obama had the opportunity to have bush and cheney tried. he could have had them arrested and handed over to the hague, but he didn't. he felt it would be unproductive. if he had, it would have gone a long way to prove to the rest of the world that we hold our own people to the same standard and that nobody is above international law. but he let them go. pelosi could have had bush impeached in the house for the iraq war, but "impeachment is off the table" is what she always said. the dems are just as complicit in bushco's immunity from prosecution, and are just as guilty as those in the bush administration.
Obama is Bush 2.0
Why would he hand him over to the hague when he would suffer the same fate?
i guess the superpower adheres to no international laws, because it is above them.
for some reason american interests seem to supercede those of other countries...
if we cared about the moral high ground, as we always claim that we do, then these presidents would he held accountable.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
If our government was able to pull off 9/11, then why couldn't they hide a WMD in Iraq????
'nuff said, case closed.
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Thank you, Sir.
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Opportunists. They saw the opportunity to fufill the dreams of the New American Century and it's primary goal of rebuilding the U.S. Military/Industrial cash cow and they seized it. The war in Iraq required expansion of this venture, so, they made the case... and sold it to America. And we bought it.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
soo ...what it comes down to is that you believe that al qaeda wanted the US to spend trillions of dollars on war and that's why they attacked you ... whereas I believe that war profiteering is a cornerstone to US foreign policy ...
i still don't see how if Bin Laden wanted to send a message - it would do it through a complicated plan that exacted relatively small damage as far as casualties ... factor in everything else and it just doesn't add up to me ...
Psychological damage is just as much a goal to terrorists as is physical damage. Causing fear is a success. This is true for all acts of terrorism, regardless of who perpetrates them or where. In this Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were indeed successful.
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Let me add:
Yes. To send a message to the Arab World that the untouchable Americans CAN be touched with violence.
If bin Laden had the resources to obtain a greater weapon with a viable delivery system, he would have. But, he had to settle with what he had... voluenteers to fly fuel laden commercial airliners into a limited number of key targets. Those targets needed to make a global statement because of the limited capabilities at hand. It was a simple plan using simple weapons (box cutters) to obtain a greater weapon (commercial airliner) in a target rich environment (Northeastern U.S.).
I have read up on bin Laden because i wanted to get an insight on what drove him... and what we can do to prevent another one from cropping up. EDoing what we are doing is ensuring that there are more bin Laden's out there. We should seriously reconsider our strategy.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
i guess the superpower adheres to no international laws, because it is above them.
for some reason american interests seem to supercede those of other countries...
if we cared about the moral high ground, as we always claim that we do, then these presidents would he held accountable.
I guess that 95% of the world's leaders probably deserve some time in the slammer. Maybe a few of the nordic countries get off the hook ... Canada maybe (excluding Quebec of course) ... New Zealand (pending they can explain the extinction of Hobbits) ... Don't know about them Aussies
Every other country ... lock 'em up. (Africa ... don't even think about protesting)
(even the leader of the Isle of Mann should be locked up for staging those suicide Moto TT races ... although they are awesome to watch)
So...if there was no plane crash at the Pentagon...what happened to American airlines flight 77 and the 59 souls aboard?
I think the Pentagon part is the weakest link.
I did not know you could pack 59 souls on to a missle? A very fast moving one at that!
You can show me all the comments from people who saw the "plane". And i can counter with the fact that what compelling pictures they have (not) of the plane anywhere near the building, better yet making that tiny hole in it.
As for the people? First off ask yourself: how does the witness protection program work in the states?
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
So...if there was no plane crash at the Pentagon...what happened to American airlines flight 77 and the 59 souls aboard?
I think the Pentagon part is the weakest link.
I did not know you could pack 59 souls on to a missle? A very fast moving one at that!
You can show me all the comments from people who saw the "plane". And i can counter with the fact that what compelling pictures they have (not) of the plane anywhere near the building, better yet making that tiny hole in it.
As for the people? First off ask yourself: how does the witness protection program work in the states?
The witness protection program?
I think if you believe this stuff (and I do not) you are playing right into the hands of whatever mysterious force orchestrated this conspiracy. Of course there was a plane. Why wouldn't there be? Crashing a plane into the Pentagon, by far, would be the easiest part of pulling this off. By arguing whether there was or was not a plane you are focusing on exactly the question the NWO/Illuminati/Bush Administration/Military Industrial Complex/Facebook want you to.
Psychological damage is just as much a goal to terrorists as is physical damage. Causing fear is a success. This is true for all acts of terrorism, regardless of who perpetrates them or where. In this Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were indeed successful.
