I get that.... and that works... I mean, if it really WORKS. lol
Not sure i want an on the job test though when so many lives are at stake here.
wouldn't they probably have been blown to shit if the US gov't didn't have full faith in its ability to shoot the rockets down?
No. The US doesn't take blowing the shit out of N. Korea - a country that China likes to side with when they want to try and scare people - lightly. N. Korea is going to actually have to bomb something for the US to do anything other than chest pounding.
I would agree, except that Obama is not your typical Dem POTUS.
He's not really afraid to bomb shit. From what I've read, the POTUS went against all his top advisors and Biden about putting troops on the groud to get UBL.
If N. Korea keeps it up, I can fully see Obama taking it up a notch.
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wouldn't they probably have been blown to shit if the US gov't didn't have full faith in its ability to shoot the rockets down?
No. The US doesn't take blowing the shit out of N. Korea - a country that China likes to side with when they want to try and scare people - lightly. N. Korea is going to actually have to bomb something for the US to do anything other than chest pounding.
I would agree, except that Obama is not your typical Dem POTUS.
He's not really afraid to bomb shit. From what I've read, the POTUS went against all his top advisors and Biden about putting troops on the groud to get UBL.
If N. Korea keeps it up, I can fully see Obama taking it up a notch.
I would not connect what he did then and what's going on in any way, shape, or form. Obama is not afraid to take action perhaps, but he doesn't act rashly. Obama is not going to just go and bomb the shit out of N. Korea without an attack by them.
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Are these maniacs just puffing up their chests (or "dick waving", as George Carlin used to say) or are they really going to fire? What madness this is.
(CNN) -- North Korea has raised at least one missile into its upright firing position, feeding concerns that a launch is imminent, a U.S. official told CNN Thursday.
This comes as the world continued to keep watch for a possible missile launch by the secretive government, and a day before U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is expected to arrive in the region.
In the latest daily tough talk from the North, a government agency is quoted by the state-run media as saying that "war can break out any moment."
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
He needs a new hairdo if he is going to be in the limelight ...
I bet his Pops told him what he wanted done ... they are a wound up couple of guys.
Dick waving... would we even notice
Gotta love tyrants, dictators and the like. Oppressing the freedoms and rights of others.
Go to hell in a handbasket.
Boy the ladies can march over there though. Better than any rockette could even dream of.
That takes a strong will to keep that up for awhile ... fit and determined.
Are these maniacs just puffing up their chests (or "dick waving", as George Carlin used to say) or are they really going to fire? What madness this is.
(CNN) -- North Korea has raised at least one missile into its upright firing position, feeding concerns that a launch is imminent, a U.S. official told CNN Thursday.
This comes as the world continued to keep watch for a possible missile launch by the secretive government, and a day before U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is expected to arrive in the region.
In the latest daily tough talk from the North, a government agency is quoted by the state-run media as saying that "war can break out any moment."
Life is generally continuing as normal in the region, however, despite the North's barrage of recent threats, which have included warnings to foreigners on the peninsula about their safety in the event of conflict,
South Koreans, who have experienced decades of North Korean rage and posturing -- and occasional localized attacks -- have gone about their daily business without alarm.
"South Korea has been living under such threats from the past, and we are always prepared for it," South Korean Unification Minister Ryoo Kihl-jae told CNN Wednesday. He called the current climate "a very ordinary situation."
Tourist visits to the North appear not to have been significantly affected by the situation. China says that while some tour groups have canceled trips, the border between the two countries is still operating normally.
He needs a new hairdo if he is going to be in the limelight ...
I bet his Pops told him what he wanted done ... they are a wound up couple of guys.
Dick waving... would we even notice
Gotta love tyrants, dictators and the like. Oppressing the freedoms and rights of others.
Go to hell in a handbasket.
Boy the ladies can march over there though. Better than any rockette could even dream of.
That takes a strong will to keep that up for awhile ... fit and determined.
They were both guys who had murdered people and witnessed torture by the age of 9. And a whole lot of other crazy shit. Plus, they loll in luxury and are lauded as supreme beings in the midst of poverty and oppression (them being the god-sent oppressors). That's how Kim Jong Il was raised, and that's how Jr. was raised too. They were/are both absolute psychopaths. Assuming this guy is going to be logical is a mistake.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He needs a new hairdo if he is going to be in the limelight ...
