Freedom

Godfather.
Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited June 2013 in A Moving Train
with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.

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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Was someone coming to take them away? i mean other than our own government.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Was someone coming to take them away? i mean other than our own government.

    wow really ? without military streanth you can bet your PJ collection that someone would come after us....remember WWII history ? and no I'm not paranoid I'm just stating a fact.

    Godfather.
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Godfather. wrote:
    Was someone coming to take them away? i mean other than our own government.

    wow really ? without military streanth you can bet your PJ collection that someone would come after us....remember WWII history ? and no I'm not paranoid I'm just stating a fact.

    Godfather.

    Well Canada isn't about to invade and Mexicans have already taken back most of the land they lost.

    We'll see every body else coming from far away because of those oceans that separate us from the rest of the world.

    Seems to me if we just protect our borders we'd be fine.
  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    Godfather. wrote:
    with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.

    Godfather.

    Why ask us a question, only to give us the "simple answer" before anyone can answer.
    Your mind is made up, so this obviously will not lead to any kind of intelligent debate or conversation.

    I'll give you my answer anyway. My answer is "diplomacy". At times, we (the U.S.) make it work better
    than others.
    I would also throw in there, that a "shit ton of spending" (far more than we need to spend) helps a whole
    helluva lot too.

    And yes, the brave men and women that put on that uniform everyday and put their ass on the line.

    Now answer a question for me please?
    Even if we cut our Military manpower down drastically, do you think any other country would actually attack us with the military and try to take us over?
    The answer to that question is simply, "hell no".
    Peace, Love.


    "To question your government is not unpatriotic --
    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
    -- Sen. Chuck Hagel
  • JBii
    JBii Lake Spivey Posts: 354
    Freedom is the reason for it all man. There is always someone waiting in the wings. Individual freedom
    and rights, basic rights. Rights worth fighting for. People worth fighting for. Support those who fight for us.
    That what you fear the most could meet you halfway
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    After serving my time in the military, at times I think of freedom with this album on my mind.....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Neil_ ... reedom.jpg

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    Our military is too often taken for granted. It is too easy to listen to casualty numbers on the news and to become desensitized. Every fallen soldier equals a shattered family that mourns and will never be the same. We think of our freedom as a given. It is not and many have fought and died to protect and preserve it.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    the wolf wrote:
    I'll give you my answer anyway. My answer is "diplomacy". At times, we (the U.S.) make it work better
    than others.
    I would also throw in there, that a "shit ton of spending" (far more than we need to spend) helps a whole
    helluva lot too.

    That and the natural borders as BinauralJam said.

    And of course the men and women....

    More than the 'might' of the military.
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Historically it was the fact that America was geographically isolated without any geographic competitors, if the confederacy stayed separate its likely you would have a very different picture
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    the wolf wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.

    Godfather.

    Why ask us a question, only to give us the "simple answer" before anyone can answer.
    Your mind is made up, so this obviously will not lead to any kind of intelligent debate or conversation.

    I'll give you my answer anyway. My answer is "diplomacy". At times, we (the U.S.) make it work better
    than others.
    I would also throw in there, that a "shit ton of spending" (far more than we need to spend) helps a whole
    helluva lot too.

    And yes, the brave men and women that put on that uniform everyday and put their ass on the line.

    Now answer a question for me please?
    Even if we cut our Military manpower down drastically, do you think any other country would actually attack us with the military and try to take us over?
    The answer to that question is simply, "hell no".


    hell no !!....we have un-maned fighter craft that the world is in awwww over,we have military technology that kicks ass no matter what what part of the world we need to deploy to.

    oh and answering my own question to you had t be done because nobody here believes we need military tech so I just did that as a reminder. :D

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    satansbed wrote:
    Historically it was the fact that America was geographically isolated without any geographic competitors, if the confederacy stayed separate its likely you would have a very different picture


    TORA! TORA! TORA!...... :mrgreen:
    only to wake the sleeping tiger.

    Godfather.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Godfather. wrote:
    with no macho slanders or anti gun statements what do you think keeps our country free from military attacks or take overs, the simple answer is "military Tech" and the Men and Women who invent and serve.

    Godfather.

    was 9/11 considered an attack on our country?
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Godfather. wrote:
    oh and answering my own question to you had t be done because nobody here believes we need military tech so I just did that as a reminder. :D

    Godfather.

    I see you started a thread on this because of the discussion going on in the locked thread. I do find this interesting, but dont assume or get confused that people against over zealous patriotism do not appreciate the military and/or military technology. I know it's place and appreciate it for what it is..

