THE LINE & "THE LIST"

Mamasan Bren

So I assume the lining up has begun. But where? Anyone down there? Which of the gates are the GA rail-seekers camping out at?

pdalowsky

The line has indeed begun.....at around 1am.

no idea which gate

Boxes&Books

Mamasan Bren wrote:

So I assume the lining up has begun. But where? Anyone down there? Which of the gates are the GA rail-seekers camping out at?

Not really. You can enter at any gate. People are around, but no one is really lining up.

shmap

According to the three fellas I just spoke with, an official gate for GA hasn't been decided yet, and we're not even "supposed to" line up until 2.

Lost In Ohio

PJ_Soul wrote:

I'm not a liner upper, but what I just don't understand at all is why anyone at all has to suffer in a line up all day. Why not just devise a system where people get a number on a first come first serve basis, and EVERYONE then takes off until half an hour before the doors open. Anyone still standing in a line would just be crazy. This seems so unbelievably simple and obvious to me, and would serve absolutely everyone's best interests. Sure there might be a line up for the number assignment, but that would obviously be a list free line up, and one that stops at, say, 10am the day of the show (at which time the numbets start getting distributed) so that everyone can go and enjoy their day and get to the show fresh and rested instead of disgusting, stinky, and tired. Or better yet, PJ should just do what they do for the Springsteen shows. That system is perfect.

5:30 - Random number distribution starts.
6:30 - Pit invasion begins
7:30 - Show starts.

Say there's 1000 GA pairs. Each pair of tickets is worth one random number. Say 825 is drawn. That number is first to go in, followed by 826 to 1000. Number 1 lines up after 1000. Number 824 is last.

You enter in small groups to prevent stampedes.

People that snooze and miss the number allocation?? They go in after the last number.



Better yet? Randomly print numbers on the tickets and do it that way...number 1 would be on two tickets, etc.

pdalowsky

well theres an official list with numbers on hands doing the rounds, probably best bet to go seek out the two ladies whom were compiling that since the early hours.

pdalowsky

pdalowsky wrote:

well theres an official list with numbers on hands doing the rounds, probably best bet to go seek out the two ladies whom were compiling that since the early hours.

I should have stated 'official'.......fan led and drawn up official.....you know what I mean......nothing official official

shmap

How is the list going to be enforced when there are several entry points?

faceintheclouds

EvilClosetMonkey wrote:

good luck having the list enforced..

really? how hard did you have to work to get your London or Wrigley tix? we know lists don't apply to you.

EchosNobodyHears

Anyone know what the long line is on the earthcam link that has been posted? Looks like its going Will Call window, so I assume its not the GA line. Anyone know?

Also, have they decided what gate(s) GA is lining up at?

dana_b

shmap wrote:

How is the list going to be enforced when there are several entry points?

And how is it going to be enforced when many people don't even know about this all powerful list because maybe they are showing up to Wrigley now and hanging around until they are allowed to line up?

This kind of crap is just that (imo) - crap!

ryph raph

NO SPONGING ON THE LINE TO GET IN.

Mamasan Bren

dana_b wrote:

shmap wrote:

How is the list going to be enforced when there are several entry points?

And how is it going to be enforced when many people don't even know about this all powerful list because maybe they are showing up to Wrigley now and hanging around until they are allowed to line up?

This kind of crap is just that (imo) - crap!

Totally agree. I hope it's not going down. So shitty. Drop the list, drop the list....

Mamasan Bren

Hey since I didn't wait out, I'm curious as to what went down. Can anyone share their experiences. Obviously the rain delay wiped out positions for most. I guess it was different with the 3 gates letting in at once. Was there a list at all, or any crazed Adolph Listlers?

DarbyCrash

The list actually worked out really well, thanks to a gentleman named Graham. I got there at about 7am and was frantically asking everyone I saw what the main gate would be. We heard a million different answers, but then finally Graham came up to me and told me about "the list." Everyone was assigned a number in order of their arrival. Graham spoke with the Cubs security people and convinced them to honor our unofficial system and they did! The whole process was peaceful. There were two girls who ended up cutting in front of us (probably about 10 people in), and I wanted to say something but I thought better of it. I got the rail anyway, how could I complain?? There were a few people who rebelled against the way Graham was doing things, and said there was no way the people in charge would go for that, and they ended up losing out on their spot. My advice...stick with the lifelong members who have been to the GA shows in Europe and South America. They know what they're doing.

shmap

I'd say it worked out as well as could be expected! Cubs security let us line up in the player lot for a few hours, then took us to the GA gate, and allowed us to police ourselves. I was incredibly lucky to have great company in line (#40-52ish), though I've since forgotten some names: Chris and his brother, the couple from Minnesota (rewarded for their enthusiasm with a tambourine!), Bob, the others who joined in under the godsend of a canopy...we looked out for each other when the rain came, and made sure that we got each other back to the rail. The camaraderie was a huge factor in the overall splendor of the day.