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Let me add:
Yes. To send a message to the Arab World that the untouchable Americans CAN be touched with violence.
If bin Laden had the resources to obtain a greater weapon with a viable delivery system, he would have. But, he had to settle with what he had... voluenteers to fly fuel laden commercial airliners into a limited number of key targets. Those targets needed to make a global statement because of the limited capabilities at hand. It was a simple plan using simple weapons (box cutters) to obtain a greater weapon (commercial airliner) in a target rich environment (Northeastern U.S.).
I have read up on bin Laden because i wanted to get an insight on what drove him... and what we can do to prevent another one from cropping up. EDoing what we are doing is ensuring that there are more bin Laden's out there. We should seriously reconsider our strategy.
what psychological damage? ... all the attacks at 9/11 did was:
* create the motive for 2 wars that both happened to be key strategic locations in the middle east with oil and natural resources
* made every arab, muslim and anyone that looked like one in america a potential threat to racism and ignorance
again - if he really wanted to do significant damage ...
Psychological damage is just as much a goal to terrorists as is physical damage. Causing fear is a success. This is true for all acts of terrorism, regardless of who perpetrates them or where. In this Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were indeed successful.
...
Let me add:
Yes. To send a message to the Arab World that the untouchable Americans CAN be touched with violence.
If bin Laden had the resources to obtain a greater weapon with a viable delivery system, he would have. But, he had to settle with what he had... voluenteers to fly fuel laden commercial airliners into a limited number of key targets. Those targets needed to make a global statement because of the limited capabilities at hand. It was a simple plan using simple weapons (box cutters) to obtain a greater weapon (commercial airliner) in a target rich environment (Northeastern U.S.).
I have read up on bin Laden because i wanted to get an insight on what drove him... and what we can do to prevent another one from cropping up. EDoing what we are doing is ensuring that there are more bin Laden's out there. We should seriously reconsider our strategy.
what psychological damage? ... all the attacks at 9/11 did was:
* create the motive for 2 wars that both happened to be key strategic locations in the middle east with oil and natural resources
* made every arab, muslim and anyone that looked like one in america a potential threat to racism and ignorance
again - if he really wanted to do significant damage ...
Please finish your last statement. If he really wanted to do significant damage...he would have done what? What more could he have done that he was capable of doing?
I do think you are badly underestimating the psychological damage done on 9/11.
Please finish your last statement. If he really wanted to do significant damage...he would have done what? What more could he have done that he was capable of doing?
I do think you are badly underestimating the psychological damage done on 9/11.
I'll take a stab at that: just drop the fucking plane on NYC! Maybe a nuclear power plant. How about right on the city of Boston? LA? Surely these places are not as protected as the pentagon, where they'd be sure to be shot down. Oh wait! :fp:
The only psychological damage is that the US people got duped into thinking Iraq was behind Al-q and jumped on yet, another good foray into a foreign land. Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
"there's no need to hide, you're in Canada tonight" I AM MINE
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
Please finish your last statement. If he really wanted to do significant damage...he would have done what? What more could he have done that he was capable of doing?
I do think you are badly underestimating the psychological damage done on 9/11.
I'll take a stab at that: just drop the fucking plane on NYC! Maybe a nuclear power plant. How about right on the city of Boston? LA? Surely these places are not as protected as the pentagon, where they'd be sure to be shot down. Oh wait! :fp:
The only psychological damage is that the US people got duped into thinking Iraq was behind Al-q and jumped on yet, another good foray into a foreign land. Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
"there's no need to hide, you're in Canada tonight" I AM MINE
They did drop planes on NYC. Twice that day.
Also, this statement
Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
proves my point. The psychological damage was massive.
Please finish your last statement. If he really wanted to do significant damage...he would have done what? What more could he have done that he was capable of doing?
I do think you are badly underestimating the psychological damage done on 9/11.
I'll take a stab at that: just drop the fucking plane on NYC! Maybe a nuclear power plant. How about right on the city of Boston? LA? Surely these places are not as protected as the pentagon, where they'd be sure to be shot down. Oh wait! :fp:
The only psychological damage is that the US people got duped into thinking Iraq was behind Al-q and jumped on yet, another good foray into a foreign land. Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
"there's no need to hide, you're in Canada tonight" I AM MINE
They did drop planes on NYC. Twice that day.
Also, this statement
Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
proves my point. The psychological damage was massive.
And most likely one was headed towards the White House or Capital Building. Four very strategic targets ... The hearts of our financial, military, and government foundations.
I can't think of any better targets to shake our nation.
I watched the whole thing unfold live in TV while sitting on my futon in my underpants in Seattle ... :(
And most likely one was headed towards the White House or Capital Building. Four very strategic targets ... The hearts of our financial, military, and government foundations.
