Doesn't somebody even like you ever wonder why riots in Sweden and other countries happen and the excuse is the people who's country it is, are not doing their best to help these people. I find that odd. Stick to yourself, and don't want to integrate, yet it is your new countries problem. Not just muslims, but as your read puts it, they are the (insert) de jour.
I don't think it has anything to with the native (insert: 'white') people of Western countries 'not doing their best to help these people'. The issue here is hatemongering, bigotry, and violence against Muslims. And where did you come up with the idea that Muslims don't wish to integrate? I knew many Muslims in London who integrated just fine.
Think it’s herd mentality that’s used by those in power to keep us at strife as this expands their wealth and power.
All humans have same basic human needs and when those are met, we are fine. It’s when our leaders (state as well as religious) use our inherent drive to protect the herd and use this instinctive trait to blast the other team and that’s when we raise our arms against them. “USA USA USA” “Kill the Infidels” Hence why it’s so important to not wage war on another country, because this will ensure decades of easy propaganda to be used to easily control the herd. Invasion of Iraq.
Drop bombs and we have enemies for life.
When I speak to one of my fellow humans that feels the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim I remind them that they are people like you and I that have families, want secure safe place to sleep and some good grub now and then. I then get a blank stare as they ponder Muslims not being blood thirsty Christian killers.
Doesn't somebody even like you ever wonder why riots in Sweden and other countries happen and the excuse is the people who's country it is, are not doing their best to help these people. I find that odd. Stick to yourself, and don't want to integrate, yet it is your new countries problem. Not just muslims, but as your read puts it, they are the (insert) de jour.
I don't think it has anything to with the native (insert: 'white') people of Western countries 'not doing their best to help these people'. The issue here is hatemongering, bigotry, and violence against Muslims. And where did you come up with the idea that Muslims don't wish to integrate? I knew many Muslims in London who integrated just fine.
Think it’s herd mentality that’s used by those in power to keep us at strife as this expands their wealth and power.
All humans have same basic human needs and when those are met, we are fine. It’s when our leaders (state as well as religious) use our inherent drive to protect the herd and use this instinctive trait to blast the other team and that’s when we raise our arms against them. “USA USA USA” “Kill the Infidels” Hence why it’s so important to not wage war on another country, because this will ensure decades of easy propaganda to be used to easily control the herd. Invasion of Iraq.
Drop bombs and we have enemies for life.
When I speak to one of my fellow humans that feels the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim I remind them that they are people like you and I that have families, want secure safe place to sleep and some good grub now and then. I then get a blank stare as they ponder Muslims not being blood thirsty Christian killers.
I can't believe there are actually people out there who would talk like that.... I think that if they are callous and stupid enough to think that way in the first place, they are probably beyond hope, and who cares what they think anyway? ... at least who cares until the is a big enough population of idiots to vote one of them into the federal government.
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HFD what I ment was not all of them were born here.
my comments on this thread are half sarcastic but my feeling of the muslim people are no seacret here,I still think they sheoul be sent back or turned around before they get here.
I'll just leave it at that and not argue our feeling's on the matter sense they're both personal opinions.
Godfather.
Vast majority of people of Muslim faith have nothing to do with terrorism, of any kind. That is a fact godfather, nothing to do with personal opinion
well man I hate to say it but...prove it.
that aside your point has been taken, thanks'
Godfather.
that sounds like the KKK asking black people to prove themselves equal back in the old days. that is just clear fucking prejudice.
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Vast majority of people of Muslim faith have nothing to do with terrorism, of any kind. That is a fact godfather, nothing to do with personal opinion
well man I hate to say it but...prove it.
that aside your point has been taken, thanks'
Godfather.
that sounds like the KKK asking black people to prove themselves equal back in the old days. that is just clear fucking prejudice.
Agreed. Godfather, you are an extremist yourself.... I would think that you'd feel some kind of kinship with or understanding of extremist Muslims rather than prejudice.
