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  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Sweet Anna....sweet sweet Anna.....
  • swardsward Posts: 586
    FYI..All American Rejects show postponed until Monday in Halifax..not sure about others.
  • funkymonkfunkymonk Posts: 279
    The Moncton show appears to be the same date, so far.
  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Interesting article in the Daily News....there's a part in it that says Pearl Jam has set the standard for concert quality here in Halifax....


    Everyone who's anyone plays Halifax these days

    The world's greatest rock band will descend on Halifax, it's said. Some of the biggest names in rock, country and rap music have been here, or soon will be. In light of the Stones rumours, and the arrival of show after big show of late, we thought it wa

    By Stephane Massinon


    Ten minutes to show time. The house lights are on, and it's hard to take your eyes off the stage as you scan the scene.

    You've been in the Metro Centre before, but every time a concert comes to town, the transformation still amazes you.

    Lately you've been listening to nothing but the artist's albums. You've more or less memorized songs. You wonder what'll be performed first, and if that one song that never gets played on the radio, but that you feel particularly connected to, will be played.

    Someone nearby lights up a joint. You chide that person (or ask for a toke, depending) and continue to wait. The anticipation is killing you until, finally, the lights go down.

    Cool.

    If you're a music fan, this is a scene that's been playing out more and more. And according to the people at the Metro Centre, you can expect more of it.

    "It's a great year. It's not just the number of shows, but even the size. Last year was a strong year, and this year's proving to be just as strong, if not stronger," said Scott Ferguson, executive vice-president at Trade Centre Ltd.

    "In the foreseeable future we expect to stay on this trend."

    He said the city is starting to prove itself as an event destination, adding that Trade Centre Ltd. has a strong relationship with Gillett Entertainment Group, a music promoter from Montreal.

    With a strong base of fans and staff, Halifax is able to get big names to come to town.

    "We're trying to position Halifax as this country's top event city. We think pound for pound, we can do a better job than anyone in the country. We've proven that with events like the World Juniors and the world's women's (championship) where we set attendance records," said Ferguson.

    Ferguson said it's important to look at the events industry as a whole rather than its parts of sports, concerts and conferences. He thinks the local industry is doing very well and is being recognized as it works to bring events here.

    Promoter Wendy Phillips of Sonic Entertainment Group has been bringing music here for two years. Sonic isn't involved in the really big shows, like the proposed Rolling Stones concert, but the company books across Atlantic Canada.

    She said the city is growing in confidence.

    "The sky's the limit, I think."

    Market research

    Behind the scenes, Phillips said, the company must do market research (album sales, radio play, etc.) before paying bands to come.

    "We put money on the line to bring people here. It's a risk. If we don't sell tickets, we lose money, and it's not a win-win for everybody."

    Phillips said local bands making it on the national stage show that we have a strong music scene here.

    Overall, she said, the city as a concert destination is growing steadily.

    Concert-wise, Halifax's fortunes are on an upswing. But it's not necessarily new.

    Music industry insider Mike Campbell, owner of Soapbox Racer Entertainment, has had his eye on the town for a while, both while working at his old MuchMusic show and now, as Joel Plaskett's management.

    "There was barely a year that went by, years ago, where there wasn't at least two events - maybe even three - on (Citadel) Hill. That's gone the way of the dodo; nobody seems to be doing that anymore."

    'A city thing'

    "It's probably a city thing. I think it's just too expensive to do a show there, so by the end of it, promoters have to risk life and limb and their financial well-being," said Campbell.

    J.C. Douglas, program director for Q104, also says that historically Halifax hasn't been a strange stop for big bands.

    "Halifax has often drawn great artists at their peak; it's not a totally new thing. I think back to Kiss at The Forum in '76, Aerosmith when they played some Metro Centre shows in the early '90s. That continues today. Pearl Jam last year might have set a standard for concert quality at the Metro Centre. We don't get 'em all, but we do get some of them. I know it sometimes seems like it's few and far between."

    The recent surge in concerts could be explained by many things. Perhaps there are more acts touring, with bigger budgets. And some acts who typically play the big markets are now looking at secondary venues, some say.

    "Most of the agents I've talked to over the past few years have always wanted to come here. It's just a matter of its making economic sense for everybody," said Campbell.