I can't think of any better targets to shake our nation.
I watched the whole thing unfold live in TV while sitting on my futon in my underpants in Seattle ... :(
... Our way of life changed that day
Hell, I did the same here in LA (not in undies - yet - and after driving 20 miles to work and then returning home because things went beyond upside down that day and it hadn't fully registered with me).
Kept waiting for the other shoe, maybe a couple pairs of them, to drop here. Still have occasional dreams about it, and I'm clear cross-country, so I can only imagine the toll on the psyche it's taken on the general vicinity.
I did not know you could pack 59 souls on to a missle? A very fast moving one at that!
You can show me all the comments from people who saw the "plane". And i can counter with the fact that what compelling pictures they have (not) of the plane anywhere near the building, better yet making that tiny hole in it.
As for the people? First off ask yourself: how does the witness protection program work in the states?
thank you!
they will not show us the pictures/film they have of what smoked the pentagon. I understand they have a lot of video & pictures of something slamming into the building yet only release video footage of a fireball explosion. you see zero plane. you see an explosion. where the frig is the wreckage from a 757 boeing jet?
a 757 boeing jet has a 40 foot tall tail fin wing. wing span 150 foot or something. where the heck is the jet turbines & seats & landing gear.
landing gear & turbines & some other items are indestructible
they found all that stuff from the twin towers debris pile. the pentagon is full of shit.
Please finish your last statement. If he really wanted to do significant damage...he would have done what? What more could he have done that he was capable of doing?
I do think you are badly underestimating the psychological damage done on 9/11.
I'll take a stab at that: just drop the fucking plane on NYC! Maybe a nuclear power plant. How about right on the city of Boston? LA? Surely these places are not as protected as the pentagon, where they'd be sure to be shot down. Oh wait! :fp:
The only psychological damage is that the US people got duped into thinking Iraq was behind Al-q and jumped on yet, another good foray into a foreign land. Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
"there's no need to hide, you're in Canada tonight" I AM MINE
They did drop planes on NYC. Twice that day.
Also, this statement
Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
proves my point. The psychological damage was massive.
On New York City not two buildings that had nary any people in em. If they wanted to make some big noise. That is what you asked polaris but I just took a stab at it. Such a beautiful story that you and some others think that they thought it out to hit everything that is American. Wow, some people buy it hook, line and sinker.
Got your psyche did they? Still go out at night and think the arab boogy man is going to get you?
Did you pull a couple of cab drivers out of their cars and give them their comeupiths too. Buy into the Sadam has poison weapons aimed at Americah? Hell even Powell disappeared after that bullshit came out of his mouth. Take a tip from him. All due to your psyche? The only psyche they got were the swallow it at, all cost , flag waving, American public. Funny the friends who come to visit don't think they did anything to their minds. Life goes on. Get over it. Just like:Like Vietnam, Laos, Iraq, Afgan, Grenada, etc. http://www.maurer.ca/USBombing.html
Wonder what those people think.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
proves my point. The psychological damage was massive.
On New York City not two buildings that had nary any people in em. If they wanted to make some big noise. That is what you asked polaris but I just took a stab at it. Such a beautiful story that you and some others think that they thought it out to hit everything that is American. Wow, some people buy it hook, line and sinker.
So, not only was there no plane at the Pentagon but there were no people in WTC? These are ridiculous claims. Easy to believe in boogiemen in smoke filled rooms pulling the strings. As I said earlier, crashing the plans would be the easiest part. If you seriously believe there was a conspiracy then you play right into its hands by arguing this nonsense.
Ignoring your second paragraph because it was kinda tasteless. Did you really ask me if I beat up cab drivers in the street? C'mon dude. Be better than that.
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'nuff said, case closed.
Good point. I remember thinking there was no way they weren't going to find WMDs for that very reason. And I was wrong.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Why not?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
for some reason american interests seem to supercede those of other countries...
if we cared about the moral high ground, as we always claim that we do, then these presidents would he held accountable.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Thank you, Sir.
...
Opportunists. They saw the opportunity to fufill the dreams of the New American Century and it's primary goal of rebuilding the U.S. Military/Industrial cash cow and they seized it. The war in Iraq required expansion of this venture, so, they made the case... and sold it to America. And we bought it.
Hail, Hail!!!
Let me add:
Yes. To send a message to the Arab World that the untouchable Americans CAN be touched with violence.
