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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Godfather. wrote:

    your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.

    Godfather.
    Do you mean ask them what they think of muslims? Or Islamophobia? Or...?
    Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?

    Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid.
    http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
    I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.

    In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.

    http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... lamophobia

    Islamophobia

    Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.

    Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.





    Peaceful Tomorrows; which is coordinated by leftwing public relations specialist David Fenton, and funded by the left grant-giving Tides Foundation; is an antiwar support organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Formed as a supposedly nonpartisan group opposing the War on Terror.

    The Tides Foundation itself is just another foundation in a lengthy line of liberal grant-giving groups that finance far-left causes and organizations. Tides also provides support to Islamic Networks, Inc. – a public relations institute whose aim is to convince Americans that Islam doesn't oppress women, despite the evidence to the contrary. In addition, Tides funds the Democratic Justice Fund, founded in cooperation with George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Also receiving grants from Tides are such bigwigs as various chapters of the ACLU and The National Lawyers Guild, and MoveOn.org, which compared Bush to Hitler. WHAT! (I thought only crazy right wingers did that...gezz I guess Obama is NOT the only prez compared to Hitler as I have read on the MT).
    Heading up the direction of Peaceful Tomorrows’ media blitz is David Fenton. Fenton has had his hands in all things big and small with regards to the media campaigns of some of the aforementioned liberal activist groups.
    Aside from simply covering various aspects of the counter-culture and anti-war movements, Fenton and his Liberation News Service associates, headed by Allen Young and George Cavalletto, were sympathetic to the radical anti-establishment organization Students for a Democratic Society, and set out to run their own group with the goal of effecting political change to the tune of their overtly Marxist philosophy. Fenton’s political ideology, as well, found him as a member of the White Panther Party, the Caucasian counterpart of the infamous Black Panthers. In the 60’s and early 70’s, Fenton also snapped photographs for the Weathermen, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society, whose anarchistic national views led to their bombing of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol building, the New York City Police Headquarters and the Pentagon.


    PEACEful Tomorrow? I will have to check this out more closely.....
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    aerial wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:

    your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.

    Godfather.
    Do you mean ask them what they think of muslims? Or Islamophobia? Or...?
    Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?

    Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid.
    http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
    I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.

    In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.

    http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... lamophobia

    Islamophobia

    Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.

    Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.





    Peaceful Tomorrows; which is coordinated by leftwing public relations specialist David Fenton, and funded by the left grant-giving Tides Foundation; is an antiwar support organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Formed as a supposedly nonpartisan group opposing the War on Terror.

    The Tides Foundation itself is just another foundation in a lengthy line of liberal grant-giving groups that finance far-left causes and organizations. Tides also provides support to Islamic Networks, Inc. – a public relations institute whose aim is to convince Americans that Islam doesn't oppress women, despite the evidence to the contrary. In addition, Tides funds the Democratic Justice Fund, founded in cooperation with George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Also receiving grants from Tides are such bigwigs as various chapters of the ACLU and The National Lawyers Guild, and MoveOn.org, which compared Bush to Hitler. WHAT! (I thought only crazy right wingers did that...gezz I guess Obama is NOT the only prez compared to Hitler as I have read on the MT).
    Heading up the direction of Peaceful Tomorrows’ media blitz is David Fenton. Fenton has had his hands in all things big and small with regards to the media campaigns of some of the aforementioned liberal activist groups.
    Aside from simply covering various aspects of the counter-culture and anti-war movements, Fenton and his Liberation News Service associates, headed by Allen Young and George Cavalletto, were sympathetic to the radical anti-establishment organization Students for a Democratic Society, and set out to run their own group with the goal of effecting political change to the tune of their overtly Marxist philosophy. Fenton’s political ideology, as well, found him as a member of the White Panther Party, the Caucasian counterpart of the infamous Black Panthers. In the 60’s and early 70’s, Fenton also snapped photographs for the Weathermen, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society, whose anarchistic national views led to their bombing of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol building, the New York City Police Headquarters and the Pentagon.


    PEACEful Tomorrow? I will have to check this out more closely.....


    wow...don't sound so peaceful to me.

    Godfather.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Godfather. wrote:
    your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??

    Godfather.
    Godfather. wrote:
    your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.

    Godfather.

    Im with Cosmo on this topic Godfather, I appreciate your candor, but your posts are getting uglier and uglier man. :?

    Are you simply dismissing the ideas that many are posing here -- that there are billions of Muslims in the world, and to condone the entire class is a bit extreme?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    well my friend all I can say is who is really "living in fear" ? while my thoughts and prayers go out to all who were affected by 9/11 and other attacks my feeling on the attacks are mine and I can honestly say many people feel the same as I do and do not support the idea of a islamic cultural center on ground zero,is there a nazi cultural center in england or one at ground zero known as awswitz ? (spelling)...and no I do not support the nazi idelism so don't even go there.

    Godfather.

    Big difference between Nazis and Muslims matey. The majority of Muslims in the World are no threat to anyone.
    Radical Muslims who would use violence to further their agenda are a tiny minority, probably no more than the number of radical Zionists, or neo-Nazis in the World. It'd be interesting to see the statistics. I know that far-right racist groups are a big problem now in Eastern Europe and Russia.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??

    Godfather.
    Godfather. wrote:
    your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.

    Godfather.

    Im with Cosmo on this topic Godfather, I appreciate your candor, but your posts are getting uglier and uglier man. :?

