There is no god

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BTW Godfather, that last post of yours not only contained exact punctuation with the quotations and everything... the spelling was bang on.

What the hell, man?

On edit: sorry, man. In disbelief, I checked again and you omitted the period. Things are normal again!

) you rock Brother ! I love a good laugh in the morning thank you !

Godfather.

Cheers!

23scidoo

brianlux said:

23scidoo said:

In Greeks,the word God,is the word Theos(θεος)..the word ''Theos'' came from the ancient greek word ''theomai'',which is mean manifest..so,the ancient Greeks call them Gods,cause they can see them..once upon a time the Gods are among us and they are interactive with people..

now,make the connections..

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12-12-Sirius

2-feign-reluctance

Real brain sweat going on in here guys and gals....wow!

rgambs

2-feign-reluctance said:

Real brain sweat going on in here guys and gals....wow!

If you go back a few pages there was some serious discourse hombre.

rgambs

I'll bring it back up a notch! Caliban Upon Setebos by Robert Browning


http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173004

This is probably my single favorite non-epic length poem. Caliban is the half-monster slave who serves Prospero in The Tempest. Setebos is the god Caliban's mom taught him about. This is Browning's way of dealing with the concept of God in a post Darwinian world. A note, think of the pronoun "I" or his name "Caliban" in place of the apostrophes.

PJfanwillneverleave1

rgambs said:

I'll bring it back up a notch! Caliban Upon Setebos by Robert Browning

Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'

rgambs

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rgambs said:

I'll bring it back up a notch! Caliban Upon Setebos by Robert Browning

Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'

???

PJfanwillneverleave1

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rgambs said:

I'll bring it back up a notch! Caliban Upon Setebos by Robert Browning

Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'

???

Just mentioning a poem I like. Nothingmore.

rgambs

Oh OK lol, I thought maybe there was a connection I was missing.

brianlux

2-feign-reluctance said:

Real brain sweat going on in here guys and gals....wow!

Haha! Yes indeed. Yet as rgambs pointed out, this thread has had its more serious, studious, thoughtful, perhaps even pedantic moments.

But wait! Why does a conversation about god or God or Gods need to be serious? Surely if God is reflected in the world around us (a weak argument in my opinion but one I'm at least willing to entertain) how can that God not be seen as having a multiplicity of characteristics? Everything from the proverbial sublime to the ridiculous. A little ridiculousness is good for balancing things out. If God is seen, for example, in the beauty of nature or a well phrased poem, surely God is also seen in puns, gaffs, off the wall nonsense and, without a doubt, STUFF!

Annafalk

I don't think we humans can understand God.

23scidoo

Annafalk said:

I don't think we humans can understand God.

there be a time soon..

rgambs

Annafalk said:

I don't think we humans can understand God.

That is an entirely unproductive line of thought. Like saying, we humans can't understand particle physics or neurology, so why bother getting serious about it.

Annafalk

rgambs said:

Annafalk said:

I don't think we humans can understand God.

That is an entirely unproductive line of thought. Like saying, we humans can't understand particle physics or neurology, so why bother getting serious about it.

I'm sorry but I didn't mean that we can't understand God at all. I think God is very present everywhere and we can communicate with him anytime with our thoughts, like a best friend.
But I accept that there are things that I as a human can't fully understand about God's plan for everything.

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rgambs said:

I'll bring it back up a notch! Caliban Upon Setebos by Robert Browning

Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'

Is that God tapping at my chamber door? :-??

rgambs

Annafalk said:

rgambs said:

Annafalk said:

I don't think we humans can understand God.

That is an entirely unproductive line of thought. Like saying, we humans can't understand particle physics or neurology, so why bother getting serious about it.

I'm sorry but I didn't mean that we can't understand God at all. I think God is very present everywhere and we can communicate with him anytime with our thoughts, like a best friend.
But I accept that there are things that I as a human can't fully understand about God's plan for everything.

That God has a plan for everything is a scary thought. That means God plans for children to get raped, for women to be kept in Castro torture basements, for men, women, and children to lead entire lives of physical and emotion pain.

rgambs

"Making and marring clay at will? So He."
"Thinketh, such shows nor right nor wrong in him,
Nor kind or cruel: He is strong and Lord. ...
Let twenty pass, and stone the twenty-first,
Loving not, hating not, just choosing so."

badbrains

PJ_Soul said:

chadwick said:

who says god is only purely fantastic, pleasant, cheerful & only is for goodness? norse dick!
god would be a nasty nasty energy just as equally surrounded by angels w/ harps playing in a waterfall pool sitting on rocks eating grapes or a tornado or whatever

what humans (if we can call them humans) do alot of the time is evil. freewill isn't it?

we've all heard the saying - "can't have good without bad" or however it is stated
god & satan are one (hell aint on fire underground, heaven aint on clouds)
get used to it

The First Testament depicts God as a complete prick. Allah doesn't come off so cheery in the Koran either. The idea that he's only kind and loving is pretty new age, actually.

Curious as to your views on Judaism? I've seen you rip apart Islam and Christianity, is Judaism off the table when it comes to ripping on religion. I could be wrong but I haven't seen anything written from you on Judaism. Just curious, are u afraid of being labeled an anti-Semite or something? Maybe I'm wrong and you have ripped it apart?

rgambs

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

chadwick said:

who says god is only purely fantastic, pleasant, cheerful & only is for goodness? norse dick!
god would be a nasty nasty energy just as equally surrounded by angels w/ harps playing in a waterfall pool sitting on rocks eating grapes or a tornado or whatever

what humans (if we can call them humans) do alot of the time is evil. freewill isn't it?

we've all heard the saying - "can't have good without bad" or however it is stated
god & satan are one (hell aint on fire underground, heaven aint on clouds)
get used to it

The First Testament depicts God as a complete prick. Allah doesn't come off so cheery in the Koran either. The idea that he's only kind and loving is pretty new age, actually.

Curious as to your views on Judaism? I've seen you rip apart Islam and Christianity, is Judaism off the table when it comes to ripping on religion. I could be wrong but I haven't seen anything written from you on Judaism. Just curious, are u afraid of being labeled an anti-Semite or something? Maybe I'm wrong and you have ripped it apart?

Sorry, not my place to jump in here, but the old testament IS Judaism.

JWPearl

first testament God was not what you say a prick!
he simply allowed all those not worshiping him insulting him with idols and pagan worship to other Gods which were really backed by his fallen angel the betrayor the devil,
to be destroyed including their offspring because he is a jealous God exacting exclusive devotion because he created all things for his and his sons pleasure with love included and subjection from his subjects and that is fair enough, so he can,
who are you to question a master mind with your lowly thoughts and ways when his is far superior and has I'm sure a reason unknown to all for everything,
as the bible say, past tracing out his way are in other words nobody can know it all and it is perfection after all we are his creation as mere grasshoppers