I bet his Pops told him what he wanted done ... they are a wound up couple of guys.
Dick waving... would we even notice
Gotta love tyrants, dictators and the like. Oppressing the freedoms and rights of others.
Go to hell in a handbasket.
Boy the ladies can march over there though. Better than any rockette could even dream of.
That takes a strong will to keep that up for awhile ... fit and determined.
They were both guys who had murdered people and witnessed torture by the age of 9. And a whole lot of other crazy shit. Plus, they loll in luxury and are lauded as supreme beings in the midst of poverty and oppression (them being the god-sent oppressors). That's how Kim Jong Il was raised, and that's how Jr. was raised too. They were/are both absolute psychopaths. Assuming this guy is going to be logical is a mistake.
sounds fun. let's call up dennis rodman. wait
never mind. he's already at jong un palace dining fine & poking the eyes out of new born kittens w/ his friend(s) of the north.
do you think dennis rodman could have been born & raised in N.K.?
A new young leader a year into his lifeterm.
A new Chinese leader in the first year of his 10 year term.
A new S Korean leader in the first year of her term.
A new Japanese leader in the first year of his term.
A newly Re-elected US leader in the first year of his second term.
Young UN is posturing and I think his balls are dropping, as well as being advised by the old guard military , who I have heard has had a wave of retirements of the old generals.
I belive to ignore him would be worse than our saber rattling in the short term.
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eat every asian meal at every asian country. - insects & other things. so i wonder what jong un eats & i wonder what a peasant might be dining on? i think about what is going on in a traditional asian kitchen in the back alleys in some huge insane city all slum style at 4am
i dream in graphic detail on heroin & opium smuggling up & down river deltas, seas, mountains or jungle
no wars i wanna eat some good korean food. can ppl in korea get high?
I saw the brick breaking one before but never saw the air force or navy clips before. wwII jets & wwII battleships? those gunboats are tiny & are firing bb guns. these folks may not even know what kind of ships & bomber or fighter jets we have. they truly may be living in the dark ages as they very well could be uninformed
dudes, your ships are blowing trails of diesel smoke. the u.s. navy uses nuclear powdered ships & submarines. are jets are 4 times as quick as yours & the list goes on.
One of the comments on youtube was something to the effect of "those ships are going to be target practice if it comes down to it".
I certainly hope that it does not.
How on earth do we turn N.K. on to the idea of peace? It won't happen for them unless the people overthrow their crazy leaders. But using violence to gain peace seems contradictory. No easy answers.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
How on earth do we turn N.K. on to the idea of peace? It won't happen for them unless the people overthrow their crazy leaders. But using violence to gain peace seems contradictory. No easy answers.
I don't know... I don't think anyone knows.
There needs to be a revolution and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. It just blows my mind that the people are that indoctrinated.
How on earth do we turn N.K. on to the idea of peace? It won't happen for them unless the people overthrow their crazy leaders. But using violence to gain peace seems contradictory. No easy answers.
I don't know... I don't think anyone knows.
There needs to be a revolution and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. It just blows my mind that the people are that indoctrinated.
if its all they've known and all they've ever seen how would they know theres an alternative? imo there needs to be serious dialogue with the NK govt. we need to find out what it is they want... what they need. why they feel the need to be freaking people out. they also need to be told that we can help them and that we are prepared to work with them but that but there is a line and we wont just hand over everything they require if we aren't going to get some rock solid assurances in return. introduce them to the concept of quid pro quo.
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How on earth do we turn N.K. on to the idea of peace? It won't happen for them unless the people overthrow their crazy leaders. But using violence to gain peace seems contradictory. No easy answers.
I don't know... I don't think anyone knows.
There needs to be a revolution and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. It just blows my mind that the people are that indoctrinated.
if its all they've known and all they've ever seen how would they know theres an alternative? imo there needs to be serious dialogue with the NK govt. we need to find out what it is they want... what they need. why they feel the need to be freaking people out. they also need to be told that we can help them and that we are prepared to work with them but that but there is a line and we wont just hand over everything they require if we aren't going to get some rock solid assurances in return. introduce them to the concept of quid pro quo.
