Freedom

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Godfather. wrote:

with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.

Godfather.

The fact that you make sure you make war, very, far away from your shores. As for free from military attacks? Ahhhhh, Hawaii wasn't part of the country in the fourties? And if you are going to say that "they let it happen", please step up and put the 911 people in their place about how that was not an inside job. wink, wink, wink...

The real reason is because ALL of North America wouldn't let anything like that happen!

oceaninmyeyes

chadwick wrote:

buffalo bill cody is literally placed as a hero. he murdered buffalo to starve Indians and wasn't he paid well for doing so? all in the name of the white man's governments & a little thing called freedom. which we all know well by now that they stole this land with a murderous hand.

Not a pic of Buffalo Bill, but an image that confirms what we are capable of.

Thousands upon thousands of buffalo skulls at the Bone yard, Michigan Carbon Works, Detroit, Michigan

My husband who is a veteran of the Gulf war has this on a tshirt.

josevolution

oceaninmyeyes wrote:

chadwick wrote:

buffalo bill cody is literally placed as a hero. he murdered buffalo to starve Indians and wasn't he paid well for doing so? all in the name of the white man's governments & a little thing called freedom. which we all know well by now that they stole this land with a murderous hand.

Not a pic of Buffalo Bill, but an image that confirms what we are capable of.

Thousands upon thousands of buffalo skulls at the Bone yard, Michigan Carbon Works, Detroit, Michigan

My husband who is a veteran of the Gulf war has this on a tshirt.

I'm sorry but that shirt is dispicable ....

josevolution

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

aerial wrote:

Without God, there is no America.

Was God present when George Armstrong Custer was massacring whole Indian villages, and taking an especial delight in bayoneting pregnant women and ripping the unborn fetuses from their bellies to be displayed as trophies?

Was God there when Columbus and his crew took pleasure in boiling people alive?

:fp: really ?

Godfather.

The truth hurts ha ...

oceaninmyeyes

josevolution wrote:

oceaninmyeyes wrote:

chadwick wrote:

buffalo bill cody is literally placed as a hero. he murdered buffalo to starve Indians and wasn't he paid well for doing so? all in the name of the white man's governments & a little thing called freedom. which we all know well by now that they stole this land with a murderous hand.

Not a pic of Buffalo Bill, but an image that confirms what we are capable of.

Thousands upon thousands of buffalo skulls at the Bone yard, Michigan Carbon Works, Detroit, Michigan

My husband who is a veteran of the Gulf war has this on a tshirt.

I'm sorry but that shirt is dispicable ....

help me josevolution. Why is it despicable?

josevolution

Wait so the tshirt states fighting terrorism did i interpret it wrong is it meaning that the American indians are the one's fighting against terror to protect what was rightfully theirs ? or that they are the one's who are terrorist i apologize if i missed interpreted the TSHIRT ...

oceaninmyeyes

josevolution wrote:

Wait so the tshirt states fighting terrorism did i interpret it wrong is it meaning that the American indians are the one's fighting against terror to protect what was rightfully theirs ? or that they are the one's who are terrorist i apologize if i missed interpreted the TSHIRT ...

Yeah, after you posted that I thought maybe I was wrong. But the chiefs pictured are Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Numaga, Osceola, who had to begin protecting their homeland in 1492. And no need to apologize, because when I looked it up I learned about Chief Numaga, a 19th century Northern Paiute leader had the courage and the vision to counsel against war. Facing severe threats to his people by invading white forces, Numaga repeatedly chose peace. And Osceola, (Florida Seminoles) 1804 -1838. Sitting Bull has always been my favorite. I may have to find a book to read about him this summer. Thanks for the inspiration josevolution.

josevolution

oceaninmyeyes wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Wait so the tshirt states fighting terrorism did i interpret it wrong is it meaning that the American indians are the one's fighting against terror to protect what was rightfully theirs ? or that they are the one's who are terrorist i apologize if i missed interpreted the TSHIRT ...

