the band play for a shorter length of time when no curfew has been reported points towards the band giving the greatest hits crowd what it wanted and left as soon as they could. Was it a phoned in performance? No. But it was a terrible environment I was in, and I truly question whether the band gave it their all. In Charlottesville, there was no question about it. If you went to Charlotte and had fun, I couldn't be happier for you and I could see why you would enjoy the show if you were in a decent part of the crowd. But I have mixed feelings for the reasons aforementioned.

TheGossman

Porchsitter wrote:

TheGossman wrote:

I was so excited when I found out the band was finally coming back to Charlotte. Last nights show was great. The band didn't seem tired at all to me, especially Ed. I've seen over 40 shows but I've never been as close to Ed as I was last night. I've never noticed just how much the guy puts into every performance. He was up there sweating his ass off, giving it his all. Jeff seemed to be in a fantastic mood, smiling and laughing all night. My only complaint is all the cell phones in the pit, people texting and taking videos really annoys the shit out of me. I understand you paid for your ticket, but holding your phones up in the air to record an entire song is disrespectful, especially when you are blocking people's view. Can't wait for Dallas and OKC

I tried keeping the cell phone in the pocket as much as I could (only photos), but I will admit I recorded video on the final 90 seconds of "Porch" only because Ed was like ten feet away and that was a great moment. That being said there was one guy in my area who recorded video on damn near every song for the night. This happened to me at Soundgarden earlier this year in Atlanta, and it bugged the shit out of me as well. I try to keep it at a minimum even with pics and I'm sure people get bugged whenever I do, but I will never try to record an entire show.

I just don't get it man. Its not only disrespectful to fans that are behind you but also to the band. I saw people in the 3rd row texting, I'm just like, come on, give me your spot if you would rather stare at your phone.