"Parks and Museums Shutdown....now what?"

Go Beavers

unsung wrote:

91% of the IRS and 94% of the EPA are sitting home because they are deemed non-essential. Then why do we have so many to begin with? There's two good cuts right there.

Ideologue joy.

hedonist

Jason P wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Good words and thoughts, guys.

My dad wasn't so much about resistance or even defiance, but - I think - about the simple freedom to live peacefully no matter one's religion or lack thereof.

(now that I think about it...maybe that IS resistance)

My god though...he was so young, this newly-christened US citizen, parents still in Germany, weapon in gentle hands heading to Italy, North Africa.

I have so much respect for those who sacrificed of themselves, in any and all ways.

If you are interested in a good historical interpretation of the theatre of war in North Africa, i would recommend reading An Army at Dawn: The War in North Africa, 1942-1943, Volume One of the Liberation

Of course, check with Brianlux to see if he has any copies for sale before heading to amazon first

Thanks! I think he served there in that time before the Battle of Salerno in Sept. '43. So proud of him and all his fellow soldiers

Bronx Bombers

Jason P

Someone get Roy Wally on the blower so he can fix this mess.

JimmyV

Should we trade John Boehner for Jeff Haffley? Would we be any worse off if a character written to be a villain was actually running the House of Representatives?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... iliar.html

JimmyV

On the bright side of things, the shutdown will prevent the KKK from marching at Gettysburg.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... 76961.html

A planned Ku Klux Klan rally at a historic landmark of American history won’t happen due to the federal government shutdown.

The KKK event at Gettysburg National Military Park was canceled due to the government stalemate.

Park officials said they rescinded all permits for special events because of the shutdown that began Tuesday.

The permit had been approved for a Maryland-based KKK group, the Confederate White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, for a Saturday gathering.

Jason P

unsung wrote:

91% of the IRS and 94% of the EPA are sitting home because they are deemed non-essential. Then why do we have so many to begin with? There's two good cuts right there.

We should at least be looking at any non-essential programs and finding way to make them more efficient or make the cuts. Since our government has a current report card with an "F-" in efficiency, cuts make more sense.

I propose handing over control of all national parks and museums to the states they reside in, and then have a federal budget that supports 25% of the operating costs. The states are making money off the tourism, so it makes sense that they should be in control of it and pay for it.

This way, parks and museums would never close as they would have both state and federal funding.

Jason P

The Navy / Air Force football game may be cancelled due to the shutdown.

I thought only non-essential government programs would be shutdown ...

brianlux

Jason P wrote:

The Navy / Air Force football game may be cancelled due to the shutdown.

I thought only non-essential government programs would be shutdown ...

know1

Since the government is now shut down, I'm expecting a refund of my tax money for the money saved on salaries and operating expenses.

unsung

I just don't understand how any government thinks that POSTING SIGNS will stop people from doing what they are going to do.

PJPOWER

"This land is your land, this land is my land"...until the government shuts down.

PJPOWER

know1 wrote:

Since the government is now shut down, I'm expecting a refund of my tax money for the money saved on salaries and operating expenses.

My father in law worked for a government agency and was "furloughed" the last time the government shut down...interesting thing is that he got payed for that time off once the government opened back up.

backseatLover12

PJPOWER wrote:

know1 wrote:

Since the government is now shut down, I'm expecting a refund of my tax money for the money saved on salaries and operating expenses.

My father in law worked for a government agency and was "furloughed" the last time the government shut down...interesting thing is that he got payed for that time off once the government opened back up.

They always get paid back.

PJPOWER

backseatLover12 wrote:

PJPOWER wrote:

know1 wrote:

Since the government is now shut down, I'm expecting a refund of my tax money for the money saved on salaries and operating expenses.

My father in law worked for a government agency and was "furloughed" the last time the government shut down...interesting thing is that he got payed for that time off once the government opened back up.

They always get paid back.

I'm not sure it is the same for every agency, but it really just seemed like a free vacation.

EdsonNascimento

Jason P wrote:

Love it ... busloads of WWII vets aren't gonna let a Parks & Museums Shutdown to stop them from seeing the WWII memorial.

The rest of us should be taking some notes on how to deal with a dysfunctional group of leaders ... especially those that have planned vacations.



http://www.businessinsider.com/amid-shutdown-wwii-vets-enter-memorial-in-dc-2013-10

So funny. I was wondering how they were shutting the National Mall's Open "exhibits" down. I get that you can't get to the museum UNDER the Lincoln Memorial. But, how can you shut down an open air exhibit like the WWII memorial? And WHY would you? To prove a point? Obviously the gift shops are closed. Because Honest Abe wanted you to buy a terrible copy of his speech that can be found in every text book and on line for your kid who didn't want it in the first place. Damn!!! Where's my gift shop at, Mary Todd?

Our Government is getting dumber by the day.

JimmyV

The signs are up and the exhibits closed so that when litigious Americans jump the fences and hurt themselves they have no one but themselves to sue. Just common sense.

ledvedderman

Now what? You blame the Park Ranger obviously

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/0 ... 37524.html

Jason P

This should be over soon. I hope all the furloughed government workers have been enjoying their soon to be paid vacations.

ledvedderman

Jason P wrote:

This should be over soon. I hope all the furloughed government workers have been enjoying their soon to be paid vacations.

Sure they will get back pay, but to attribute this as a "paid vacation" is not fair. These folks have bills that are due NOW, not whenever they get paid back from the shutdown. I work for the government and I travel like crazy and it's all on my own dime until I get reimbursed...4 months later at the earliest.