Yeah, after you posted that I thought maybe I was wrong. But the chiefs pictured are Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Numaga, Osceola, who had to begin protecting their homeland in 1492. And no need to apologize, because when I looked it up I learned about Chief Numaga, a 19th century Northern Paiute leader had the courage and the vision to counsel against war. Facing severe threats to his people by invading white forces, Numaga repeatedly chose peace. And Osceola, (Florida Seminoles) 1804 -1838. Sitting Bull has always been my favorite. I may have to find a book to read about him this summer. Thanks for the inspiration josevolution.

Hey yeah Sitting bull is a true american icon and give my thanks to your husband for hi's service to this country ....

oceaninmyeyes

josevolution wrote:

oceaninmyeyes wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Wait so the tshirt states fighting terrorism did i interpret it wrong is it meaning that the American indians are the one's fighting against terror to protect what was rightfully theirs ? or that they are the one's who are terrorist i apologize if i missed interpreted the TSHIRT ...

Yeah, after you posted that I thought maybe I was wrong. But the chiefs pictured are Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Numaga, Osceola, who had to begin protecting their homeland in 1492. And no need to apologize, because when I looked it up I learned about Chief Numaga, a 19th century Northern Paiute leader had the courage and the vision to counsel against war. Facing severe threats to his people by invading white forces, Numaga repeatedly chose peace. And Osceola, (Florida Seminoles) 1804 -1838. Sitting Bull has always been my favorite. I may have to find a book to read about him this summer. Thanks for the inspiration josevolution.

Hey yeah Sitting bull is a true american icon and give my thanks to your husband for hi's service to this country ....

Will do. Thanks again.

mickeyrat

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

At what point in history was the U.S ever threatened with invasion? Answer = never. Therefore, who fought and died to protect your 'freedom'? I must have missed that.

wow really .....remember Pearl habor...what ? you think they just bombed pearl harbor cause they were bord ? or how about the sbumarines right off the california coast ? wtf do you think they had in mind ? ....a tea party

Godfather.

You know how far away Pearl Harbour is from the Californian coast? Like I said, at what point in history was the U.S ever threatened with invasion?

The War of 1812 ring a bell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

Godfather.

freedom to protect your family.

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) - A woman fired shots at three men attempting to break into her home, and one of the suspects was shot in the chest, police said.

"If you are in fear for your life, most definitely we want you to protect yourself so obviously she thought she was in fear for her life so she responded," Kansas City police Sgt. Marisa Barnes said. "I would consider her very lucky."




http://www.kctv5.com/story/22407866/sho ... hpt=ju_bn5

Godfather.

Drowned Out

America has 5% of the worlds population, and 25% of it's prisoners.

Godfather.

5 Great Things About America:

ONE. Every 4 to 8 years we have a peaceful transition of government. People in power leave voluntarily, and new people move in. Many world historians consider this a miracle.

TWO. We can travel from state-to-state whenever we want, without having to show a passport or papers of any kind. We can cross the whole country without interference. We take this for granted, but over the course of history, the FREEDOM we enjoy is unusual, and we should treasure it.

THREE. Anywhere you go in our country, you can go into a restaurant and be pretty confident that it is safe and sanitary. Why? Because every state has a Health Department that sees that restaurants live up to health standards, that’s why. So, some of our tax money really works, doesn’t it?

FOUR. We have a great collection of colleges and universities – the best in the world. Our universities do innovative research in physics, medicine, environmental studies, and technology. If knowledge eventually saves our world civilization, much of that knowledge will have been gained right here in the USA.

FIVE. Our civilization does best when there are frontiers. We have two frontiers left: the ocean depths and outer space. The USA is the world’s best space-faring nation. Right now we have a rover named “Curiosity” studying the planet Mars.

Godfather.

Drowned Out

where do you get this shit man? And why do some Americans find it necessary to write it? like....did your mothers not teach you about humility and modesty?