    "The bands that make a point of coming here, like the Hip and Blue Rodeo and bands of that ilk, all of them have been successful out here. So they all want to come here, because they have the fan base. They can afford to do it.

    "But there are more reasons not to come than there are to come. It's like, 'We really want to, but it just doesn't make any economic sense, but everybody would really like to.' The ones that go the extra mile and come here are always happy and come back."

    If a proposed major concert in September goes through, Campbell said it could show there is a market for large concerts here, and that with the will, big shows can happen.

    Geography

    Halifax's geography can make it especially hard to bring events here. With large distances to drive between Quebec and Halifax, it can be a two-day process to bring an entire stage here - and then another two going back.

    Promoters would prefer to schedule dates and cities nearby.

    Douglas remembers trying to bring Canadian rock band Rush to town in 1986.

    By that point, the band hadn't been here for seven years. So the radio station started the Rush To Halifax campaign that gathered a 24,000-signature petition to get them here.

    The problem then, as now, said Douglas, is still the distance between destinations. That, and venue. If an act is going to make the trek, it'd be better to play to a larger crowd.

    But for acts who let geography and venue get in the way, Douglas said there are counter-examples such as Aerosmith and Def Leppard, who have played multiple shows here. They obviously find it profitable, he said.

    'A lot of empty road'

    "I know a lot of people are very disappointed sometimes in the concert scene here, but it's the geography and the venue size. It just doesn't work really well," said Douglas.

    "If there were a lot of Halifaxes between Quebec City and here, that would be one thing, but there aren't. It's a lot of empty road. Just look at the cost of gas. The price of touring is going up and up as they're hauling these big rigs across the country. If they've got to drive for 12 hours without a venue, or just a small venue along the way, that makes it really tough for them. I hate to empathize with them; I'd certainly rather see the concerts come."

    Ultimately, said Douglas, if more concerts are wanted, it comes down to buying tickets. And buying them in advance.

    "The thing I think is most important is when the concerts come here, go see 'em. Buy the ticket, let people know that we are a concert-going locality. That's the best way to draw more (concerts) here."
  • teflonsteveteflonsteve Posts: 275
    Great article. Thanks!
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  • funkymonkfunkymonk Posts: 279
    Geography-wise, Moncton does have somewhat of an edge over Halifax. However, we have shit for decent indoor venues. The Moncton Coliseum is basically a tin can with poor acoustics and the ceiling isn't high enough to support many of the big stage shows that alot of artists have, not to mention that it only holds around 6500 people. The Magnetic Hill site is good and all but I'm not sure if it's what I would call a concert destination for most bands. It's not like it's the Gorge or Red Rocks. I wish Halifax would get a stadium so that more bands would go there. The "stadium" that they are supposed to be building here in Moncton appears to only be geared for sports activities. It sounds like the federal government will only help fund one stadium in Atlantic Canada - which is really too bad.
  • lannerslanners Posts: 458
    great article sward. thanks for sharing!
    i. am. mine.
  • swardsward Posts: 586
    funkymonk wrote:
    Geography-wise, Moncton does have somewhat of an edge over Halifax. However, we have shit for decent indoor venues. The Moncton Coliseum is basically a tin can with poor acoustics and the ceiling isn't high enough to support many of the big stage shows that alot of artists have, not to mention that it only holds around 6500 people. The Magnetic Hill site is good and all but I'm not sure if it's what I would call a concert destination for most bands. It's not like it's the Gorge or Red Rocks. I wish Halifax would get a stadium so that more bands would go there. The "stadium" that they are supposed to be building here in Moncton appears to only be geared for sports activities. It sounds like the federal government will only help fund one stadium in Atlantic Canada - which is really too bad.

    As a monctonian, I agree with a lot of what you say. The Coliseum is an abysmal place to have a concert...from the low ceiling, to the shoddy acoustics. Can Moncton support a larger arena? That would be my only concern. Moncton certainly does have the edge in terms of location...but Halifax has the non travelling population to build events upon. Plus..Halifax actually does a good job at supporting concerts. Personally, I don't care who gets the concerts..I just want them to come. Why the City of Moncton isn't making a multi purpose stadium is beyond me. The 6 months of good weather (maybe), just can't allow the place to succeed. How many track and field events are they going to have?? ;-) And here's the rub...Moncton will not get a CFL team...for that matter, I doubt Halifax will...so the stadium needs to be multi purpose to have any sort of value beyond the Track event.
  • TWHoltTWHolt Moncton, NB Posts: 407
    Rumor has it that PJ may be returning to Philly...according to a thread on the Porch. It is complete speculation but what if....ah nevermind.....
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  • TruthmongerTruthmonger Posts: 559
    lanners wrote:
    great article sward. thanks for sharing!

