Are you speaking of the Holocaust? If so, we could have helped by temporarily suspending our immigration quotas and allow German Jews to migrate to the US as the American Jews were lobbying for but our political leaders chose not to do that.
OK, but should we have remained neutral?
Based on events as they occurred, no. Was war the ONLY way to stop the Germans and Japanese?
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
This partial quote came across my FB feed this morning and I found it relevant and similar to something Cosmo said earlier.
"The sociopaths who run this country realized people work much better when given the "illusion" of freedom rather than outright slavery or an outright dictatorship. Literally the entire system that has been imposed on us by the ruling class reflects this fact. And we have been indoctrinated for many generations to accept it and be participants in it. But not only that, we are the enforcers of it."
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
Are you speaking of the Holocaust? If so, we could have helped by temporarily suspending our immigration quotas and allow German Jews to migrate to the US as the American Jews were lobbying for but our political leaders chose not to do that.
OK, but should we have remained neutral?
Based on events as they occurred, no. Was war the ONLY way to stop the Germans and Japanese?
To stop them? Yes, probably. Hitler was going to keep going as far as he could. I don't know where the Japanese would have stopped. I do think war was inevitable.
That is not to say, as you suggested earlier, that there were not things the US gov't could and should have done differently. There certainly were.
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I smoked a big fatty last night GF in your honor and it was so tasty and guess what the smoke came from a very good friend of mine who grows hi's own ahhh freedom it taste so good ....
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
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BOSTON 9-29-04
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BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
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WORCESTER 10-15-13
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HARTFORD 10-25-13
I am no WWII scholar, but didn't Germany declare war on the US before we got involved in anything other than protecting our merchant ships from U-boats? I suppose it could be argued that they did it simply to beat us to the punch, but it sure seems like they threatened America. Now was invasion imminent? no, but their Axis partner did just attack the US.
I am no fan of war, but that seems like a threat to me.
But it can be argued that if we were ever truly neutral then even our merchant ships wouldn't have been in hostile waters. We were intent on protecting our economic interests by protecting trade with our largest economic partners (GB and France) whilst not trading with Germany at all. Couldn't that be consider provocation on the part of the US?
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Germany declard war on the United States right after the U.S. declared war on Japan. I think it might have been on December 8, 1941.
Their reasoning was that attack on U.S. Merchant ships carrying war supplies to Great Britian could now be sunk by German U-Boats as 'acts of War'. Prior to that, those attacks on merchant ships would be considered acts of Piracy. The idea was to starve, then invade/occupy Great Britian.
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Finally, the U.S. played a large role in the defeat of Germany during WWII... but, had Hitler not decided to open the Eastern Front, they would have been a more formidible force on the Western Front and possibly may have been able to repel the Allied Forces from Normandy in 1944.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
At what point in history was the U.S ever threatened with invasion? Answer = never. Therefore, who fought and died to protect your 'freedom'? I must have missed that.
wow really .....remember Pearl habor...what ? you think they just bombed pearl harbor cause they were bord ? or how about the sbumarines right off the california coast ? wtf do you think they had in mind ? ....a tea party
Godfather.
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Pearl Harbor is in Hawaii. When did Hawaii become a state?
The strategic idea was to cripple U.S. Naval power that had been projected into the Pacific. The goal was never to 'take over the U.S.'... it was to keep the U.S. Naval Forces from interferring with their goal of taking over China and the Soviet Union. They absolutely hated the Communists.
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Didn't you ever watch the History Channel when it was nicknamed the Hitler Channel?
If not... there are TONS of books writen about World War 2. You might want to check one out.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
I am no WWII scholar, but didn't Germany declare war on the US before we got involved in anything other than protecting our merchant ships from U-boats? I suppose it could be argued that they did it simply to beat us to the punch, but it sure seems like they threatened America. Now was invasion imminent? no, but their Axis partner did just attack the US.
I am no fan of war, but that seems like a threat to me.
But it can be argued that if we were ever truly neutral then even our merchant ships wouldn't have been in hostile waters. We were intent on protecting our economic interests by protecting trade with our largest economic partners (GB and France) whilst not trading with Germany at all. Couldn't that be consider provocation on the part of the US?
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Germany declard war on the United States right after the U.S. declared war on Japan. I think it might have been on December 8, 1941.
