There is no god

chadwick

speaking of warding off the spirits, it has been rather quiet lately but the old visions & messages of some kind or another & the future or just unasked for broadcasts are still very accurate. names, places, job interviews falling from the sky & i know they are coming & they do & i am correct, sometimes not always but more often than not you could wager real currency on my goofy old spooky ass & you be $$$ cashin out your settlement at the casino teller window

so i will be having a conversation w/ a good friend of mine who is a beautiful genius & we'll discuss your messages upstairs here above me. ^ upstairs, your post. a great thinker i see. that deserves a little silver star for your efforts. i work well within a group & walking/pacing floors & at the white board as i am a kinesthetic learner. this is a complete disaster most often in a traditional classroom. i gotta crawl around & fuck w/ stuff. music, fidgeting w/ the teacher's bra back in the old days, rubbin my pencils the wrong way & the list goes on as does my daydreaming. all of which i can not control. why? hyper little bastard that's why. mentally & physically crawling the walls chewing on live wires for entertainment or the live wires chewing on me for kicks.

who is this band? never heard of them. they sound peaceful, i like peaceful. i also like brutality & ridiculous bullshit.

there is a thread on here for the topic of supernatural or paranormal happenings. this is where i am located. again, i can not help myself as i was born into this whole hole. it is a wonderful massive sanctuary of torture, bliss, mystery, shit, piss & the very bizarre.

inside of me on any given day i feel like a tornado or a tidal wave ready to destroy everything as the universe hums like industrial boilers on full, i feel this flowing in my veins. it is a miracle i've not snapped. so i scratch my back w/ a bamboo back scratcher as i have gravel pieces, dirt & glass embedded in my back's flesh from being a drunk teenager crashing on a motorcycle using my backmeat as a sliding playtoy.

so we are learning, well, some of us are experiencing true supernatural events & it could be on a fairly regular occurrence where your physics can not go, grow, climb, roll or even sit inside of & feel or listen quietly as a wind listens & feels its lover cloud orgasm.

& so you go for a walk, you are thirsty, you drink from waterfall spilling, splashing over raindrops collectively united as one team all with one great intention to feed your thirst. this alone is a miracle but why not blow this waterfall up w/ dynomite & plow a wider freeway thru this now dead waterfall & forerst fulla of ridiculous squirrels, stupid trees, ugly ass bullshit frogs & salamanders

your story is fun & creative. in all honesty i would not talk to you that way though unless you pissed me off & even then i'd most likely just leave to avoid caving your skull in. but let's just pretend for a moment you smacked me upside the nose or lip after i said you are a scientist's pimply ass, that would be great bonding material i do believe so as i bleed & can taste my own flowing redness. i would be excited & probably laugh, hug you & throw you in the classroom for one of your longwinded fucking math lectures... you know the kind where all the college ladies are wearing miniskirts, tight sweaters & wondering about gods (not religion), sex & the badass genius physics professor who drinks from waterfalls

by the way, people... if there are zero gods then how did we wind up with women? please answer this complex question in just under 241 pages. thank you. goodnight & good morning

brianlux

^^^ I'm getting some kind of cosmologicspiritaphysics buzz just reading this outrageous shit. :P Well done evs... and I can't wait to see Chadwicks reply!
But first to sleep, perchance to dream.

evsgjamm

The band: Neverending White Lights
From Act 1 - Goodbye Friends of the Heavenly Bodies. $9.99 on iTunes (CD is no longer in print)

I am honored to have earned your Silver star.
I, too, like peaceful shit and aggrevating, spine-pinching brutality. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU SPELL AGGREVATING:!:!:!:!:!::!:!!! DICK!... ASS!..... FFFFFFFFUCK YOU!

In addition, I have been in a motorcycle accident. Leaned over too far on a sportbike when I was 17 and slid 150 feet across the highway - I was lucky.

You and your friend, please enjoy tearing into my story. Enjoy tearing into this whole topic. Just keep on tearing. Tear it all to shreds. Then piece it back together and tell us what came of it.