    Anyone else gettin' any bright ideas ?!! I am.......

    On another note, I had a dream about Eddie a couple nights ago. I was at a huge outdoor party where Ed and the boys were. At the very end of the night I got to talk to Ed and said: "Do you have any idea what you've started in halifax ? You simply have to come back." He agreed, and said (I shit you not): "well, why don't you draw up a contract, even if its one that's hand-written and on a shitty old piece of paper, and we'll agree to do the show. That's all you'll need - and believe me, based on the way things are with us lately, that'll definitely be enough for us". That's all I remember from the dream. Oh yea, and Eddie was wasted. But you knew that already...... And no, Anna Pornikova wasn't my date.
  • lannerslanners Posts: 458
    Anyone else gettin' any bright ideas ?!! I am.......

    On another note, I had a dream about Eddie a couple nights ago. I was at a huge outdoor party where Ed and the boys were. At the very end of the night I got to talk to Ed and said: "Do you have any idea what you've started in halifax ? You simply have to come back." He agreed, and said (I shit you not): "well, why don't you draw up a contract, even if its one that's hand-written and on a shitty old piece of paper, and we'll agree to do the show. That's all you'll need - and believe me, based on the way things are with us lately, that'll definitely be enough for us". That's all I remember from the dream. Oh yea, and Eddie was wasted. But you knew that already...... And no, Anna Pornikova wasn't my date.

    i had a similar dream, but it looked more like a 4H Barn dance and Eddie turned in to the Stay Puft Marshmellow man.

    oop...it's thundering. i guess i should go.

    it's my birthday so you can guess what i was wishing for with every candle i blew out!!!
    i. am. mine.
  • TWHoltTWHolt Moncton, NB Posts: 407
    Happy belated Birthday lanners! I wish that your wish comes true....whatever that wish is ;)
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  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Wow...my concert rumour mill has dried up...not a hint of any news over the last few days...tumbleweed type silence. Know what that means?? Something's right around the corner! ;-) It'll likely be the Stones..but hey...PJ is full of surprises...so all your birthday wishes may come true..whatever they may be ;) I still think a pre Europe warm up gig is in order!
  • lannerslanners Posts: 458
    Boozer wrote:
    Happy belated Birthday lanners! I wish that your wish comes true....whatever that wish is ;)

    thanks Boozer.

    sward...it's kind of weird that there's not been any new word from any source about what's going on.

    i won't hold you accountable for no new news.
    i. am. mine.
  • funkymonkfunkymonk Posts: 279
    There may not be an official announcement until the they finalize the rest of the Canadian/US dates so they don't end up announcing something prematurely.
  • TruthmongerTruthmonger Posts: 559
    Happy B'day Lanners. I hope you're gonna have a little fun tonight (not that i'd know what fun is anymore). I thought the Daily News article was interesting too, if for no other reason than how it contradicted an earlier contemporaneous piece from The Coast which panned the show in ha;lifax. That person hated PJ, and basically dismissed them as a bunch of has-beens who were irrelevent. Lets see, they're either irrelevent, or they've set the standard for shows in Halifax......hmmmmm, thats quite the discrepancy.

    I'm anxiously awaiting news about any more tour additions. You know, its entirely possible that something could happen in Halifax given its location on the tour path. But i need information soon......
  • lannerslanners Posts: 458
    Thanks Truth, for the bday wishes. My bday consisted of bomb threats, shopping, air conditioner drama and some pretty nifty prezzies.

    i am counting on all the candles i blew out...yeah, i'm a dork, sue me.

    so Truth, are you still paying for Dublin or whaaaaa?

    or does that happen after Anna Pornipova pops out of the poster and pops out of her top and pops...well...

    anypoo...i'm tired. me makey no sensy no morey.
    i. am. mine.
  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Happy belated birthday Lanners! What are you at now?? The big 40? ;-)

    So...I've just been, potentially, presented an opportunity for a position in Moncton. Money is same as now..but the potential to make more is greater and the pension plan rocks. But...it is in Moncton....I love my little hometown..but I really, really love living in Halifax. What to do..what to do...