All of that is off topic, save for #2, which actually mentions freedom.....and is total bullshit. You CAN'T move about your country freely. You can be stopped at a checkpoint, demanded to show ID for no reason, and detained indefinitely without charge. :fp:
There are countries in which that would be illegal............so I guess they must be more free than America.

#3 actually made me lol

brianlux

Godfather. wrote:

with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.

Godfather.

Been out of the loop a bit this week so forgive me if this has already been covered in this thread but reading this I also hear the question turned around a bit: "With no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think has kept our country free from military attacks or take overs from within- what has kept it from becoming a police state like, say, South Africa was thirty years ago?"

brianlux

Godfather. wrote:

5 Great Things About America:

ONE. Every 4 to 8 years we have a peaceful transition of government. People in power leave voluntarily, and new people move in. Many world historians consider this a miracle.

TWO. We can travel from state-to-state whenever we want, without having to show a passport or papers of any kind. We can cross the whole country without interference. We take this for granted, but over the course of history, the FREEDOM we enjoy is unusual, and we should treasure it.

THREE. Anywhere you go in our country, you can go into a restaurant and be pretty confident that it is safe and sanitary. Why? Because every state has a Health Department that sees that restaurants live up to health standards, that’s why. So, some of our tax money really works, doesn’t it?

FOUR. We have a great collection of colleges and universities – the best in the world. Our universities do innovative research in physics, medicine, environmental studies, and technology. If knowledge eventually saves our world civilization, much of that knowledge will have been gained right here in the USA.

FIVE. Our civilization does best when there are frontiers. We have two frontiers left: the ocean depths and outer space. The USA is the world’s best space-faring nation. Right now we have a rover named “Curiosity” studying the planet Mars.

Godfather.

No offense, GF, but this is spoken like a white man.

Smellyman

Godfather. wrote:

5 Great Things About America:

ONE. Every 4 to 8 years we have a peaceful transition of government. People in power leave voluntarily, and new people move in. Many world historians consider this a miracle.

TWO. We can travel from state-to-state whenever we want, without having to show a passport or papers of any kind. We can cross the whole country without interference. We take this for granted, but over the course of history, the FREEDOM we enjoy is unusual, and we should treasure it.

THREE. Anywhere you go in our country, you can go into a restaurant and be pretty confident that it is safe and sanitary. Why? Because every state has a Health Department that sees that restaurants live up to health standards, that’s why. So, some of our tax money really works, doesn’t it?

FOUR. We have a great collection of colleges and universities – the best in the world. Our universities do innovative research in physics, medicine, environmental studies, and technology. If knowledge eventually saves our world civilization, much of that knowledge will have been gained right here in the USA.

FIVE. Our civilization does best when there are frontiers. We have two frontiers left: the ocean depths and outer space. The USA is the world’s best space-faring nation. Right now we have a rover named “Curiosity” studying the planet Mars.

Godfather.

Wow whoever wrote that needs to get out of the US a bit more.

Guitar92player

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

At what point in history was the U.S ever threatened with invasion? Answer = never. Therefore, who fought and died to protect your 'freedom'? I must have missed that.

wow really .....remember Pearl habor...what ? you think they just bombed pearl harbor cause they were bord ? or how about the sbumarines right off the california coast ? wtf do you think they had in mind ? ....a tea party

Godfather.

You know how far away Pearl Harbour is from the Californian coast? Like I said, at what point in history was the U.S ever threatened with invasion?

War of 1812, Pearl Harbor, Alaska was invaded for a little bit in WWII, but no extreme danger, and if I am correct Nazi's did make it to America during WWII (but I could be wrong. I remember watching something on this.)

But mainland America has never really been in extreme danger.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

mickeyrat wrote:

The War of 1812 ring a bell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

yep. America declared war on Britain, tried to take over Canada and were defeated, all because they didn't like Native Americans "stealing" their land back.

Horos