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When I speak to one of my fellow humans that feels the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim I remind them that they are people like you and I that have families, want secure safe place to sleep and some good grub now and then. I then get a blank stare as they ponder Muslims not being blood thirsty Christian killers.
this is exactly the reason I'd never go to war for my country. the guy I'm trying to kill in the name of my government is no different than me; probably has a wife and kids and just wants to make it home alive to see them again.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
When I speak to one of my fellow humans that feels the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim I remind them that they are people like you and I that have families, want secure safe place to sleep and some good grub now and then. I then get a blank stare as they ponder Muslims not being blood thirsty Christian killers.
this is exactly the reason I'd never go to war for my country. the guy I'm trying to kill in the name of my government is no different than me; probably has a wife and kids and just wants to make it home alive to see them again.
Or not.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I still think they sheoul be sent back or turned around before they get here.
Godfather.
And how would one go about that, Godfather? Would all non US visitors have to declare their religion before entering the US with the 'undesirable' religions being turned back? Or is one looking at the muslims of middle eastern appearance? Or only certain nationalities? My husband is white and british. Should he be a muslim, would he be 'turned around'?
Or is it when you speak of muslims, you are speaking of 'arabs'?
I still think they sheoul be sent back or turned around before they get here.
Godfather.
And how would one go about that, Godfather? Would all non US visitors have to declare their religion before entering the US with the 'undesirable' religions being turned back? Or is one looking at the muslims of middle eastern appearance? Or only certain nationalities? My husband is white and british. Should he be a muslim, would he be 'turned around'?
Or is it when you speak of muslims, you are speaking of 'arabs'?
And don't forget all the Indians who are Muslim.... My close Muslim friend is ethnically Indian, was born in and grew up in Fiji, and then immigrated to Thailand... although attended only American schools in the far East and went to university in Canada. Oh, and his parents are both UN ambassadors. Muslim ones. Where would he fall in as far as Godfather is concerned. :think:
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all I can say is read the news man,have you ever heard of a islamic group building hosiptals or giving money to non muslim charitys ? there's a islamic church about 10 blocks from my house and believe me they seem to have no interest in anybody outside their church..infact I have on quite a few occasions seen them outside the church posting signs about our military and jumping up and down screaming some kind of bullshit, if it were up to me I'd just ship all their ass's back to where they came from.
Godfather.
First of all it's a mosque........and secondly, does this mean I can't go see PJ at wrigley? Do I have to leave this country that I've lived in for over 36 years????? :roll:
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yeahhhh !!!!!
Godfather.
Umm I'd wager that about 99%+ of Muslims adhere to this principle.
If memory serves you claim Christian, Yes? Then let me paint YOU with the same brush I'd use on that dirtbag Fred Phelps.
Guess what, the God of Abraham is the same God for ALL THREE. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
The similarities between Judaism and Islam in dietary practice and other areas is stagering given the longstanding animosity.
Islam credits Jesus as being a wise Prophet.
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I still think they sheoul be sent back or turned around before they get here.
Godfather.
And how would one go about that, Godfather? Would all non US visitors have to declare their religion before entering the US with the 'undesirable' religions being turned back? Or is one looking at the muslims of middle eastern appearance? Or only certain nationalities? My husband is white and british. Should he be a muslim, would he be 'turned around'?
Or is it when you speak of muslims, you are speaking of 'arabs'?
And don't forget all the Indians who are Muslim.... My close Muslim friend is ethnically Indian, was born in and grew up in Fiji, and then immigrated to Thailand... although attended only American schools in the far East and went to university in Canada. Oh, and his parents are both UN ambassadors. Muslim ones. Where would he fall in as far as Godfather is concerned. :think:
And Indonesians, chinese, russians, from the balkans. Not to mention all the european countries.....
A faith crosses over country boundaries, races, etc.
Let's put this into perspective...
Facts:
The vast majority of the people who commit terrorist acts, claim to be Muslim.
The vast majority of Ku Klux Klansmen claim Christianity as their religion.
