Game Changer in Syria?

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  • petejm043
    petejm043 Posts: 156
    chadwick wrote:
    war sucks.

    no matter what, when innocent folks are gassed to death something has to happen to those responsible

    I understand where you are coming from. My parents lost their country and some of my other family members were executed or shoved in a prison because they disagreed with the new regime. I just feel like we are getting caught in the middle. If we are going to give humanitarian aid to Syria, am all for that. But to shed more American blood...I just cant see me going for that.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Did we supply the chemical weapons like we did when saddam used them? You guys forget history rather quickly.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    chadwick wrote:
    war sucks.

    no matter what, when innocent folks are gassed to death something has to happen to those responsible
    We don't know who used chemical weapons. Remember wmd's.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    satansbed wrote:
    FRENCH PRESIDENT FRANCOIS Hollande said today that evidence indicated Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime had carried out chemical weapons attacks on its own people last week.
    Hollande said there was “a body of evidence indicating that the 21 August attack was chemical in nature, and that everything led to the belief that the Syrian regime was responsible for this unspeakable act”.
    The French president called for UN weapons inspectors to be given access to suspect sites “without delay and without any restrictions whatsoever”, in a statement released by his office after he held telephone talks on the situation in Syria with Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.


    http://www.thejournal.ie/hollande-assad ... itter_self
    Blaming opponents for dastardly acts is used repeatedly by the us and its allies.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    obama and kerry have our best interest in mind..... :lol: it's way past time to impeach :evil:

    Godfather.


    The Obama administration was inching closer to a decision on how and whether to strike Syria, after Secretary of State John Kerry and the White House both declared that the evidence showing chemical weapons were used in a deadly attack last week is "undeniable."

    "What is before us today is real, and it is compelling," Kerry said.

    Administration officials, signaling they might not wait until U.N. inspectors finalize their own investigation, now say that the international community must respond to the use of chemical weapons. The comments from top U.S. officials on Monday signaled a shift in tone, with military action looking more likely than it did just a day or two ago.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08 ... z2dAg9ka84
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited August 2013
    What will impeachment solve? Nothing. I hate Obama's policies but even if you had the votes to convict nothing would change. It's a waste of time.

    If we want to fix things it's time to defund about everything. Then we start from scratch and strictly follow the Constitution and end the Fed. That's our only hope.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I hope this plays.

    http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0 ... 80,00.html

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    unsung wrote:
    What will impeachment solve? Nothing. I hate Obama's policies but even if you had the votes to convict nothing would change. It's a waste of time.

    If we want to fix things it's time to defund about everything.

    you are probably right but getting that idiot out of office wouyld be a great thing to see.


    Godfather.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    when we begin war with Syria...it does not need to be long. we have the means to make it quick.

    our problem...we do not like quick war.









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    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,865
    They better not fucking get us involved in another war.

    cocksuckers

    also fuck John McCain and his bloodlust
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    "GET YOUR WAR ON!!!!"
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    nailing a handfull of nasty shits isn't a war is it? i highly doubt 14,000 evil fuckers from syria set of chemical weapons against syrians.

    a bunk ass small group of monsters can be removed from existence with very little energy & force used. a couple groups of navy seals & green berets very easily can remove disgusting chemical warfare shits.

    or frig it... drop a bomb on the heads of these pricks

    to me & my way of thinking, this is not a war but a simple way of removing dangerous freaks from syrian society which is suffering & these syrians seem to be incapable of defending themselves

    in reality, school yard bullies will be put in check & removed sooner or later

    it is my belief system that allows me to have the thought of reaching out to aid anyone suffering who cannot help themselves. as a fellow living & breathing person, i cannot support walking away. we are fully capable of lending a loving hand to cradle & protect those unable to shield themselves against some twisted ass folks

    i am against war. perhaps this operation could be done with zero fighting. the world's people should accept this journey, reach out & care about those suffering. turning our backs on those treated horrificly only proves we are selfish cowards
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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    Something is not right. The US stated that it would not interfere in Syria unless there was use of WMDs (chemical weapons). With all that Ahssad has been through and the fact that he has hung on this long - Why would the Syrian government use chemical weapons against its people, after all this time, with UN inspectors in the country at the time.

    What right do we have to intervene in other nations civil wars just because we have ‘labeled’ the players? Not one country that has experienced the so called Arab Spring has a stabilized government and population in place. So are we in these countries to assist, help and protect the population and stablize the governments or are we there PROTECTING Western assets?

    I'd like a clear cut answer before another soldier has to die in the name of 'spreading' democracy. Right now it seems like our own democracy is being challenged in States like TX, NC, WI, OH and VA.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    frig assests. & you're right, something is not right.

    question. do we know yet who set off the chemical weapons? i do not have a television & you can understand how this limits a bit of my knowledge about world events.
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  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,826
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Yes, chemical weapons WERE used in Syria months ago....remember the chemical 'red line', and the hype saying that if it were crossed, Team America might need to put some boots on the ground? Yeehaw! Back then, it seemed every world leader was calling for Assad's head for the chem attacks. Then the UN did an investigation and found that it was the Western-backed rebels who used them. Then a rebel group got caught red handed with chemicals and arrested in Turkey. (I posted articles about both, they can be found using the search function).
    So are we really to believe that it was Assad this time?

    Another thing....is it another example of American exceptionalism for everyone to be arguing about whether or not the US should 'stay out' of Syria? We all know for a fact that this has been a proxy war from day one - the west has been funding and arming the rebels all along, with their geopolitcal rivals (Russia and Iran) backing Assad. By saying 'stay out', or 'get involved', are people talking only about blue-eyed US soldiers? We are already involved if we're funding and arming the rebels...so is it ok to do that as long as no americans are dying?
    Don't fall into the trap of thinking this would be some humanitarian rescue effort if the US sent troops in. How many times will we fall for the same war justifications? Ugh.
    Whatever happened to 'international peace-keeping forces?'....blue helmets from Arab (and other) countries, instead of just americans and their NATO bitches kickin ass and takin names? :roll:

    :clap:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/To8MVbmyLYA
    check out this chaos
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
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    no more forever."
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Why would Assad use chemical weapons a short distance away from a UN inspection team when he has the upper hand in the civil war?

    :think:
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    Jason P wrote:
    Why would Assad use chemical weapons a short distance away from a UN inspection team when he has the upper hand in the civil war?

    :think:
    would not shock me if the rebels did it in hopes of pinning it on the government.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Why would Assad use chemical weapons a short distance away from a UN inspection team when he has the upper hand in the civil war?

    :think:
    would not shock me if the rebels did it in hopes of pinning it on the government.
    A small sacrifice of your own for a bevy of cruise missiles and long-range bombers? I could see that strategy being justified.

    It's at least as plausible as Assad being stupid enough to draw the West into the fray. Possibly more plausible.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    ajedigecko wrote:
    when we begin war with Syria...it does not need to be long. we have the means to make it quick.

    our problem...we do not like quick war.









    kiss of death

    The problem is never the war itself, it is not having a plan for what comes next. So we go in an quickly remove Assad. Great, but then what?

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