    I'd always have a home base in halifax, since my inlaws are here...and financially the move would help (sale of house, etc..)....and maybe finance a little PJ action this year. Heheh. But....it is in Moncton. Tough decision.
  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Who dates announced today:

    No Sept.23 on there..but curiously, there is a 4 day gap there and nothing like that anywhere else...Stay tuned.....

    Sept. 12 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Centre
    Sept. 13 Wantagh, NY Nikon at Jones Beach Theatre
    Sept. 15 Ottawa, ON Scotiabank Place
    Sept. 16 Boston, MA TD Banknorth Garden
    Sept. 18 New York, NY Madison Square Garden
    Sept. 21 Holmdel, NJ PNC Bank Arts Center
    Sept. 25 Chicago, IL United Center
    Sept. 29 Detroit, MI Palace of Auburn Hills
    Sept. 30 London, ON John Labatt Center
    Oct. 3 Winnipeg, MB MTS Centre
    Oct. 5 Calgary, AB Pengrowth Saddledome
    Oct. 6 Edmonton, AB Rexall Place
    Oct. 8 Vancouver, BC GM Place
    Oct. 10 Portland, OR Rose Garden
    Oct. 11 Seattle, WA Key Arena
    Nov. 5 Los Angeles, CA Hollywood Bowl
    Dec. 4 Toronto, ON Air Canada Centre
  • TWHoltTWHolt Moncton, NB Posts: 407
    sward wrote:
    Happy belated birthday Lanners! What are you at now?? The big 40? ;-)

    So...I've just been, potentially, presented an opportunity for a position in Moncton. Money is same as now..but the potential to make more is greater and the pension plan rocks. But...it is in Moncton....I love my little hometown..but I really, really love living in Halifax. What to do..what to do...

    I'd always have a home base in halifax, since my inlaws are here...and financially the move would help (sale of house, etc..)....and maybe finance a little PJ action this year. Heheh. But....it is in Moncton. Tough decision.

    I had the same decision at the end of 2005. I made the move back to Moncton. Got my first house at a fraction of the cost that I was ready and willing to pay in Hali. Job has worked out great and enjoying hanging with my friends and family on a regular basis. I really miss Halifax and all my friends there but it's not like it's a country away. I've been back to visit a few times. It's different for everyone obviously but I haven't looked back. Best of luck to you. ;)
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  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Boozer wrote:
    I had the same decision at the end of 2005. I made the move back to Moncton. Got my first house at a fraction of the cost that I was ready and willing to pay in Hali. Job has worked out great and enjoying hanging with my friends and family on a regular basis. I really miss Halifax and all my friends there but it's not like it's a country away. I've been back to visit a few times. It's different for everyone obviously but I haven't looked back. Best of luck to you. ;)


    Thanks...although the opportunity may have already fallen through. hahah. They want to see me next week..but on the day they want, I have a work trip in progress..I told em I could see them Wednesday, Thursday or Friday in Moncton and they said Tuesday was the only day. So..I said 'No thanks..not appropriate to cancel a work trip for something like that' :-)

    And that's that I guess.
  • TWHoltTWHolt Moncton, NB Posts: 407
    That may actually work to your advantage....I refused my first offer here in Moncton saying I had a commitment with my previous job for a project to be completed in Nov..( They wanted me for August ). They called and told me they admired my ethics and offered more money and were willing to wait till October. lol! I couldn't say no..... funny that it's quite a similar situation. Anywho....Here's to Pearl Jam in Halifax in 2006!!
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  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Boozer wrote:
    That may actually work to your advantage....I refused my first offer here in Moncton saying I had a commitment with my previous job for a project to be completed in Nov..( They wanted me for August ). They called and told me they admired my ethics and offered more money and were willing to wait till October. lol! I couldn't say no..... funny that it's quite a similar situation. Anywho....Here's to Pearl Jam in Halifax in 2006!!