Their reasoning was that attack on U.S. Merchant ships carrying war supplies to Great Britian could now be sunk by German U-Boats as 'acts of War'. Prior to that, those attacks on merchant ships would be considered acts of Piracy. The idea was to starve, then invade/occupy Great Britian.
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Finally, the U.S. played a large role in the defeat of Germany during WWII... but, had Hitler not decided to open the Eastern Front, they would have been a more formidible force on the Western Front and possibly may have been able to repel the Allied Forces from Normandy in 1944.
Very true. I was thinking about how the US maintained 'neutrality' from 1939 until the attack at Pearl Harbor even though we had merchant ships in hostile shipping lanes to help out the Allies which also helped us out especially after the war.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
Oh boy...
What of Americans who worship a different God than did Mr. Jefferson? What of Americans who worship no God at all?
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
who has forced you into anything ? If anything the preist of your so called God are the one's who are forcing themselves onto all those young kids they prey on ....
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
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Since you are quoting Jefferson... Read the Jeffersonian Bible.
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you're welcome.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
The god of our forefathers is not the god that fundamentalists worship today. Many of our founding fathers were either not religious, Ben Franklin was a deist, or were religious in name only, i.e., regular church attendance as a function of cultural expectations, like Thomas Jefferson. The only rewriting of history occurs by those who don't understand the religious and cultural times of the founding fathers. A good book on this very subject is "Faith of the Founding Fathers" by David Holmes.
He does a fantastic job of explaining how the fundamentalist religions of this era are far different than the religous beliefs of people today espcially since many of the Protestant denominations that many follow today didn't even exist during this time.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
who has forced you into anything ? If anything the preist of your so called God are the one's who are forcing themselves onto all those young kids they prey on ....
I do not hold those Priest as Godly....Along with the Muslims and there pedophile beliefs....
God does not praise pedophilia...
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
who has forced you into anything ? If anything the preist of your so called God are the one's who are forcing themselves onto all those young kids they prey on ....
I do not understand how you can laugh about pedophilia.
I feel God is the reason we have been protected.... actually God , Guns and Guts......I did not add that out of respect for Godfathers request to not start a gun thread......I have a right to answers Godfathers post as I feel....not looking for condemnation...
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
who has forced you into anything ? If anything the preist of your so called God are the one's who are forcing themselves onto all those young kids they prey on ....
I do not understand how you can laugh about pedophilia.
I feel God is the reason we have been protected.... actually God , Guns and Guts......I did not add that out of respect for Godfathers request to not start a gun thread......I have a right to answers Godfathers post as I feel....not looking for condemnation...
I dont think he's laughing at pedophelia...
You really think the USA has been safe(er) because of God? :?
and if God is protecting us, why cant she protect the kids that are abused too? :idea: Now there's an idea!!!
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
The god of our forefathers is not the god that fundamentalists worship today. Many of our founding fathers were either not religious, Ben Franklin was a deist, or were religious in name only, i.e., regular church attendance as a function of cultural expectations, like Thomas Jefferson. The only rewriting of history occurs by those who don't understand the religious and cultural times of the founding fathers. A good book on this very subject is "Faith of the Founding Fathers" by David Holmes.
He does a fantastic job of explaining how the fundamentalist religions of this era are far different than the religous beliefs of people today espcially since many of the Protestant denominations that many follow today didn't even exist during this time.
Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention, at least 51 belonged to orthodox Christian churches and expressed clear Christian convictions. These include 28 Anglicans, 8 Presbyterians, 7 Congregationalists, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Lutherans, 2 Methodists, and 2 Roman Catholics
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
JonnyPistachio......God is condemned in this country now....all the tolerance that is now preached does not cover Christians, have you notices? It's the new cool thing to do mock and condemn Christians...This country is turning it's back on God and there will be Hell to pay....no pun intended...
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
If God protects us where was he on 9/11? Where was he when the children were being slaughtered in Newtown? Where was he when countless children were being preyed upon by predatory priests? Where was he when the bombs went off on Boylston Street?
If God protects us where was he on 9/11? Where was he when the children were being slaughtered in Newtown? Where was he when countless children were being preyed upon by predatory priests? Where was he when the bombs went off on Boylston Street?
God does not protect us.
takes a lot out of him to help Ray Lewis win a superbowl...
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
The god of our forefathers is not the god that fundamentalists worship today. Many of our founding fathers were either not religious, Ben Franklin was a deist, or were religious in name only, i.e., regular church attendance as a function of cultural expectations, like Thomas Jefferson. The only rewriting of history occurs by those who don't understand the religious and cultural times of the founding fathers. A good book on this very subject is "Faith of the Founding Fathers" by David Holmes.