And now, for something completely different... Goodbye Friends of the god forum

brian.... catch'ya onnn the flippp siiiiide.

chadwick

dear, evsgjamm

you are a hoot & i respect you. do not leave

have a wonderful day. tearing apart what you presented above would take me 19 month or 18 years. & now you leave me here alone & w/out guidance? im jammed up

i was on here early when i typed up what i typed up w/out sleep & finally got in two whole hrs of sleep. may i continue to cry on your shoulder? hey speaking of shoulders, mine still ache pretty good

i'll research your earlier post & see what i can find

be well, champion

evsgjamm

I'll always be around, up my ass. Always.
This is actually the song I wanted you to dive into with both feet, ears, kidneys and minds eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2kEwTZdsjo

Sleep well wicked soul.

Byrnzie

i_lov_it

satansbed said:

Do you want proof,

If there was a god he would never have acquitted a shameless murder.
Proof if we ever needed it we are just simple organisms,

:fp: :nono:

Kind of depends what you Interpret as God.

PJ_Soul

If there were a God the world and people would be a hell of a lot better than they are, and there would be no mosquitoes.
People who think that God created us and the world and everything, they must not have a very good opinion of him!

brianlux

I've long said that as soon as you try to define God, your god is to small. That idea came to me many years ago from reading J.B. Phillips book called Your God is Too Small.

I found a similar, even better description of this idea- one that articulated the thought at least as well as or better than anything I've seen or read anywhere so far- in Captain Paul Watson's book Earthforce! An Earth Warriors Guide to Strategy. In it, Wilson says this:

Christ, Mohammed, Buddha and L. Ron Hubbard were primates, cousins to the chimpanzee and the mountain gorilla just as were all the children of all a species of naked simians. In primateness, we can find family. Although anthropocentric humans may consider themselves to be divine legends in their own mind, the biological reality is that they are simply overly glorified, conceited apes.

God is not a monkey. God is the unknown, the feminine force in divine harmony with the masculine force, the is and the is not, the positive and the negative, the alpha and the omega. God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.

All wars have their foundations in the conflicts of anthropocentrism over philosophy, territory, resources and power.

Earthforce!, 2nd Edition, pp 29-30

Edit: It's WATSON not Wilson. Ooops!

rgambs

Thomas Paine "The Age of Reason"
if you havnt read it, do so! Its short and it literally tears the bible to shreds and pisses on the gods of feeble men who cling to fables.

rr165892

brianlux said:

I've long said that as soon as you try to define God, your god is to small. That idea came to me many years ago from reading J.B. Phillips book called Your God is Too Small.

I found a similar, even better description of this idea- one that articulated the thought at least as well as or better than anything I've seen or read anywhere so far- in Captain Paul Wilson's book Earthforce! An Earth Warriors Guide to Strategy. In it, Wilson says this:

Christ, Mohammed, Buddha and L. Ron Hubbard were primates, cousins to the chimpanzee and the mountain gorilla just as were all the children of all a species of naked simians. In primateness, we can find family. Although anthropocentric humans may consider themselves to be divine legends in their own mind, the biological reality is that they are simply overly glorified, conceited apes.

God is not a monkey. God is the unknown, the feminine force in divine harmony with the masculine force, the is and the is not, the positive and the negative, the alpha and the omega. God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.

All wars have their foundations in the conflicts of anthropocentrism over philosophy, territory, resources and power.

Earthforce!, 2nd Edition, pp 29-30

Deep stuff

23scidoo

''God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.''

i agree brianlux,but is this not the destination of the human race?..reach the uknown?..touch the stars?..find our inside god?..ad astra per aspera..if you want to go above,you have to go below first..

brianlux

23scidoo said:

''God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.''

i agree brianlux,but is this not the destination of the human race?..reach the uknown?..touch the stars?..find our inside god?..ad astra per aspera..if you want to go above,you have to go below first..

Interesting thought, 23scidoo, but I'm not sure what our destination is other than that on our current path, our destination is extinction of our species and that many, many others that we are taking down with us. The point of Waton's (I said "Wilson earlier by mistake) quote is that most religion is based on anthropocentric thinking which leaves all other life pretty much out of the picture and other than perhaps some indigenous beliefs, particularly American Indian beliefs, ignores the divine nature of everything living and non-living.

Another good quote from Watson:

"The truth is not to be found in Christian icons, Judaic writings, Islamic rules, Buddhist meditations, dianetics or any of the theological inventions of humankind.

The truth cannot be found in political philosophies.