    Well..I hope it is so similar that they offer me more money as well! hahaha

    PJ 2006 or....2007...we're not picky
  • lannerslanners Posts: 458
    sward wrote:
    Happy belated birthday Lanners! What are you at now?? The big 40? ;-)

    So...I've just been, potentially, presented an opportunity for a position in Moncton. Money is same as now..but the potential to make more is greater and the pension plan rocks. But...it is in Moncton....I love my little hometown..but I really, really love living in Halifax. What to do..what to do...

    I'd always have a home base in halifax, since my inlaws are here...and financially the move would help (sale of house, etc..)....and maybe finance a little PJ action this year. Heheh. But....it is in Moncton. Tough decision.

    thanks sward...not 40 yet, but it's creeping closer every year.

    wow...moving to Sketchton. Having grown up in Sackville, i am familiar with moncton and to be honest, it would be a great move financially on your part, however, i find Moncton to be the sketchiest place on earth. but you know that! you're from there! ;)

    i hope you have a similar offer as Boozer and they recognize your dedication and integrity and offer you loads more cash...that way you can help finance my next trip to see Pearl Jam in Halifax in 2006, or 2007. ;)

    you're right...we're not picky.
    i. am. mine.
  • swardsward Posts: 586
    lanners wrote:
    thanks sward...not 40 yet, but it's creeping closer every year.

    wow...moving to Sketchton. Having grown up in Sackville, i am familiar with moncton and to be honest, it would be a great move financially on your part, however, i find Moncton to be the sketchiest place on earth. but you know that! you're from there! ;)

    i hope you have a similar offer as Boozer and they recognize your dedication and integrity and offer you loads more cash...that way you can help finance my next trip to see Pearl Jam in Halifax in 2006, or 2007. ;)

    you're right...we're not picky.


    Hmm..finance? Maybe ...maybe not. ;-)

    But...I always have a place to crash for fellow PJ lovers...but only after a few background checks ;-)
  • lannerslanners Posts: 458
    sward wrote:
    Hmm..finance? Maybe ...maybe not. ;-)

    But...I always have a place to crash for fellow PJ lovers...but only after a few background checks ;-)

    BWAA HA HA HA HA

    you can't hate a girl for trying.

    i'm starting to think that maybe i should come up with a "red paperclip" of my own to fund my PJ addiction. maybe i could trade it up for touring priviledges for a year!
    i. am. mine.
  • TruthmongerTruthmonger Posts: 559
    "i find Moncton to be the sketchiest place on earth" - now that's fucking funny. Thanks for the laugh. Funny cuz its true. But Oshawa would give it a run for its money - it is, after all, the home of the mullet. Hands down. It is also the home of the Kountry Kut & Kurl (yes, I believe its spelled that way - need I say more ?!!)

    Am I goin to Dublin, you say ?! Guess it all depends on a couple things, or should i say a couple thousand things ? Unsure, to say the least. I'll have a better idea in about 2 weeks. I'm either going there, or I'm coming down east. If the latter, then I'll likely be stopping in Fredericton to see family. If you're around, Lanners, we should hook up for some PJ chat.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,073
    sunday night's the Live show at the halifax metro centre. i'll be wearing thy red mosquito t-shirt. see ya all there. :)

    ps ... good job Q104. they have been playing the pj each & every day. it's about time. good job Q .. good job.
  • TruthmongerTruthmonger Posts: 559
    Here's the Wilco review from the Halifax Herald. Sounded likea pretty good show. I liked the dig the band made about the fans in Toronto and Massey Hall.....

    http://www.herald.ns.ca/Entertainment/515848.html
  • swardsward Posts: 586
    Lanners...the only sketchier place than Moncton is Fredericton! ;-) I went to UNB..so I do have a reference. hahaha

    Truth - Oshawa? Is that where you are?? K..I thought you were in Halifax, and the Lanners was in Moncton. Wrong on both counts.

    I didn't get to see Wilco..but I could hear them. Some people I talked to the next day said that the Alderney Theatre where they played was an amazing spot for a show. I'll have to check it out sometime. Right on the water..so that's good..and there were 3 thousand people for Wilco....Halifax/Dartmouth needs to promote this more..there are a lot of smaller size bands that might play here more if they had other options than 1100 seats ot 10000 seats
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