He does a fantastic job of explaining how the fundamentalist religions of this era are far different than the religous beliefs of people today espcially since many of the Protestant denominations that many follow today didn't even exist during this time.
Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention, at least 51 belonged to orthodox Christian churches and expressed clear Christian convictions. These include 28 Anglicans, 8 Presbyterians, 7 Congregationalists, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Lutherans, 2 Methodists, and 2 Roman Catholics
Which means what? They followed the CULTURE of Christianity. Doesn't mean they abided by the religious beliefs. And I say again, the founding fathers were NOT fundamentalists and many were Christians in name only which only means they followed the culture of Christianity rather than Muslim or Jewish culture.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
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Our Military technology is great.. when we want to fight a war with Russia, China, Europe or Israel.
But, what about a place like Viet Nam? How did things in Somalia work out for us? What about Iraq and Afghanistan? Where low tech tactics are used against us... how did we fare?
Sure, we won every battle fought in those places... but, did we 'win'?
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If you understand War is simply rich old men sending off their young men to kill the young men of another rich old man... then, you might stop cheering for the rich old men to put your people ar risk.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
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Our Military technology is great.. when we want to fight a war with Russia, China, Europe or Israel.
But, what about a place like Viet Nam? How did things in Somalia work out for us? What about Iraq and Afghanistan? Where low tech tactics are used against us... how did we fare?
Sure, we won every battle fought in those places... but, did we 'win'?
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If you understand War is simply rich old men sending off their young men to kill the young men of another rich old man... then, you might stop cheering for the rich old men to put your people ar risk.
Cosmo all I can say is there are too many rules America follows during a war or fight to catch a terrorist
and if those rules are not followed to the letter or seemingly not followed our own people talk shit about our troops and 99.9% of the time they really have no idea what is going on...only what they think should have been done or what little the media tells us..or wants to tells us...or can tell us.
when I say 99.9 % have no idea I am not jabbing at anybody , it all comes down to we,you and I or them did not see and have do idea why a war started or how we got the info or who really gave it to us even the troops in the field know little more than us, that what is fed to us by the media.
Was God present when George Armstrong Custer was massacring whole Indian villages, and taking an especial delight in bayoneting pregnant women and ripping the unborn fetuses from their bellies to be displayed as trophies?
Was God there when Columbus and his crew took pleasure in boiling people alive?
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.
Godfather.
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Our Military technology is great.. when we want to fight a war with Russia, China, Europe or Israel.
But, what about a place like Viet Nam? How did things in Somalia work out for us? What about Iraq and Afghanistan? Where low tech tactics are used against us... how did we fare?
Sure, we won every battle fought in those places... but, did we 'win'?
... If you understand War is simply rich old men sending off their young men to kill the young men of another rich old man... then, you might stop cheering for the rich old men to put your people ar risk.
the truth
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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Based on events as they occurred, no. Was war the ONLY way to stop the Germans and Japanese?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
"The sociopaths who run this country realized people work much better when given the "illusion" of freedom rather than outright slavery or an outright dictatorship. Literally the entire system that has been imposed on us by the ruling class reflects this fact. And we have been indoctrinated for many generations to accept it and be participants in it. But not only that, we are the enforcers of it."
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
To stop them? Yes, probably. Hitler was going to keep going as far as he could. I don't know where the Japanese would have stopped. I do think war was inevitable.
That is not to say, as you suggested earlier, that there were not things the US gov't could and should have done differently. There certainly were.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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I smoked a big fatty last night GF in your honor and it was so tasty and guess what the smoke came from a very good friend of mine who grows hi's own ahhh freedom it taste so good ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKq9Jvs ... ata_player
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Germany declard war on the United States right after the U.S. declared war on Japan. I think it might have been on December 8, 1941.
Their reasoning was that attack on U.S. Merchant ships carrying war supplies to Great Britian could now be sunk by German U-Boats as 'acts of War'. Prior to that, those attacks on merchant ships would be considered acts of Piracy. The idea was to starve, then invade/occupy Great Britian.
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Finally, the U.S. played a large role in the defeat of Germany during WWII... but, had Hitler not decided to open the Eastern Front, they would have been a more formidible force on the Western Front and possibly may have been able to repel the Allied Forces from Normandy in 1944.