...
Conclusions:
We can easily accept the fact that Not all Christians are Klansmen.
Why can't we accept the fact that all muslims are not terrorists?
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Hail, Hail!!!
Let's put this into perspective...
Facts:
The vast majority of the people who commit terrorist acts, claim to be Muslim.
The vast majority of Ku Klux Klansmen claim Christianity as their religion.
...
Conclusions:
We can easily accept the fact that Not all Christians are Klansmen.
Why can't we accept the fact that all muslims are not terrorists?
because I'm bull headed and pissed off about all the terrorest acts honor killing's etc. being done by muslim people and now I don't trust any of them...yeah yeah I know it's not politicaly correct but neither is a muslim terrorest or a muslim father/husband that kills out of some misguided honer .
I not asking anybody to follow my opinion or even agree with me,right now this is how I feel about the whole mess.
Let's put this into perspective...
Facts:
The vast majority of the people who commit terrorist acts, claim to be Muslim.
The vast majority of Ku Klux Klansmen claim Christianity as their religion.
...
Conclusions:
We can easily accept the fact that Not all Christians are Klansmen.
Why can't we accept the fact that all muslims are not terrorists?
I completely agree with the sentiment behind your statement Cosmo.... although I don't think that the KKK and Islamic extremists can be compared at all.
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because I'm bull headed and pissed off about all the terrorest acts honor killing's etc. being done by muslim people and now I don't trust any of them...yeah yeah I know it's not politicaly correct but neither is a muslim terrorest or a muslim father/husband that kills out of some misguided honer .
I not asking anybody to follow my opinion or even agree with me,right now this is how I feel about the whole mess.
Godfather.
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That's cool. You are admitting to being prejudice. My take is, there is nothing wrong with being prejudiced towards an entire group of people as long as you are up front and take ownership of it.
Just don't pretend to be a good person or tell us what a good Christian you are or about your virtuous nature towards people. You are in the same class as the Rev. Phelps Westboro Church clan with the only difference being, they hate Fags, you hate Muslims. To me, I really don't care who you hate... just own up to your hatred.
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Let's put this into perspective...
Facts:
The vast majority of the people who commit terrorist acts, claim to be Muslim.
The vast majority of Ku Klux Klansmen claim Christianity as their religion.
...
Conclusions:
We can easily accept the fact that Not all Christians are Klansmen.
Why can't we accept the fact that all muslims are not terrorists?
I completely agree with the sentiment behind your statement Cosmo.... although I don't think that the KKK and Islamic extremists can be compared at all.
...
My logic being...
Terrorist groups (such as al Qaeda) are to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity.
...
or... Most al Qaeda are Muslim and most Klansmen are Chrisitans.
...
Both groups are radical militant wings that twist holy scripture as justification for violent means.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Let's put this into perspective...
Facts:
The vast majority of the people who commit terrorist acts, claim to be Muslim.
The vast majority of Ku Klux Klansmen claim Christianity as their religion.
...
Conclusions:
We can easily accept the fact that Not all Christians are Klansmen.
Why can't we accept the fact that all muslims are not terrorists?
I completely agree with the sentiment behind your statement Cosmo.... although I don't think that the KKK and Islamic extremists can be compared at all.
...
My logic being...
Terrorist groups (such as al Qaeda) are to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity.
...
or... Most al Qaeda are Muslim and most Klansmen are Chrisitans.
...
Both groups are radical militant wings that twist holy scripture as justification for violent means.
Yeah, I understand that you are trying to use pure logic here.... But I just don't think it works (probably because there is nothing logical about either or those 2 groups or Godfather's stance But also, the KKK isn't violently religious as a rule. Racism is their main focus, not religion. Yes they talk about white protestants, blah blah, but that isn't their focus. Their focus is more Nazi - a pure race. If that Protestant crap were true, they'd care if their members were Catholic or Atheist, and they don't as far as I know. That's not the case for radical Muslims... the numbers are completely different too.... the KKK is a minute minority. Radical Muslims are a relatively gigantic minority).