    Just because we appreciate subtle power and diplomacy doesnt mean we think, as you suggested, that "love in's and bong loads" keep us free. Possibly the silliest comment I've seen on here in awhile. But you used a ;) , so its fine I guess..
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    oh and answering my own question to you had t be done because nobody here believes we need military tech so I just did that as a reminder. :D

    Godfather.

    I see you started a thread on this because of the discussion going on in the locked thread. I do find this interesting, but dont assume or get confused that people against over zealous patriotism do not appreciate the military and/or military technology. I know it's place and appreciate it for what it is..

    Just because we appreciate subtle power and diplomacy doesnt mean we think, as you suggested, that "love in's and bong loads" keep us free. Possibly the silliest comment I've seen on here in awhile. But you used a ;) , so its fine I guess..

    JP as always you are very well worded and spot on with your comments,thanks'
    yes the bongs and love in's was a joke i couldn't hold back :mrgreen:

    Godfather.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    sure we are not as bad off as we could be but we are not free, we are kind of free.

    D.C. is a rigged system. the wealthy rule. the poor do without, which is fine i guess. most all of the political bullshit in today's offices is a corrupt fucking joke. all the GW & Cheney years are a disaster, that election was a fucking scam.

    the more & more time goes by the more i feel we are imprisoned, and we are. many other nations in the world have more freedoms than we do.
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    usa = the powers that be brainwash the sheep & the weak minded blind people
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Godfather. wrote:
    I see you started a thread on this because of the discussion going on in the locked thread. I do find this interesting, but dont assume or get confused that people against over zealous patriotism do not appreciate the military and/or military technology. I know it's place and appreciate it for what it is..

    Just because we appreciate subtle power and diplomacy doesnt mean we think, as you suggested, that "love in's and bong loads" keep us free. Possibly the silliest comment I've seen on here in awhile. But you used a ;) , so its fine I guess..

    JP as always you are very well worded and spot on with your comments,thanks'
    yes the bongs and love in's was a joke i couldn't hold back :mrgreen:

    Godfather.

    What did you think about my previous question? Was 9/11 considered an attack on our country?
    Its an important question I think, because as The Wolf said in a previous post, most would have to be crazy to attack us... so any attack will be unconventional... unless North Korea actually loses its marbles, but that's not gonna happen either (i hope)
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    dear godfather,

    beings you & i & others do enjoy being kind of free. why do you give marijuana users such a rashin of shit? i mean, in your mind we are totally free yet you poke sticks at people smoking marijuana which is not legal in most states. why do you hammer hammer hammer & hammer the marijuana user? this is not freedom & you are not free. you are actually bound to your job like a fly stuck on fly tape hanging from the ceiling & you are upset people use a plant

    what i'm saying is if you (we) were truly 100% free you wouldn't worry about it ("it", the plant you condemn everyday on pearl jam)
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    dear godfather,

    beings you & i & others do enjoy being kind of free. why do you give marijuana users such a rashin of shit? i mean, in your mind we are totally free yet you poke sticks at people smoking marijuana which is not legal in most states. why do you hammer hammer hammer & hammer the marijuana user? this is not freedom & you are not free. you are actually bound to your job like a fly stuck on fly tape hanging from the ceiling & you are upset people use a plant

    what i'm saying is if you (we) were truly 100% free you wouldn't worry about it ("it", the plant you condemn everyday on pearl jam)

    I don't mind that people smoke pot if that's what they want, I really don't,my real concern is the dangers conected to pot, I can tell you with first hand knoledge that there are some real dangers that come with pot, the dealers,the suppliers,the shoot out's over turf and product,dead friends,friends in prison or have been to prison because they did something stupid to protect their investment.

    I'm not some old time cowboy who dislikes pot because it's hippie bullshit I've seen things and experianced thing's I wish I had not and over what ? a stupid bag of friggin weed ?
    the world of weed and drugs is a very scary world once you've entered into the dealers and drug lords world you become locked in and used for what ever you're worth be it money,resourses,your home or your family.

    weed itself is harmless enough but if you know the story from the begining all the way to the dime bag in your pocket you'll know what it took to get there,the people that died or went to prison for the cash and terf that they operated.

    I know that sounds a little extreme but those are the facts and Ijust don't want anything to do with it and maybe my opinion on weed might be agressive but I have earned it, I have been clean over 20 years, I know a guy who just got out of prison he is my age now (early 50's) and went into prison for drug related crimes at 19 years old and I think back and have to ask myself why ?...money,drugs, weed ??? over 30 years of wasted time he will never get back.

    :fp: sorry for the story but you asked bro.

    Godfather.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    This isn't a USA member board only.

    I think you would find there are a lot people posting/living freely and in many instances more so.


    this Freedom propaganda bullshit is sucked up like a hoover by Fox viewers.