The truth can only be found by realizing that it cannot be found and that all is not knowable, that the infinite can never be comprehended by the finite. The purpose of life is life itself. The purpose of death is rebirth. The purpose of birth is death. The immortality of humanity as in all species is to be found in the Continuum."

This doesn't mean we can't reach for the stars or seek to better understand the unknown but if we do so with the belief that we are separate or better or above all else, or that we can define or find a god or belief we ourselves have invented we will only reach a dead end. If our perspective is that we are a part of a greater whole we might become part of that whole that is undefinable and divine.

know1

brianlux said:

I've long said that as soon as you try to define God, your god is to small. That idea came to me many years ago from reading J.B. Phillips book called Your God is Too Small.

I found a similar, even better description of this idea- one that articulated the thought at least as well as or better than anything I've seen or read anywhere so far- in Captain Paul Watson's book Earthforce! An Earth Warriors Guide to Strategy. In it, Wilson says this:

Christ, Mohammed, Buddha and L. Ron Hubbard were primates, cousins to the chimpanzee and the mountain gorilla just as were all the children of all a species of naked simians. In primateness, we can find family. Although anthropocentric humans may consider themselves to be divine legends in their own mind, the biological reality is that they are simply overly glorified, conceited apes.

God is not a monkey. God is the unknown, the feminine force in divine harmony with the masculine force, the is and the is not, the positive and the negative, the alpha and the omega. God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.

All wars have their foundations in the conflicts of anthropocentrism over philosophy, territory, resources and power.

Earthforce!, 2nd Edition, pp 29-30

Edit: It's WATSON not Wilson. Ooops!

This is pretty close to my feelings on the subject as well.

People who try to define God or deny God's existence because they don't understand God or think God's ways are illogical are being incredibly small-minded and self important. Thinking you should understand everything about God is akin to admitting you think you are God.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

know1 said:

brianlux said:

I've long said that as soon as you try to define God, your god is to small. That idea came to me many years ago from reading J.B. Phillips book called Your God is Too Small.

I found a similar, even better description of this idea- one that articulated the thought at least as well as or better than anything I've seen or read anywhere so far- in Captain Paul Watson's book Earthforce! An Earth Warriors Guide to Strategy. In it, Wilson says this:

Christ, Mohammed, Buddha and L. Ron Hubbard were primates, cousins to the chimpanzee and the mountain gorilla just as were all the children of all a species of naked simians. In primateness, we can find family. Although anthropocentric humans may consider themselves to be divine legends in their own mind, the biological reality is that they are simply overly glorified, conceited apes.

God is not a monkey. God is the unknown, the feminine force in divine harmony with the masculine force, the is and the is not, the positive and the negative, the alpha and the omega. God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.

All wars have their foundations in the conflicts of anthropocentrism over philosophy, territory, resources and power.

Earthforce!, 2nd Edition, pp 29-30

Edit: It's WATSON not Wilson. Ooops!

This is pretty close to my feelings on the subject as well.

People who try to define God or deny God's existence because they don't understand God or think God's ways are illogical are being incredibly small-minded and self important. Thinking you should understand everything about God is akin to admitting you think you are God.

What?

This is arrogance at its finest. Your comment reads as follows: if you don't believe in God, then you are small-minded and self-important.

If I have interpreted your utterings correctly, the irony here is rich. You see... people who think there is a god and he made us to occupy and rule the center of the universe are what I think- to use your words- small-minded and self-important.

brianlux

I'm having a hard time sorting these last two comments out. Can you both clarify a bit?

know1

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

What?

This is arrogance at its finest. Your comment reads as follows: if you don't believe in God, then you are small-minded and self-important.

Nope. Read it again. I said if the REASON you don't believe God is because you can't understand God, then you're being small minded.

PJ_Soul

know1 said:

brianlux said:

I've long said that as soon as you try to define God, your god is to small. That idea came to me many years ago from reading J.B. Phillips book called Your God is Too Small.

I found a similar, even better description of this idea- one that articulated the thought at least as well as or better than anything I've seen or read anywhere so far- in Captain Paul Watson's book Earthforce! An Earth Warriors Guide to Strategy. In it, Wilson says this:

Christ, Mohammed, Buddha and L. Ron Hubbard were primates, cousins to the chimpanzee and the mountain gorilla just as were all the children of all a species of naked simians. In primateness, we can find family. Although anthropocentric humans may consider themselves to be divine legends in their own mind, the biological reality is that they are simply overly glorified, conceited apes.

