qur'an & violence against women/girls

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  • aerial wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/victim-sentenced-200-lashes-by-saudi-court?cid=taboola_inbound
    here is another lovely story of a gang raped woman sentenced to 90 lashes. her lawyer appealed & spoke out to the world community bringing her lashes up to 200 in the sharia courts.

    she was in a car with a former high school student (a male) getting a photo from him & she broke the law of segregation of the sexes.

    two men then got in the car & drove them to a remote area where 5 other men were waiting. the 7 men beat & raped her & attacked her friend.

    what a wonderful place & just a smashily fantastic bunch of fucking cavemen scumbags

    her lawyer got his license taken away & will go to court in a month for announcing this case to the world's news outlets


    People on here have written paragraph after paragraph that these things do not happen....when are you going to believe that Muslims do not kill there own daughters, kill there own wives, rape little boys and stone women for being raped? just because reputable sites post the News does not mean it happened! On the MT .....

    "It is easier to fool people than It is to convince people that they have been fooled.'

    no one has EVER said these things do not happen. people just refuse to believe what you believe....that the faith/religion/culture is to blame for the atrocities that DO happen.
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    nothin wrong with this guy
    http://youtu.be/AOLy-Mo7Z54
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • AELARAAELARA Posts: 803
    aerial wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/victim-sentenced-200-lashes-by-saudi-court?cid=taboola_inbound
    here is another lovely story of a gang raped woman sentenced to 90 lashes. her lawyer appealed & spoke out to the world community bringing her lashes up to 200 in the sharia courts.

    she was in a car with a former high school student (a male) getting a photo from him & she broke the law of segregation of the sexes.

    two men then got in the car & drove them to a remote area where 5 other men were waiting. the 7 men beat & raped her & attacked her friend.

    what a wonderful place & just a smashily fantastic bunch of fucking cavemen scumbags

    her lawyer got his license taken away & will go to court in a month for announcing this case to the world's news outlets

    People on here have written paragraph after paragraph that these things do not happen....when are you going to believe that Muslims do not kill there own daughters, kill there own wives, rape little boys and stone women for being raped? just because reputable sites post the News does not mean it happened! On the MT .....

    "It is easier to fool people than It is to convince people that they have been fooled.'

    no one has EVER said these things do not happen. people just refuse to believe what you believe....that the faith/religion/culture is to blame for the atrocities that DO happen.


    Don't bother to talk the common sense. Don't you see some people in here seem to oversee logic and common sense?? They are the same people who pretend they wanna learn but at the same time the only thing they can accept are videos, articles or opinions that agree with their prefixed, ignorant view.
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  • AELARA wrote:

    Don't bother to talk the common sense. Don't you see some people in here seem to oversee logic and common sense?? They are the same people who pretend they wanna learn but at the same time the only thing they can accept are videos, articles or opinions that agree with their prefixed, ignorant view.
    +1
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    AELARA wrote:

    Don't bother to talk the common sense. Don't you see some people in here seem to oversee logic and common sense?? They are the same people who pretend they wanna learn but at the same time the only thing they can accept are videos, articles or opinions that agree with their prefixed, ignorant view.
    +1

    The Greeks making sense!!!! :D
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    what happened?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/Y-Tw7WhH_aQ
    i guess these radical dudes have honored their wives by not beating them about the head & face
    this old geezer sure is wonderful
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    this is power!
    http://youtu.be/dyuCARjzNBg

    iman ruhollah khomeini... or
    'ayatollah khomeini'
    that is the title/name i remember & know of him. this is of his death & funeral. this is moving.
    wow! powerful stuff
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    badbrains wrote:
    AELARA wrote:

    Don't bother to talk the common sense. Don't you see some people in here seem to oversee logic and common sense?? They are the same people who pretend they wanna learn but at the same time the only thing they can accept are videos, articles or opinions that agree with their prefixed, ignorant view.
    +1

    The Greeks making sense!!!! :D


    Why is it some of the MT are unable to handle differences of opinion without getting profane. Why do they insist on controlling how others think about things?
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  • aerial wrote:
    Why is it some of the MT are unable to handle differences of opinion without getting profane. Why do they insist on controlling how others think about things?

    There are the overtly aggressive types (you could probably lump me into that group at times)... and there are the passive aggressive types (I'll let you think about who might fit into this category)... and a variety of other styles.

    People come on here to get informed, present their points of view, engage in meaningful dialogue, and in some cases... be challenged (among many other reasons I'm sure). I hardly think it's about controlling how others think about things. The thing I like about this site is when someone steps out of bounds, they are called on it.