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Both groups are radical militant wings that twist holy scripture as justification for violent means.
Yeah, I understand that you are trying to use pure logic here.... But I just don't think it works (probably because there is nothing logical about either or those 2 groups or Godfather's stance ).
...
Basically, a person who thinks that because of the acts of a violent wing of a religion represents said religion... it should apply it to all religions.
The true measure would be to break the perceived connection between these extremist groups from the religions they claim to represent. Hold them accountable for what they are... criminals and racists, not Muslims or Christians.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Both groups are radical militant wings that twist holy scripture as justification for violent means.
Yeah, I understand that you are trying to use pure logic here.... But I just don't think it works (probably because there is nothing logical about either or those 2 groups or Godfather's stance ).
...
Basically, a person who thinks that because of the acts of a violent wing of a religion represents said religion... it should apply it to all religions.
The true measure would be to break the perceived connection between these extremist groups from the religions they claim to represent. Hold them accountable for what they are... criminals and racists, not Muslims or Christians.
I added to my post after you quoted it.... I don't believe that the KKK are mainly motivated by religion in reality.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I added to my post after you quoted it.... I don't believe that the KKK are mainly motivated by religion in reality.
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But, how many times have you heard them quote the Bible to justify their point of view?
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And true... they are not motivated by Christianity... they USE Christianity as a support in their world view. Bottom line, they know nothing of Christianity if they don't realize that Jesus was a Jew.
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It's interesting that when a Muslim kills an American citizen it's an almost always considered an act of terrorism but when US forces kill countless civilians it's always labeled an act of war. We view it as an unfortunate product of combat in an uncivilized society rather than an unsolicited attack on somebody's family or friends.. We don't give a damn about these people and make sweeping generalizations labelling them as extremists or terrorists. Religion aside, is it any surprise that Al Qaeda has no shortage of willing combatants?
Let's put this into perspective...
Facts:
The vast majority of the people who commit terrorist acts, claim to be Muslim.
The vast majority of Ku Klux Klansmen claim Christianity as their religion.
...
Conclusions:
We can easily accept the fact that Not all Christians are Klansmen.
Why can't we accept the fact that all muslims are not terrorists?
this is correct...and here comes the controled media play their role that convince us that all muslims are carrying bomb vest ready to explode...and they doing a great job make people believe that i must tell you
what i know all this years is fanatics has 1st priority violence,even if its at sports fanatics
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It's interesting that when a Muslim kills an American citizen it's an almost always considered an act of terrorism but when US forces kill countless civilians it's always labeled an act of war. We view it as an unfortunate product of combat in an uncivilized society rather than an unsolicited attack on somebody's family or friends.. We don't give a damn about these people and make sweeping generalizations labelling them as extremists or terrorists. Religion aside, is it any surprise that Al Qaeda has no shortage of willing combatants?
There is a clear difference between terrorism and military action taken by a government, and that difference is namely rooted in intent and motivation. I say that objectively.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
It's interesting that when a Muslim kills an American citizen it's an almost always considered an act of terrorism but when US forces kill countless civilians it's always labeled an act of war. We view it as an unfortunate product of combat in an uncivilized society rather than an unsolicited attack on somebody's family or friends.. We don't give a damn about these people and make sweeping generalizations labelling them as extremists or terrorists. Religion aside, is it any surprise that Al Qaeda has no shortage of willing combatants?
There is a clear difference between terrorism and military action taken by a government, and that difference is namely rooted in intent and motivation. I say that objectively.
we like to see and call it different..both actions leave behind pain,suffer,blood, dead people..
the victims,the one receive the attack, no matter which side ,they call the other side terrorists i must tell you..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It's interesting that when a Muslim kills an American citizen it's an almost always considered an act of terrorism but when US forces kill countless civilians it's always labeled an act of war. We view it as an unfortunate product of combat in an uncivilized society rather than an unsolicited attack on somebody's family or friends.. We don't give a damn about these people and make sweeping generalizations labelling them as extremists or terrorists. Religion aside, is it any surprise that Al Qaeda has no shortage of willing combatants?