God is not a monkey. God is the unknown, the feminine force in divine harmony with the masculine force, the is and the is not, the positive and the negative, the alpha and the omega. God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.

All wars have their foundations in the conflicts of anthropocentrism over philosophy, territory, resources and power.

Earthforce!, 2nd Edition, pp 29-30

Edit: It's WATSON not Wilson. Ooops!

This is pretty close to my feelings on the subject as well.

People who try to define God or deny God's existence because they don't understand God or think God's ways are illogical are being incredibly small-minded and self important. Thinking you should understand everything about God is akin to admitting you think you are God.

I don't deny God's existence because I don't understand God or that his ways are illogical (my last post was a joke btw). I don't believe in God because the very idea that God exists is completely illogical. The theory of not being able to deny God because there is no proof that he DOESN'T exist is a completely illogical theory. That is literally the same as saying that no one can deny the existence of a 100 foot long pink dragon that breathes cotton candy and can move things with his mind. He also has full control of how smart or dumb each of us are. He decides it when we're born, not when we're conceived. You can't deny the existence of said dragon because I just made him up and I claim that he exists. I even wrote a book about him! It's really good. So you believe in him, right? If not, it's because you are small-minded and don't understand him, mkay?

I can't not understand or believe to be illogical what I don't think exists in the first place. My atheism has nothing to do with not understanding something. I was surprised to see you call Atheists small-minded and self-important.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

know1 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

What?

This is arrogance at its finest. Your comment reads as follows: if you don't believe in God, then you are small-minded and self-important.

Nope. Read it again. I said if the REASON you don't believe God is because you can't understand God, then you're being small minded.

I read it again. You defined three different types of people as being small-minded. Here's what you said (with the three different people in parentheses):

People who try to define God (person #1) or deny God's existence because they don't understand God (person #2) or think God's ways are illogical (person #3) are being incredibly small-minded and self important.

The statement is most certainly critical of many non-believers.

23scidoo

brianlux said:

23scidoo said:

''God is everything and anything that can be imagined, but the one thing God is not is definable. Attempts by the anthropocentrists to define the unknown, to finite the infinite, have only led and continue to lead to ecological holocaust and the deaths of billions of lives.''

i agree brianlux,but is this not the destination of the human race?..reach the uknown?..touch the stars?..find our inside god?..ad astra per aspera..if you want to go above,you have to go below first..

Interesting thought, 23scidoo, but I'm not sure what our destination is other than that on our current path, our destination is extinction of our species and that many, many others that we are taking down with us. The point of Waton's (I said "Wilson earlier by mistake) quote is that most religion is based on anthropocentric thinking which leaves all other life pretty much out of the picture and other than perhaps some indigenous beliefs, particularly American Indian beliefs, ignores the divine nature of everything living and non-living.

Another good quote from Watson:

"The truth is not to be found in Christian icons, Judaic writings, Islamic rules, Buddhist meditations, dianetics or any of the theological inventions of humankind.

The truth cannot be found in political philosophies.

The truth can only be found by realizing that it cannot be found and that all is not knowable, that the infinite can never be comprehended by the finite. The purpose of life is life itself. The purpose of death is rebirth. The purpose of birth is death. The immortality of humanity as in all species is to be found in the Continuum."

This doesn't mean we can't reach for the stars or seek to better understand the unknown but if we do so with the belief that we are separate or better or above all else, or that we can define or find a god or belief we ourselves have invented we will only reach a dead end. If our perspective is that we are a part of a greater whole we might become part of that whole that is undefinable and divine.

i'm not follower of any religion and i don't know if there is a god or not..but most of all, i don't believe almost nobody who tells me he got the truth..the truth is something subjective i guess..if you ask a christian he tells you:yes man its true,i know..and yes.. its true for him..if you ask a buddhist,he tells you the same..and he can fly for his god or walk on the water..i'm more interesting for the questions but the answers..i agree again,we are parts of the big picture..if we start wonder about what the fuck is going on here and who the fuck we are..we gonna have two results..a better planet and better hymanity..eddie said..i'm a seed wondering why it grows..you sould visit a greek island..standing at the sunset above of the sea..behind you few white houses with blue windows..starting wonder..