If they want food or water, sure. That can be bartered. Better yet, we can teach them to farm properly and make their own food if that is an issue.
I certainly hope we wouldn't ever sell them weapons...
The kid needs to calm the fuck down first and then I say we can talk to them. Right now, I'd rather ignore them. Kim Un isn't stupid enough to launch a nuke, in my opinion. I see this as nothing more than trying to get attention.
if its all they've known and all they've ever seen how would they know theres an alternative? imo there needs to be serious dialogue with the NK govt. we need to find out what it is they want... what they need. why they feel the need to be freaking people out. they also need to be told that we can help them and that we are prepared to work with them but that but there is a line and we wont just hand over everything they require if we aren't going to get some rock solid assurances in return. introduce them to the concept of quid pro quo.
If they want food or water, sure. That can be bartered. Better yet, we can teach them to farm properly and make their own food if that is an issue.
I certainly hope we wouldn't ever sell them weapons...
The kid needs to calm the fuck down first and then I say we can talk to them. Right now, I'd rather ignore them. Kim Un isn't stupid enough to launch a nuke, in my opinion. I see this as nothing more than trying to get attention.
there is no question of ever selling them weapons. that is counter productive, and quite possibly very destructive for everyone involved. sanctions don't work because the NK govt simply uses that to show their people just how 'evil' the rest of the world(and certain countries) are. kim jong-un has sat at the knee of his father probably since birth, so his actions are reflective of that myopic world. the issue isn't about whether or not they can produce their own food. they could if they wanted.... if it were allowed. but it plays more into the govts propaganda if they are deprived and the finger for such depravation be pointed at an outside source. it is sad the people are cut off so effectively from the outside world and equally sad that all they hear and know is what is approved by their govt. I don't really have the answers cause growing up in the country that I have ive never been deprived, nor censored, nor been afraid of saying anything I wanted anytime I wanted to say it and ive never feared my govts retribution... so its easy for me to speak about what I think the issue is with nth korea. and I wish that everyone everywhere had that same level of freedom. and I agree with you that kim jung-un isn't foolish enough to actually launch any nukes cause I have no doubt he knows exactly what will happen if he does.
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I would agree, except that Obama is not your typical Dem POTUS.
He's not really afraid to bomb shit. From what I've read, the POTUS went against all his top advisors and Biden about putting troops on the groud to get UBL.
If N. Korea keeps it up, I can fully see Obama taking it up a notch.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
north korea - children of the secret state
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
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North Korean refugee
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world/asi ... ?hpt=hp_t1
(CNN) -- North Korea has raised at least one missile into its upright firing position, feeding concerns that a launch is imminent, a U.S. official told CNN Thursday.
This comes as the world continued to keep watch for a possible missile launch by the secretive government, and a day before U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is expected to arrive in the region.
In the latest daily tough talk from the North, a government agency is quoted by the state-run media as saying that "war can break out any moment."
I bet his Pops told him what he wanted done ... they are a wound up couple of guys.
Dick waving... would we even notice
Gotta love tyrants, dictators and the like. Oppressing the freedoms and rights of others.
Go to hell in a handbasket.
Boy the ladies can march over there though. Better than any rockette could even dream of.
That takes a strong will to keep that up for awhile ... fit and determined.
Life is generally continuing as normal in the region, however, despite the North's barrage of recent threats, which have included warnings to foreigners on the peninsula about their safety in the event of conflict,
South Koreans, who have experienced decades of North Korean rage and posturing -- and occasional localized attacks -- have gone about their daily business without alarm.
"South Korea has been living under such threats from the past, and we are always prepared for it," South Korean Unification Minister Ryoo Kihl-jae told CNN Wednesday. He called the current climate "a very ordinary situation."
Tourist visits to the North appear not to have been significantly affected by the situation. China says that while some tour groups have canceled trips, the border between the two countries is still operating normally.
So I will have to say goodbye to all you friendly people. :wave:
http://www.kvue.com/news/NKorea-orders- ... 90371.html
It could be an elaborate plot to wipe out the Southern U.S.A. so Pearl Jam doesn't have to tour
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
never mind. he's already at jong un palace dining fine & poking the eyes out of new born kittens w/ his friend(s) of the north.
do you think dennis rodman could have been born & raised in N.K.?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
All of it, yes.