If bin Laden had the resources to obtain a greater weapon with a viable delivery system, he would have. But, he had to settle with what he had... voluenteers to fly fuel laden commercial airliners into a limited number of key targets. Those targets needed to make a global statement because of the limited capabilities at hand. It was a simple plan using simple weapons (box cutters) to obtain a greater weapon (commercial airliner) in a target rich environment (Northeastern U.S.).
I have read up on bin Laden because i wanted to get an insight on what drove him... and what we can do to prevent another one from cropping up. EDoing what we are doing is ensuring that there are more bin Laden's out there. We should seriously reconsider our strategy.
Hail, Hail!!!
Every other country ... lock 'em up. (Africa ... don't even think about protesting)
(even the leader of the Isle of Mann should be locked up for staging those suicide Moto TT races ... although they are awesome to watch)
I did not know you could pack 59 souls on to a missle? A very fast moving one at that!
You can show me all the comments from people who saw the "plane". And i can counter with the fact that what compelling pictures they have (not) of the plane anywhere near the building, better yet making that tiny hole in it.
As for the people? First off ask yourself: how does the witness protection program work in the states?
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
The witness protection program?
I think if you believe this stuff (and I do not) you are playing right into the hands of whatever mysterious force orchestrated this conspiracy. Of course there was a plane. Why wouldn't there be? Crashing a plane into the Pentagon, by far, would be the easiest part of pulling this off. By arguing whether there was or was not a plane you are focusing on exactly the question the NWO/Illuminati/Bush Administration/Military Industrial Complex/Facebook want you to.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
what psychological damage? ... all the attacks at 9/11 did was:
* create the motive for 2 wars that both happened to be key strategic locations in the middle east with oil and natural resources
* made every arab, muslim and anyone that looked like one in america a potential threat to racism and ignorance
again - if he really wanted to do significant damage ...
Please finish your last statement. If he really wanted to do significant damage...he would have done what? What more could he have done that he was capable of doing?
I do think you are badly underestimating the psychological damage done on 9/11.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I'll take a stab at that: just drop the fucking plane on NYC! Maybe a nuclear power plant. How about right on the city of Boston? LA? Surely these places are not as protected as the pentagon, where they'd be sure to be shot down. Oh wait! :fp:
The only psychological damage is that the US people got duped into thinking Iraq was behind Al-q and jumped on yet, another good foray into a foreign land. Oh and the constant fear that the population has now.
"there's no need to hide, you're in Canada tonight" I AM MINE
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
They did drop planes on NYC. Twice that day.
Also, this statement
proves my point. The psychological damage was massive.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I can't think of any better targets to shake our nation.
I watched the whole thing unfold live in TV while sitting on my futon in my underpants in Seattle ... :(
... Our way of life changed that day
Kept waiting for the other shoe, maybe a couple pairs of them, to drop here. Still have occasional dreams about it, and I'm clear cross-country, so I can only imagine the toll on the psyche it's taken on the general vicinity.
they will not show us the pictures/film they have of what smoked the pentagon. I understand they have a lot of video & pictures of something slamming into the building yet only release video footage of a fireball explosion. you see zero plane. you see an explosion. where the frig is the wreckage from a 757 boeing jet?
a 757 boeing jet has a 40 foot tall tail fin wing. wing span 150 foot or something. where the heck is the jet turbines & seats & landing gear.
landing gear & turbines & some other items are indestructible
they found all that stuff from the twin towers debris pile. the pentagon is full of shit.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
On New York City not two buildings that had nary any people in em. If they wanted to make some big noise. That is what you asked polaris but I just took a stab at it. Such a beautiful story that you and some others think that they thought it out to hit everything that is American. Wow, some people buy it hook, line and sinker.
Got your psyche did they? Still go out at night and think the arab boogy man is going to get you?
Did you pull a couple of cab drivers out of their cars and give them their comeupiths too. Buy into the Sadam has poison weapons aimed at Americah? Hell even Powell disappeared after that bullshit came out of his mouth. Take a tip from him. All due to your psyche? The only psyche they got were the swallow it at, all cost , flag waving, American public. Funny the friends who come to visit don't think they did anything to their minds. Life goes on. Get over it. Just like:Like Vietnam, Laos, Iraq, Afgan, Grenada, etc. http://www.maurer.ca/USBombing.html
Wonder what those people think.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
So, not only was there no plane at the Pentagon but there were no people in WTC? These are ridiculous claims. Easy to believe in boogiemen in smoke filled rooms pulling the strings. As I said earlier, crashing the plans would be the easiest part. If you seriously believe there was a conspiracy then you play right into its hands by arguing this nonsense.
Ignoring your second paragraph because it was kinda tasteless. Did you really ask me if I beat up cab drivers in the street? C'mon dude. Be better than that.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."