There is a clear difference between terrorism and military action taken by a government, and that difference is namely rooted in intent and motivation. I say that objectively.
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or... they are different tactics in the same war.
If al Qaeda had jets and laser guided missiles, they'd use them against us. But, they don't... so they improvise.
Let's say al Qaeda sends an operative to the U.S. to kill a U.S. Drone pilot. He blows himself up as he is standing next to the pilot in line at the Starbucks... killing him (the intended target).
Act of terrorism? Act of War? Are the other victims killed in the blast victims of terrorism... or collateral damage?
...
I'm not taking sides here... just looking for answers.
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It's interesting that when a Muslim kills an American citizen it's an almost always considered an act of terrorism but when US forces kill countless civilians it's always labeled an act of war. We view it as an unfortunate product of combat in an uncivilized society rather than an unsolicited attack on somebody's family or friends.. We don't give a damn about these people and make sweeping generalizations labelling them as extremists or terrorists. Religion aside, is it any surprise that Al Qaeda has no shortage of willing combatants?
There is a clear difference between terrorism and military action taken by a government, and that difference is namely rooted in intent and motivation. I say that objectively.
I have a hard time with that considering many wars are started out of pure self-interest. I say that objectively as well.
There is a clear difference between terrorism and military action taken by a government, and that difference is namely rooted in intent and motivation. I say that objectively.
not the military action the US, British, and even the participating Canadian governments have taken over the course of the last decade and more. the west claims defense with nothing but offense against no clear target other than a geographical area. that's called terrorism.
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That's true... I wouldn't use the word vast, just because about 20 - 30% of the world's Muslim population can be considered extremist now, and that's actually a HUGE number.
It's interesting that when a Muslim kills an American citizen it's an almost always considered an act of terrorism but when US forces kill countless civilians it's always labeled an act of war. We view it as an unfortunate product of combat in an uncivilized society rather than an unsolicited attack on somebody's family or friends.. We don't give a damn about these people and make sweeping generalizations labelling them as extremists or terrorists. Religion aside, is it any surprise that Al Qaeda has no shortage of willing combatants?
There is a clear difference between terrorism and military action taken by a government, and that difference is namely rooted in intent and motivation. I say that objectively.
I have a hard time with that considering many wars are started out of pure self-interest. I say that objectively as well.
Oh, of course. Self-interest wasn't the difference in intent and motivation that I was thinking of. I was more thinking of the fact that, assuming we're talking about the US's military actions here, the US military doesn't go out of its way to murder innocent civilians in order to make a statement and instill fear in a population in the hopes that that will destabilize the government or inspire retaliation that will in turn make others turn against them. Terrorists do. Yes, of course innocent civilians have died from US attacks, and people in the area have been scared, but that wasn't the actual intent of or motivation behind the attacks (however misguided their actual motivation behind them are). That's the difference. Another difference is that there isn't a stable and established government and identifiable leaders directly behind terrorism. When you're talking about actions of war undertaken by a nation's military, there is.
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All humans have same basic human needs and when those are met, we are fine. It’s when our leaders (state as well as religious) use our inherent drive to protect the herd and use this instinctive trait to blast the other team and that’s when we raise our arms against them. “USA USA USA” “Kill the Infidels” Hence why it’s so important to not wage war on another country, because this will ensure decades of easy propaganda to be used to easily control the herd. Invasion of Iraq.
Drop bombs and we have enemies for life.