    Are you simply dismissing the ideas that many are posing here -- that there are billions of Muslims in the world, and to condone the entire class is a bit extreme?

    thanks JP,you and Cosmo are very fair I'll take time to think about this.

    Godfather.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    aerial wrote:
    Peaceful Tomorrows; which is coordinated by leftwing public relations specialist David Fenton, and funded by the left grant-giving Tides Foundation; is an antiwar support organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Formed as a supposedly nonpartisan group opposing the War on Terror.

    The Tides Foundation itself is just another foundation in a lengthy line of liberal grant-giving groups that finance far-left causes and organizations. Tides also provides support to Islamic Networks, Inc. – a public relations institute whose aim is to convince Americans that Islam doesn't oppress women, despite the evidence to the contrary. In addition, Tides funds the Democratic Justice Fund, founded in cooperation with George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Also receiving grants from Tides are such bigwigs as various chapters of the ACLU and The National Lawyers Guild, and MoveOn.org, which compared Bush to Hitler. WHAT! (I thought only crazy right wingers did that...gezz I guess Obama is NOT the only prez compared to Hitler as I have read on the MT).
    Heading up the direction of Peaceful Tomorrows’ media blitz is David Fenton. Fenton has had his hands in all things big and small with regards to the media campaigns of some of the aforementioned liberal activist groups.
    Aside from simply covering various aspects of the counter-culture and anti-war movements, Fenton and his Liberation News Service associates, headed by Allen Young and George Cavalletto, were sympathetic to the radical anti-establishment organization Students for a Democratic Society, and set out to run their own group with the goal of effecting political change to the tune of their overtly Marxist philosophy. Fenton’s political ideology, as well, found him as a member of the White Panther Party, the Caucasian counterpart of the infamous Black Panthers. In the 60’s and early 70’s, Fenton also snapped photographs for the Weathermen, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society, whose anarchistic national views led to their bombing of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol building, the New York City Police Headquarters and the Pentagon.


    PEACEful Tomorrow? I will have to check this out more closely.....

    Link please.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    aerial wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    I have never heard of this guy until I read this blog and that is all I have read of his....but reading what you posted I do agree with part of what he is saying and I didn't even know he had stated this

    Interesting. Let's look at the piece again that you 'agree with part of':

    The preservation and growth of Western civilization, from which most races have benefitted, but which was created in the main by only one: the white race
    White liberation from the oppression of minorities, particularly from the Jewish-Occupied Government (JOG) of not only America, but of the entire Western world
    Real free speech, which allows talking about all 'taboo' subjects, particularly including the role of Jewish influence in the world, Jewish dominance of institutions and their stranglehold on the mass media, the Holocaust lie, the genocide and culturcide perpetrated by Jews against whites, the nazi-like behavior of Israel, and racial inferiority and superiority
    A return to Constitutional government, as expressed by the Founders' 'original intent', and a rejection of the present day view of so many judges that the Constitution is a 'living document', ie, dead-letter.
    Opposition to the so-called New World Order, which seeks dominance of the world by a small elite which is closely tied to bankers, large corporations and the rich, and which is represented by such secretive and exclusive but powerful groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable groups, and the like
    Opposition to illegal immigration, which our government deliberately encourages, and which is overwhelming the Southwest (and indeed the entire nation) with millions of persons - mostly Mexicans -- whose gene pool is inferior and whose culture is hostile to that of the majority population of America.
    Opposition to governmental anti-white discrimination (affirmative action and similar policies)
    Opposition to 'multiculturalism' and other forms of race-mixing whose evident intent is to destroy the white gene pool and cause Western society to self-destruct by exploding in racial war
    The right of all minorities to self-determination and their place in the sun
    Actonite libertarianism, ie, the policy of maximizing individual freedom while keeping power as dispersed as reasonably possible so as to avoid the pitfall so well expressed by Lord Acton that 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'
    Scientific spiritualism, which seeks to put religion and psi phenomena on a scientific basis and thereby help mankind rediscover his place in the Cosmos in light of modern developments, and which seeks the rediscovery of the Great White Spirit of our ancestors which was the ultimate force behind the creation of Western civilization

    Notice that most EVERYTHING you put on here is what I DO NOT AGREE WITH?..... :?

    Most?
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Moonpig wrote:

    Couldn't agree with you more. I cannot for the life of me understand people saying, "I know you're a bigotry, but I respect your honesty" type of attitude being shown here.

    If this was someone expressing similar views on the street and was posted on YouTube we'd all be saying how disgraceful it is and how it should not be allowed. However because we know this particular person, in a posting sense, it is as though they get a pass. Scary indeed.

    I don't think GF (as I gather he is the person), is getting a pass here. He has been seriously challenged by most.

    I much prefer someone being straight about their xenophobia, racism, homophobia, etc. than those that may say "I'm not racist, I've got black friends but...." or "I love everyone and I'm not xenophobic but these wetbacks are taking over my town...." Professing one thing but really 'being' the other.

    Knowing where people truly stand, even if at opposite ends, can be the basis of an interesting debate even I find some views posted here totally outrageous and disgraceful, as you say (and some are just way too OTT and extreme for me to even consider them as part of a discussion). A good debate can also lead to a bit of eye opening maybe? Maybe get one's self to think about one's attitude, question certain perceptions/thoughts. This goes for all debates/discussions, not just this one.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Hey GF, you live in a state that was stolen from Mexico so why dnt YOU GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE COUNTRY. Ya, your post smell like horse shit too... :D:lol: (threw in a couple of emoticons for ya)
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