    It's hard to get away with being a dickhead here.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/5f6OqKUL9Os
    they aren't playin game
    bashar al-assad, not well liked
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    AELARA wrote:


    Don't bother to talk the common sense. Don't you see some people in here seem to oversee logic and common sense?? They are the same people who pretend they wanna learn but at the same time the only thing they can accept are videos, articles or opinions that agree with their prefixed, ignorant view.

    Unfortunately we've seen that on both sides of the debate in this thread.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    aerial wrote:
    badbrains wrote:
    AELARA wrote:

    Don't bother to talk the common sense. Don't you see some people in here seem to oversee logic and common sense?? They are the same people who pretend they wanna learn but at the same time the only thing they can accept are videos, articles or opinions that agree with their prefixed, ignorant view.
    +1

    The Greeks making sense!!!! :D

    Why is it some of the MT are unable to handle differences of opinion without getting profane. Why do they insist on controlling how others think about things?

    I read the previous comments a few times and in now way was AELARA being "profane"
    so to help you better with the English language here is the definition of the word "profane"....

    1pro·fane
    transitive verb \prō-ˈfān, prə-\

    : to treat (a holy place or object) with great disrespect

    pro·fanedpro·fan·ing

    EasyBib

    Full Definition of PROFANE

    1. to treat (something sacred) with abuse, irreverence, or contempt : desecrate


    2: to debase by a wrong, unworthy, or vulgar use

    — pro·fan·er noun
  • AELARAAELARA Posts: 803
    aerial wrote:
    Why is it some of the MT are unable to handle differences of opinion without getting profane. Why do they insist on controlling how others think about things?

    There are the overtly aggressive types (you could probably lump me into that group at times)... and there are the passive aggressive types (I'll let you think about who might fit into this category)... and a variety of other styles.

    People come on here to get informed, present their points of view, engage in meaningful dialogue, and in some cases... be challenged (among many other reasons I'm sure). I hardly think it's about controlling how others think about things. The thing I like about this site is when someone steps out of bounds, they are called on it.

    It's hard to get away with being a dickhead here.

    Everyone can have his own opinion, who am I to judge or control it? But I think this thread started like this:
    anyone here very much familiar with the qur'an & its teachings? i want to know about the qur'an & muslim beliefs.
    This is not a statement of opinion I guess.It's obvious he had already had an opinion so why asking other people's opinions? Someone who really wants to learn should search the original sources or at least not be one-sided and accept all opinions.
    If your only source of knowledge is Youtube videos and articles then yes, my opinion is that it can't be objective.
    Anyway, everyone can see who tries to manipulate our opinion with no arguments at all just because they can't handle different opinions.
    It's hard to get away with being a dickhead here.
    I couldn't agree more with this, so I'm out of it.
    I am mine!
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    aerial wrote:
    Why is it some of the MT are unable to handle differences of opinion without getting profane. Why do they insist on controlling how others think about things?

    There are the overtly aggressive types (you could probably lump me into that group at times)... and there are the passive aggressive types (I'll let you think about who might fit into this category)... and a variety of other styles.

    People come on here to get informed, present their points of view, engage in meaningful dialogue, and in some cases... be challenged (among many other reasons I'm sure). I hardly think it's about controlling how others think about things. The thing I like about this site is when someone steps out of bounds, they are called on it.

    It's hard to get away with being a dickhead here.

    Better question Areil, why do the uneducated, uninformed always try to educate???? Think about it....... :corn:
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    so let me ask you this

    what should i be looking up? what articles & videos do you suggest? that is the only way from this computer i can research this topic...

    credible articles published & posted online & videos... that's it. what else is there?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    here we have a real genius who would have all egyptian pyramids, the sphinx & any other artifacts destroyed if he could. so my question is... why do these extremists feel they can simply destroy buddha statues & other ancient sculptures... artwork crumbled to dust, why?

    geniuses these fuckers

    http://youtu.be/jBR9XiE-mok
    he also wants to abolish tourism into egypt & was a follower of bin laden. this guy says he won't allow anyone to say, 'osama bin laden' without first saying his proper title, 'sheik'

    sheik osama bin laden... fuck that guy & fuck these freaks who destroy ancient artifacts. bunch of losers

    a persistent lot these fuckin guys
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    yeah cant say im a fan of people who destroy priceless and irreplaceable antiquities.
    hear my name
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  • yeah cant say im a fan of people who destroy priceless and irreplaceable antiquities.