When I speak to one of my fellow humans that feels the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim I remind them that they are people like you and I that have families, want secure safe place to sleep and some good grub now and then. I then get a blank stare as they ponder Muslims not being blood thirsty Christian killers.
that sounds like the KKK asking black people to prove themselves equal back in the old days. that is just clear fucking prejudice.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
this is exactly the reason I'd never go to war for my country. the guy I'm trying to kill in the name of my government is no different than me; probably has a wife and kids and just wants to make it home alive to see them again.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
And how would one go about that, Godfather? Would all non US visitors have to declare their religion before entering the US with the 'undesirable' religions being turned back? Or is one looking at the muslims of middle eastern appearance? Or only certain nationalities? My husband is white and british. Should he be a muslim, would he be 'turned around'?
Or is it when you speak of muslims, you are speaking of 'arabs'?
First of all it's a mosque........and secondly, does this mean I can't go see PJ at wrigley? Do I have to leave this country that I've lived in for over 36 years????? :roll:
Umm I'd wager that about 99%+ of Muslims adhere to this principle.
If memory serves you claim Christian, Yes? Then let me paint YOU with the same brush I'd use on that dirtbag Fred Phelps.
Guess what, the God of Abraham is the same God for ALL THREE. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
The similarities between Judaism and Islam in dietary practice and other areas is stagering given the longstanding animosity.
Islam credits Jesus as being a wise Prophet.
All are part of the twelve tribes of Abraham.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
And Indonesians, chinese, russians, from the balkans. Not to mention all the european countries.....
A faith crosses over country boundaries, races, etc.
Facts:
The vast majority of the people who commit terrorist acts, claim to be Muslim.
The vast majority of Ku Klux Klansmen claim Christianity as their religion.
...
Conclusions:
We can easily accept the fact that Not all Christians are Klansmen.
Why can't we accept the fact that all muslims are not terrorists?
Hail, Hail!!!
because I'm bull headed and pissed off
I not asking anybody to follow my opinion or even agree with me,right now this is how I feel about the whole mess.
Godfather.
That's cool. You are admitting to being prejudice. My take is, there is nothing wrong with being prejudiced towards an entire group of people as long as you are up front and take ownership of it.
Just don't pretend to be a good person or tell us what a good Christian you are or about your virtuous nature towards people. You are in the same class as the Rev. Phelps Westboro Church clan with the only difference being, they hate Fags, you hate Muslims. To me, I really don't care who you hate... just own up to your hatred.
Hail, Hail!!!
My logic being...
Terrorist groups (such as al Qaeda) are to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity.
...
or... Most al Qaeda are Muslim and most Klansmen are Chrisitans.
...
Both groups are radical militant wings that twist holy scripture as justification for violent means.
Hail, Hail!!!
Basically, a person who thinks that because of the acts of a violent wing of a religion represents said religion... it should apply it to all religions.
The true measure would be to break the perceived connection between these extremist groups from the religions they claim to represent. Hold them accountable for what they are... criminals and racists, not Muslims or Christians.
Hail, Hail!!!
But, how many times have you heard them quote the Bible to justify their point of view?
...
And true... they are not motivated by Christianity... they USE Christianity as a support in their world view. Bottom line, they know nothing of Christianity if they don't realize that Jesus was a Jew.
Hail, Hail!!!
what i know all this years is fanatics has 1st priority violence,even if its at sports fanatics
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
the victims,the one receive the attack, no matter which side ,they call the other side terrorists i must tell you..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
or... they are different tactics in the same war.
If al Qaeda had jets and laser guided missiles, they'd use them against us. But, they don't... so they improvise.
Let's say al Qaeda sends an operative to the U.S. to kill a U.S. Drone pilot. He blows himself up as he is standing next to the pilot in line at the Starbucks... killing him (the intended target).
Act of terrorism? Act of War? Are the other victims killed in the blast victims of terrorism... or collateral damage?
...
I'm not taking sides here... just looking for answers.
Hail, Hail!!!
I have a hard time with that considering many wars are started out of pure self-interest. I say that objectively as well.
not the military action the US, British, and even the participating Canadian governments have taken over the course of the last decade and more. the west claims defense with nothing but offense against no clear target other than a geographical area. that's called terrorism.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Where do you get this number from?