Hail, Hail!!!
Pearl Harbor is in Hawaii. When did Hawaii become a state?
The strategic idea was to cripple U.S. Naval power that had been projected into the Pacific. The goal was never to 'take over the U.S.'... it was to keep the U.S. Naval Forces from interferring with their goal of taking over China and the Soviet Union. They absolutely hated the Communists.
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Didn't you ever watch the History Channel when it was nicknamed the Hitler Channel?
If not... there are TONS of books writen about World War 2. You might want to check one out.
Hail, Hail!!!
" . . . and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
— II Corinthians 3:17
Without God, there is no America.
Thomas Jefferson stated in a tract in which he laid out the justifications for the American Revolution, "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?"
Today, in the name of "equality" and "political correctness" the basic liberty to love and worship God — the God of the Holy Bible — is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.
Very true. I was thinking about how the US maintained 'neutrality' from 1939 until the attack at Pearl Harbor even though we had merchant ships in hostile shipping lanes to help out the Allies which also helped us out especially after the war.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Oh boy...
What of Americans who worship a different God than did Mr. Jefferson? What of Americans who worship no God at all?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Since you are quoting Jefferson... Read the Jeffersonian Bible.
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you're welcome.
Hail, Hail!!!
The god of our forefathers is not the god that fundamentalists worship today. Many of our founding fathers were either not religious, Ben Franklin was a deist, or were religious in name only, i.e., regular church attendance as a function of cultural expectations, like Thomas Jefferson. The only rewriting of history occurs by those who don't understand the religious and cultural times of the founding fathers. A good book on this very subject is "Faith of the Founding Fathers" by David Holmes.
http://www.amazon.com/Faiths-Founding-Fathers-David-Holmes/dp/0195300920
He does a fantastic job of explaining how the fundamentalist religions of this era are far different than the religous beliefs of people today espcially since many of the Protestant denominations that many follow today didn't even exist during this time.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
I do not hold those Priest as Godly....Along with the Muslims and there pedophile beliefs....
God does not praise pedophilia...
I do not understand how you can laugh about pedophilia.
I feel God is the reason we have been protected.... actually God , Guns and Guts......I did not add that out of respect for Godfathers request to not start a gun thread......I have a right to answers Godfathers post as I feel....not looking for condemnation...
I dont think he's laughing at pedophelia...
You really think the USA has been safe(er) because of God? :?
and if God is protecting us, why cant she protect the kids that are abused too? :idea: Now there's an idea!!!
Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention, at least 51 belonged to orthodox Christian churches and expressed clear Christian convictions. These include 28 Anglicans, 8 Presbyterians, 7 Congregationalists, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Lutherans, 2 Methodists, and 2 Roman Catholics
God does not protect us.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
takes a lot out of him to help Ray Lewis win a superbowl...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
It sure does. And what is he doing working on the seventh day anyway? Isn't that his day off? No priorities with this guy.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Which means what? They followed the CULTURE of Christianity. Doesn't mean they abided by the religious beliefs. And I say again, the founding fathers were NOT fundamentalists and many were Christians in name only which only means they followed the culture of Christianity rather than Muslim or Jewish culture.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Our Military technology is great.. when we want to fight a war with Russia, China, Europe or Israel.
But, what about a place like Viet Nam? How did things in Somalia work out for us? What about Iraq and Afghanistan? Where low tech tactics are used against us... how did we fare?
Sure, we won every battle fought in those places... but, did we 'win'?
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If you understand War is simply rich old men sending off their young men to kill the young men of another rich old man... then, you might stop cheering for the rich old men to put your people ar risk.
Hail, Hail!!!
Cosmo all I can say is there are too many rules America follows during a war or fight to catch a terrorist
and if those rules are not followed to the letter or seemingly not followed our own people talk shit about our troops and 99.9% of the time they really have no idea what is going on...only what they think should have been done or what little the media tells us..or wants to tells us...or can tell us.
when I say 99.9 % have no idea I am not jabbing at anybody , it all comes down to we,you and I or them did not see and have do idea why a war started or how we got the info or who really gave it to us even the troops in the field know little more than us, that what is fed to us by the media.
Godfather.
Wow!
Was God present when George Armstrong Custer was massacring whole Indian villages, and taking an especial delight in bayoneting pregnant women and ripping the unborn fetuses from their bellies to be displayed as trophies?
Was God there when Columbus and his crew took pleasure in boiling people alive?
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