    A moron. Pure and simple.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    More idiots with big mouths speaking "for" Islam. :fp: Fucktards want to destroy beautiful pyramids and sculptures, why? Because you "think" god wants you to??? Please, fuck off, you dnt speak for this muslim.
  • badbrains wrote:
    More idiots with big mouths speaking "for" Islam. :fp: Fucktards want to destroy beautiful pyramids and sculptures, why? Because you "think" god wants you to??? Please, fuck off, you dnt speak for this muslim.

    Badbrains,

    Every time one of these morons goes off... I think of how hard it is for people such as yourself to now have to go and explain yourself to some who wish to lump you in the same clump.

    Worry not- you are valued here.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    badbrains wrote:
    More idiots with big mouths speaking "for" Islam. :fp: Fucktards want to destroy beautiful pyramids and sculptures, why? Because you "think" god wants you to??? Please, fuck off, you dnt speak for this muslim.

    Badbrains,

    Every time one of these morons goes off... I think of how hard it is for people such as yourself to now have to go and explain yourself to some who wish to lump you in the same clump.

    Worry not- you are valued here.

    I appreciate that Thirty, thanks buddy. Why on earth anyone would want to destroy history and beauty is beyond me.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Saudi women defy authorities over driving ban

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/saudi-wome ... -1.2252709

    oh dear ... what is the sheikh or prince or whoever the fuck runs saudi arabia going to do, good for these women :clap::clap::clap:
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Saudi women defy authorities over driving ban

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/saudi-wome ... -1.2252709

    oh dear ... what is the sheikh or prince or whoever the fuck runs saudi arabia going to do, good for these women :clap::clap::clap:

    Lukin, those Saudi leaders are FAR from representing the Muslim people. Those people are pure evil. Wouldn't even call them human let alone Muslim. Good for those women, now if we can only have some Muslims in power stand up for them and speak out cuz I know this Muslim (me) has no power or say.

    Edit-again, this example shows CULTURE not religion. It ISNT against the law for women to drive in other parts of the Muslim world like syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and other Muslim countries. Just those fucktards in Saudi Arabia. Those leaders are twisted and fucked in the head. And from what I understand, Saudi Arabia actually own 10% of our country. Idk exactly how, but I believe I saw that in the documentary Out Foxed. I believe that's where I saw it. Maybe someone has more info on that and can add to my post.
  • K_jamK_jam Posts: 137
    whats the point of this thread??? and whats the point of religious topics on this site.

    why cant the non believers shut up about how religion is a scam and religious people are brainwashed???

    why cant the religious people shut up and keep their religion to themselves???


    why cant non believers realise that when you question the islamic people about their religion theyr going to wanna defend it till you stop no matter what??? and there laws and views on things have been the same for thousands of years, why would they change now???

    and yes your gonna say, times have changed, they need to get with the times but guess what?? it aint gonna happen.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    K_jam wrote:
    whats the point of this thread??? and whats the point of religious topics on this site.

    why cant the non believers shut up about how religion is a scam and religious people are brainwashed???

    why cant the religious people shut up and keep their religion to themselves???


    because it's an open forum ... so as long as we discuss the topic it should be no issue.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    badbrains wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Saudi women defy authorities over driving ban

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/saudi-wome ... -1.2252709

    oh dear ... what is the sheikh or prince or whoever the fuck runs saudi arabia going to do, good for these women :clap::clap::clap:

    Lukin, those Saudi leaders are FAR from representing the Muslim people. Those people are pure evil. Wouldn't even call them human let alone Muslim. Good for those women, now if we can only have some Muslims in power stand up for them and speak out cuz I know this Muslim (me) has no power or say.

    Edit-again, this example shows CULTURE not religion. It ISNT against the law for women to drive in other parts of the Muslim world like syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and other Muslim countries. Just those fucktards in Saudi Arabia. Those leaders are twisted and fucked in the head. And from what I understand, Saudi Arabia actually own 10% of our country. Idk exactly how, but I believe I saw that in the documentary Out Foxed. I believe that's where I saw it. Maybe someone has more info on that and can add to my post.

    They do consider themselves a strict muslim country yes/no?
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • K_jamK_jam Posts: 137
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    because it's an open forum ... so as long as we discuss the topic it should be no issue.[/quote]


    No issue??? Really?? What planet are you from?? Especially a thread about Islam?? You think they're gonna sit back and take the crap you say about their religion?? Open your eyes buddy.
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