Game Changer in Syria?

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  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    everyone calm down, the U.S. isn't sending boots to the ground, they don't actaully want to get rid of Assad, the best outcome from us is a peace treaty between both sides and for a moterate leader to come out from between them. all the west will do is fire cruise missiles.


    for now
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Still illegal.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    satansbed wrote:
    everyone calm down, the U.S. isn't sending boots to the ground, they don't actaully want to get rid of Assad, the best outcome from us is a peace treaty between both sides and for a moterate leader to come out from between them. all the west will do is fire cruise missiles.


    for now


    there have been boots on the ground there for many months....gathering information.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    New poll: Syria intervention even less popular than Congress

    A new Reuters/Ipsos poll has finally found something that Americans like even less than Congress: the possibility of U.S. military intervention in Syria. Only 9 percent of respondents said that the Obama administration should intervene militarily in Syria; a RealClearPolitics poll average finds Congress has a 15 percent approval rating, making the country’s most hated political body almost twice as popular.

    The Reuters/Ipsos poll was taken Aug.19-23, the very same week that horrific reports emerged strongly suggesting that Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people, potentially killing hundreds or even thousands of civilians.

    ....

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/26/new-poll-syria-intervention-even-less-popular-than-congress/
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ajedigecko wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    everyone calm down, the U.S. isn't sending boots to the ground, they don't actaully want to get rid of Assad, the best outcome from us is a peace treaty between both sides and for a moterate leader to come out from between them. all the west will do is fire cruise missiles.


    for now


    there have been boots on the ground there for many months....gathering information.
    like mercenaries for example, yes/no?
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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    chadwick wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    everyone calm down, the U.S. isn't sending boots to the ground, they don't actaully want to get rid of Assad, the best outcome from us is a peace treaty between both sides and for a moterate leader to come out from between them. all the west will do is fire cruise missiles.


    for now


    there have been boots on the ground there for many months....gathering information.
    like mercenaries for example, yes/no?

    Mercenaries no.

    Operators yes.

    targets are always being updated.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,431
    Jason P wrote:
    New poll: Syria intervention even less popular than Congress

    A new Reuters/Ipsos poll has finally found something that Americans like even less than Congress: the possibility of U.S. military intervention in Syria. Only 9 percent of respondents said that the Obama administration should intervene militarily in Syria; a RealClearPolitics poll average finds Congress has a 15 percent approval rating, making the country’s most hated political body almost twice as popular.

    The Reuters/Ipsos poll was taken Aug.19-23, the very same week that horrific reports emerged strongly suggesting that Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people, potentially killing hundreds or even thousands of civilians.

    ....

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/26/new-poll-syria-intervention-even-less-popular-than-congress/
    obama is gonna jump the shark.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ajedigecko wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    everyone calm down, the U.S. isn't sending boots to the ground, they don't actaully want to get rid of Assad, the best outcome from us is a peace treaty between both sides and for a moterate leader to come out from between them. all the west will do is fire cruise missiles.


    for now


    there have been boots on the ground there for many months....gathering information.


    Or planting it.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    obama is gonna jump the shark.
    He is in a tough spot. Putin has been schooling him in the public for months now. Now he set a red line that has been crossed. He can't use the UN as the faceman this time because one of the other UN members is making good profits with this conflict. But if he goes through congress to approve it, he risks it not passing and he gets more pie on his face. If he bypasses congress, he effectivily steps on the constitution (not that that matters to todays politics) and takes a ton of flak.

    All over an issue that only 9% of Americans want to enter.

    I don't think it will get through congress. So does he go through with it?

    And where in the heck did that 2008 anti-war movement go to???

    :corn:
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,799
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Why would Assad use chemical weapons a short distance away from a UN inspection team when he has the upper hand in the civil war?

    :think:
    would not shock me if the rebels did it in hopes of pinning it on the government.
    Like the Jihadis in country. AND it comes a just a week or so after the US and RUS met in Washington? Theres certainly some shady shit surrounding the whole thing.
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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    unsung wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    everyone calm down, the U.S. isn't sending boots to the ground, they don't actaully want to get rid of Assad, the best outcome from us is a peace treaty between both sides and for a moterate leader to come out from between them. all the west will do is fire cruise missiles.


    for now


    there have been boots on the ground there for many months....gathering information.


    Or planting it.


    it is an effective strategy.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    If we are going to check out all intelligence, then we should also look at those who would benefit from Syria's downfall.
    Sure everyone is looking at the US to be first with backup from France and Great Britian, but who in the Middle East also becomes the silent winner.

    What about the Qatar factor? Has anyone stop to think that maybe Qatar’s Special Forces had something to do with the chemical release in Syria? With Syria contained, the impact on the pipelines servicing Iran and Russia would be subject to Qatar discretion. Seeing that both France and Great Britain are Qatar’s bitches, it is not inconceivable that Qatar is a factor in this mess.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    And where in the heck did that 2008 anti-war movement go to???

    :corn:

    the true peaceniks are here! ...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    because of the crap waiting to happen oil jumped 3% and the DOW fell 117 points.


    Godfather.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    Godfather. wrote:
    because of the crap waiting to happen oil jumped 3% and the DOW fell 117 points.


    Godfather.


    ...and when assad is removed - what type replaces him.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    JimmyV wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    when we begin war with Syria...it does not need to be long. we have the means to make it quick.

    our problem...we do not like quick war.









    kiss of death

    The problem is never the war itself, it is not having a plan for what comes next. So we go in an quickly remove Assad. Great, but then what?

    Chaos.

    Truth...point taken.







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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_S ... C1Mepk_Sw#

    General Wesley Clark
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • petejm043
    petejm043 Posts: 156
    ajedigecko wrote:
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9RC1Mepk_Sw#

    General Wesley Clark
    I have a hard time believing Gen. Clark on that one. For starters there was an individual who spoke to Gen. Clark and gave him Top Secret info. Secondly, 10 days after the 9/11 attacks, I doubt that a civilian, which Gen. Clark was at the time strolls into the Pentagon.

    Don't get me wrong, Gen. Clark is a Patriot and dedicated his life to serving the United States and I believe he means well. But he may be stretching part of his story.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    petejm043 wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9RC1Mepk_Sw#

    General Wesley Clark
    I have a hard time believing Gen. Clark on that one. For starters there was an individual who spoke to Gen. Clark and gave him Top Secret info. Secondly, 10 days after the 9/11 attacks, I doubt that a civilian, which Gen. Clark was at the time strolls into the Pentagon.

    Don't get me wrong, Gen. Clark is a Patriot and dedicated his life to serving the United States and I believe he means well. But he may be stretching part of his story.


    Time will tell.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • petejm043
    petejm043 Posts: 156
    ajedigecko wrote:
    petejm043 wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9RC1Mepk_Sw#

    General Wesley Clark
    I have a hard time believing Gen. Clark on that one. For starters there was an individual who spoke to Gen. Clark and gave him Top Secret info. Secondly, 10 days after the 9/11 attacks, I doubt that a civilian, which Gen. Clark was at the time strolls into the Pentagon.

    Don't get me wrong, Gen. Clark is a Patriot and dedicated his life to serving the United States and I believe he means well. But he may be stretching part of his story.


    Time will tell.

    True...I hope we don't go to Syria. No More War!

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