N. Korean Nuclear Threats

brianlux

Nuclear madness:

(CNN) -- The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously Thursday for tougher sanctions against North Korea.

China, North Korea's key ally, could have vetoed the resolution -- but instead agreed to it.

Leading up to the vote, Pyongyang unleashed an even harsher bout of fiery rhetoric than usual, threatening its enemies with the possibility of a "preemptive nuclear attack."

Despite the strong language, analysts say North Korea is still years away from having the technology necessary to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile and aim it accurately at a target.

The bellicose statement, carried by the North's state-run Korean Central News Agency, came during a week of high tension on the Korean Peninsula as military drills take place on either side of the heavily armed border that divides the two Koreas.

On Tuesday, North Korea said it planned to scrap the armistice that stopped the Korean War in 1953 and warned it could carry out strikes against the United States and South Korea.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/world/asi ... ?hpt=hp_t2

brianlux

Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar

Last-12-Exit

IF north Korea decides to launch a nuclear strike, China won't condone it, will they? I would think they would allow us to turn them into a wasteland. But who knows....

brianlux

Last-12-Exit wrote:

IF north Korea decides to launch a nuclear strike, China won't condone it, will they? I would think they would allow us to turn them into a wasteland. But who knows....

China is still considered their ally so I'm not sure.

Just the thought of any country threatening to nuke another is just mid boggling. It's the 1950 all over again.

lukin2006

brianlux wrote:

Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar

You are right the people of North Korea are Not the problem. Unfortunately how much of the foreign aid actually reach the people? Sadly most and any foreign aid likely goes to the leadership of the country and the military (4th largest military) ... and that's a lot of military too feed. Unfortunately I don't think much will change in North Korea.

brianlux

lukin2006 wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar

You are right the people of North Korea are Not the problem. Unfortunately how much of the foreign aid actually reach the people? Sadly most and any foreign aid likely goes to the leadership of the country and the military (4th largest military) ... and that's a lot of military too feed. Unfortunately I don't think much will change in North Korea.

Probably not much aid gets to the people. A little off subject but, I've always thought the best aid one country can give to another is the tools and skills for those people to learn how to make it on their own.

Maybe what the people of N. Korea need is the skill and bravery to stand up to their twisted government... but how do you do that, especially when their biggest day-to-day concern is finding something to eat. No easy answers.

JonnyPistachio

this is getting ugly. From what I can tell, China is not happy with NK either.

hedonist

I blame Rodman.

lukin2006

brianlux wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar

You are right the people of North Korea are Not the problem. Unfortunately how much of the foreign aid actually reach the people? Sadly most and any foreign aid likely goes to the leadership of the country and the military (4th largest military) ... and that's a lot of military too feed. Unfortunately I don't think much will change in North Korea.

Probably not much aid gets to the people. A little off subject but, I've always thought the best aid one country can give to another is the tools and skills for those people to learn how to make it on their own.

Maybe what the people of N. Korea need is the skill and bravery to stand up to their twisted government... but how do you do that, especially when their biggest day-to-day concern is finding something to eat. No easy answers.

I agree ... unfortunately the NK dictators use starvation and fear to keep control ... very sad. The only way any country should agree to increase aid is if volunteers from maybe SK or China can deliver the food and medicine to the people ... but pretty sure NK would never agree ... they would not want the world to know the truth, even though we already do.

STAYSEA

I was under the impression that Dennis Rodman made peace?


I'm more concerned with these drones.

There are no easy answers. I can only support immigrants and refugees that have the chance to escape. It's a small part. North Korea and Cuba just don't like America.

History always repeats. What normally happens to dictators

Cosmo

You know what, North Korea? Fuck you.

Jason P

hedonist wrote:

I blame Rodman.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement for diplomatic skills when you leave and a day later the country threatens a nuclear attack on your country.

:fp:

I've had enough of North Korea's pish-posh. It's been over a decade since we've taken out another country's infrastructure in a fortnight and I'm sure we have a whole new generation of smart bombs that could use some field testing.

whgarrett

I sure as hell wish we didn't have 20000+ troops over there.

the wolf

Coming from a very "anti-war" guy here are my thoughts. We (the U.S.) along with the U.N. have to do something about North Korea. If it means airstrikes and boots on the ground, so be it.
We ( the whole world ) can no longer let the leaders of N. Korea get by with this way of thinking.
We have to take out the govt. and let the good people of N. Korea see how fucked up it's been for them bcause of their Govt. It will mean a uniting of North and South Korea, which will not be easy, but
it also means taking out the problem. The N. Korea Govt./Leaders are starving it's people.
I think its unfortunate, but i do believe it's time action is taken.

I won't "support" the war if there is one, but i won't be "against" it either.

tough situation, and as much as i hate war, sometimes it is the right answer.

pj1981

Heard this on the news at lunchbreak ... scary shit
I hope young son 2 doesn't have an itchy finger, hope he's all talk or at least enough
sense to not go there.

Cosmo

Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.

Go Beavers

the wolf wrote:

Coming from a very "anti-war" guy here are my thoughts. We (the U.S.) along with the U.N. have to do something about North Korea. If it means airstrikes and boots on the ground, so be it.
We ( the whole world ) can no longer let the leaders of N. Korea get by with this way of thinking.
We have to take out the govt. and let the good people of N. Korea see how fucked up it's been for them bcause of their Govt. It will mean a uniting of North and South Korea, which will not be easy, but
it also means taking out the problem. The N. Korea Govt./Leaders are starving it's people.
I think its unfortunate, but i do believe it's time action is taken.

I won't "support" the war if there is one, but i won't be "against" it either.

tough situation, and as much as i hate war, sometimes it is the right answer.

You might want to reconsider the notion that you're "very anti-war". This is one of the more pro-war statements I've read in awhile.

josevolution

Cosmo wrote:

Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.

Yeah let's drone this prick back to where he came from , a hole ...

Cosmo

josevolution wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.

Yeah let's drone this prick back to where he came from , a hole ...

...
I'm not saying that... i'm saying that we just ignore this Krispy Kreme filled human and his bullshit threats.
If their threats turn into actions... "RELEASE THE PREDATORS!!!"
Until then, it's all just bullshit... they know it, we know it... just the North Korean public is in the dark on this one.

whgarrett

I agree completely. The rhetoric should be ignored. Until something is actually done, we should stay out of it.

I sick and tired of preemptive strikes.

Then again, I'm not even sure if I would believe it if the media/government told me North Korea just blew up (add city/state/whatever).

josevolution

Cosmo wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.

Yeah let's drone this prick back to where he came from , a hole ...

...
I'm not saying that... i'm saying that we just ignore this Krispy Kreme filled human and his bullshit threats.
If their threats turn into actions... "RELEASE THE PREDATORS!!!"
Until then, it's all just bullshit... they know it, we know it... just the North Korean public is in the dark on this one.

I know i know and i agree pay them no attention ..