Princess Bulldozer

shmap wrote:

I'd say it worked out as well as could be expected! Cubs security let us line up in the player lot for a few hours, then took us to the GA gate, and allowed us to police ourselves. I was incredibly lucky to have great company in line (#40-52ish), though I've since forgotten some names: Chris and his brother, the couple from Minnesota (rewarded for their enthusiasm with a tambourine!), Bob, the others who joined in under the godsend of a canopy...we looked out for each other when the rain came, and made sure that we got each other back to the rail. The camaraderie was a huge factor in the overall splendor of the day.

This is what the line should be!

MaxGoldenrod

It did seem to work well for those who were there before noon.
While I understand the concept of the list, it doesn't mean I'm a fan of it

We chose to try for merch instead, knowing full well that by doing so, we weren't getting the rail. We ended up about 4th row in front of Stone. The groups around it's were very cool, even had a couple of taller guys volunteer to shift around so my wife (who is all of 5'2") would be able to see.

Once the rain came though, it got ugly. We knew we had been as close as we were going to be for the night.

Those on the "list" became ugly, thinking they were entitled to be on the rail again. Not towards me, but I noticed it towards others. Uncalled for, to say the least.

Then, once they opened up the floodgates to let us back in, their actions of blocking the crowd so they could be first back in could have very easily resulted in someone being hurt, a the surge from along the left field line was massive, and very uncomfortable. Guess what? Mother nature made the rules.

Like I said, I get the idea, and it works in most situations, like in Amsterdam last summer (I was on it), but it doesn't work in a situation like last night, when the entire field had to be evacuated.

Suziemay

DarbyCrash wrote:

The list actually worked out really well, thanks to a gentleman named Graham. I got there at about 7am and was frantically asking everyone I saw what the main gate would be. We heard a million different answers, but then finally Graham came up to me and told me about "the list." Everyone was assigned a number in order of their arrival. Graham spoke with the Cubs security people and convinced them to honor our unofficial system and they did! The whole process was peaceful. There were two girls who ended up cutting in front of us (probably about 10 people in), and I wanted to say something but I thought better of it. I got the rail anyway, how could I complain?? There were a few people who rebelled against the way Graham was doing things, and said there was no way the people in charge would go for that, and they ended up losing out on their spot. My advice...stick with the lifelong members who have been to the GA shows in Europe and South America. They know what they're doing.

Graham was a rockstar for getting us organized. It was probably the most peaceful ga line I've been in (this was my 7th ga show) and probably the most challenging circumstances with the multiple entrances and lack of info. We miraculously managed to organize ourselves into one list with little fuss even though originally there were queues forming at at least 3 gates.

For people who say the people advocating for the list are elitist, I'm not sure where this is coming from. The intent of the list is to get us organized and hopefully avoid the inevitable queue cutters who show up at 5pm and try to pretend that they have been there since 3 am. With a list you can at least point to it and say that their name is not in there. It's not perfect but it's the best system we've got without any formal system in place. It is not a list where people come, put down the names of 10 friends and then leave for the rest of the day. At Wrigley, we were all pretty much hanging around and checking in with each other when we left to go take showers or get lunch and stuff but for the most part everyone was on board and respectful. It actually seemed a lot more civilized than the merch lines!

Too bad all that effort was only good for 7 songs :( I managed to get back on the rail thanks to a kind soul who let me squeeze into a narrow spot in front of him (thanks Sean) but many were not that lucky. Do I think I was entitled to the rail after the rain because I was on it when the show started? Absofuckinglutely. Do I think I'm entitled to be rude and violent to get there? No way. I don't blame others for using the opportunity to get there when they hadn't put in the same amout of effort to get there, however I don't think it's right that people were plotting on how to get to the front when they had been way back in the floor before. I'm resentful of the way the reentry was managed (as in, there was zero management and it was a total shit show). People were pushing before they removed the barricades and I was really worried about a stampede. I was shocked that there wasn't any announcements over the pa system reminding people to stay safe and I thought for sure that there would be injuries. When the barricades opened it was a free for all; I ended up running between the seats just because I didn't want to be near anyone else and that actually worked out well for me. My friend ran in with everyone else, got pushed and shoved and was in tears by the time she got back into the pit. Just awful. This cannot be the first time a concert with ga has gotten delayed in the history of Wrigley concerts and it was apparent that there was no plan for getting us out and then back in in an orderly fashion, despite them knowing about the bad weather coming.

All in all, worse ga experience for me. Rail was great obviously but the process of getting to that point and the reentry after rain delay was awful. I don't think I will go to another Wrigley show if they ever have one.

morello

Nice to hear it mostly worked yesterday, apart from the re-entry. I'll keep my fingers crossed for good GA 'list' management & participation on the west coast in the fall. See you then people.