China and US make North Korea nuclear pledge
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22131316
A new young leader a year into his lifeterm.
A new Chinese leader in the first year of his 10 year term.
A new S Korean leader in the first year of her term.
A new Japanese leader in the first year of his term.
A newly Re-elected US leader in the first year of his second term.
Young UN is posturing and I think his balls are dropping, as well as being advised by the old guard military , who I have heard has had a wave of retirements of the old generals.
I belive to ignore him would be worse than our saber rattling in the short term.
Interesting times , indeed.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
eat every asian meal at every asian country. - insects & other things. so i wonder what jong un eats & i wonder what a peasant might be dining on? i think about what is going on in a traditional asian kitchen in the back alleys in some huge insane city all slum style at 4am
i dream in graphic detail on heroin & opium smuggling up & down river deltas, seas, mountains or jungle
no wars i wanna eat some good korean food. can ppl in korea get high?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Air Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feat ... b0ZyGOi2ME
Army
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEL2jlEt9o
Navy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR4lonEO4tY
I hope they don't come into our cities and smash all of our bricks with their bare hands. :shock:
:thumbup:
I saw the brick breaking one before but never saw the air force or navy clips before. wwII jets & wwII battleships? those gunboats are tiny & are firing bb guns. these folks may not even know what kind of ships & bomber or fighter jets we have. they truly may be living in the dark ages as they very well could be uninformed
dudes, your ships are blowing trails of diesel smoke. the u.s. navy uses nuclear powdered ships & submarines. are jets are 4 times as quick as yours & the list goes on.
the world needs peace
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Agreed
One of the comments on youtube was something to the effect of "those ships are going to be target practice if it comes down to it".
I certainly hope that it does not.
How on earth do we turn N.K. on to the idea of peace? It won't happen for them unless the people overthrow their crazy leaders. But using violence to gain peace seems contradictory. No easy answers.
I don't know... I don't think anyone knows.
There needs to be a revolution and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. It just blows my mind that the people are that indoctrinated.
if its all they've known and all they've ever seen how would they know theres an alternative? imo there needs to be serious dialogue with the NK govt. we need to find out what it is they want... what they need. why they feel the need to be freaking people out. they also need to be told that we can help them and that we are prepared to work with them but that but there is a line and we wont just hand over everything they require if we aren't going to get some rock solid assurances in return. introduce them to the concept of quid pro quo.
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to extort cash
and
to extort food
They've done it before, they're doing it now, and will do it again
plain and simple
If they want food or water, sure. That can be bartered. Better yet, we can teach them to farm properly and make their own food if that is an issue.
I certainly hope we wouldn't ever sell them weapons...
The kid needs to calm the fuck down first and then I say we can talk to them. Right now, I'd rather ignore them. Kim Un isn't stupid enough to launch a nuke, in my opinion. I see this as nothing more than trying to get attention.
Because they aren't self-sufficient in any way besides having a huge army.... fucking sad
there is no question of ever selling them weapons. that is counter productive, and quite possibly very destructive for everyone involved. sanctions don't work because the NK govt simply uses that to show their people just how 'evil' the rest of the world(and certain countries) are. kim jong-un has sat at the knee of his father probably since birth, so his actions are reflective of that myopic world. the issue isn't about whether or not they can produce their own food. they could if they wanted.... if it were allowed. but it plays more into the govts propaganda if they are deprived and the finger for such depravation be pointed at an outside source. it is sad the people are cut off so effectively from the outside world and equally sad that all they hear and know is what is approved by their govt. I don't really have the answers cause growing up in the country that I have ive never been deprived, nor censored, nor been afraid of saying anything I wanted anytime I wanted to say it and ive never feared my govts retribution... so its easy for me to speak about what I think the issue is with nth korea. and I wish that everyone everywhere had that same level of freedom. and I agree with you that kim jung-un isn't foolish enough to actually launch any nukes cause I have no doubt he knows exactly what will happen if he does.
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so lets help them break the cycle.
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this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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