N. Korean Nuclear Threats

brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
edited April 2013 in A Moving Train
Nuclear madness:

(CNN) -- The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously Thursday for tougher sanctions against North Korea.

China, North Korea's key ally, could have vetoed the resolution -- but instead agreed to it.

Leading up to the vote, Pyongyang unleashed an even harsher bout of fiery rhetoric than usual, threatening its enemies with the possibility of a "preemptive nuclear attack."

Despite the strong language, analysts say North Korea is still years away from having the technology necessary to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile and aim it accurately at a target.

The bellicose statement, carried by the North's state-run Korean Central News Agency, came during a week of high tension on the Korean Peninsula as military drills take place on either side of the heavily armed border that divides the two Koreas.

On Tuesday, North Korea said it planned to scrap the armistice that stopped the Korean War in 1953 and warned it could carry out strikes against the United States and South Korea.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/world/asi ... ?hpt=hp_t2
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    IF north Korea decides to launch a nuclear strike, China won't condone it, will they? I would think they would allow us to turn them into a wasteland. But who knows....
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    IF north Korea decides to launch a nuclear strike, China won't condone it, will they? I would think they would allow us to turn them into a wasteland. But who knows....

    China is still considered their ally so I'm not sure.

    Just the thought of any country threatening to nuke another is just mid boggling. It's the 1950 all over again.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    brianlux wrote:
    Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar

    You are right the people of North Korea are Not the problem. Unfortunately how much of the foreign aid actually reach the people? Sadly most and any foreign aid likely goes to the leadership of the country and the military (4th largest military) ... and that's a lot of military too feed. Unfortunately I don't think much will change in North Korea.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    lukin2006 wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar

    You are right the people of North Korea are Not the problem. Unfortunately how much of the foreign aid actually reach the people? Sadly most and any foreign aid likely goes to the leadership of the country and the military (4th largest military) ... and that's a lot of military too feed. Unfortunately I don't think much will change in North Korea.

    Probably not much aid gets to the people. A little off subject but, I've always thought the best aid one country can give to another is the tools and skills for those people to learn how to make it on their own.

    Maybe what the people of N. Korea need is the skill and bravery to stand up to their twisted government... but how do you do that, especially when their biggest day-to-day concern is finding something to eat. No easy answers.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    this is getting ugly. From what I can tell, China is not happy with NK either.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I blame Rodman.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    brianlux wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Here's a related article that points out that the leadership of N. Korea is more the problem than the people. The people of North Korea are starving. So what do you do? Cut off commerce with a country whose people are starving? I don't see any easy answers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/opinion/k ... le_sidebar

    You are right the people of North Korea are Not the problem. Unfortunately how much of the foreign aid actually reach the people? Sadly most and any foreign aid likely goes to the leadership of the country and the military (4th largest military) ... and that's a lot of military too feed. Unfortunately I don't think much will change in North Korea.

    Probably not much aid gets to the people. A little off subject but, I've always thought the best aid one country can give to another is the tools and skills for those people to learn how to make it on their own.

    Maybe what the people of N. Korea need is the skill and bravery to stand up to their twisted government... but how do you do that, especially when their biggest day-to-day concern is finding something to eat. No easy answers.

    I agree ... unfortunately the NK dictators use starvation and fear to keep control ... very sad. The only way any country should agree to increase aid is if volunteers from maybe SK or China can deliver the food and medicine to the people ... but pretty sure NK would never agree ... they would not want the world to know the truth, even though we already do.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    I was under the impression that Dennis Rodman made peace?
    :lol:

    I'm more concerned with these drones.

    There are no easy answers. I can only support immigrants and refugees that have the chance to escape. It's a small part. North Korea and Cuba just don't like America.

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    You know what, North Korea? Fuck you.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    hedonist wrote:
    I blame Rodman.
    Not exactly a ringing endorsement for diplomatic skills when you leave and a day later the country threatens a nuclear attack on your country.

    :fp: :lol:

    I've had enough of North Korea's pish-posh. It's been over a decade since we've taken out another country's infrastructure in a fortnight and I'm sure we have a whole new generation of smart bombs that could use some field testing.
  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    I sure as hell wish we didn't have 20000+ troops over there.
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    Coming from a very "anti-war" guy here are my thoughts. We (the U.S.) along with the U.N. have to do something about North Korea. If it means airstrikes and boots on the ground, so be it.
    We ( the whole world ) can no longer let the leaders of N. Korea get by with this way of thinking.
    We have to take out the govt. and let the good people of N. Korea see how fucked up it's been for them bcause of their Govt. It will mean a uniting of North and South Korea, which will not be easy, but
    it also means taking out the problem. The N. Korea Govt./Leaders are starving it's people.
    I think its unfortunate, but i do believe it's time action is taken.

    I won't "support" the war if there is one, but i won't be "against" it either.

    tough situation, and as much as i hate war, sometimes it is the right answer.
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  • pj1981pj1981 Posts: 288
    Heard this on the news at lunchbreak ... scary shit
    I hope young son 2 doesn't have an itchy finger, hope he's all talk or at least enough
    sense to not go there.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
    So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
    It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
    This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
    So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,104
    the wolf wrote:
    Coming from a very "anti-war" guy here are my thoughts. We (the U.S.) along with the U.N. have to do something about North Korea. If it means airstrikes and boots on the ground, so be it.
    We ( the whole world ) can no longer let the leaders of N. Korea get by with this way of thinking.
    We have to take out the govt. and let the good people of N. Korea see how fucked up it's been for them bcause of their Govt. It will mean a uniting of North and South Korea, which will not be easy, but
    it also means taking out the problem. The N. Korea Govt./Leaders are starving it's people.
    I think its unfortunate, but i do believe it's time action is taken.

    I won't "support" the war if there is one, but i won't be "against" it either.

    tough situation, and as much as i hate war, sometimes it is the right answer.

    You might want to reconsider the notion that you're "very anti-war". This is one of the more pro-war statements I've read in awhile.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,609
    Cosmo wrote:
    Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
    So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
    It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
    This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
    So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.

    Yeah let's drone this prick back to where he came from , a hole ...
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Cosmo wrote:
    Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
    So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
    It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
    This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
    So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.

    Yeah let's drone this prick back to where he came from , a hole ...
    ...
    I'm not saying that... i'm saying that we just ignore this Krispy Kreme filled human and his bullshit threats.
    If their threats turn into actions... "RELEASE THE PREDATORS!!!"
    Until then, it's all just bullshit... they know it, we know it... just the North Korean public is in the dark on this one.
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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    I agree completely. The rhetoric should be ignored. Until something is actually done, we should stay out of it.

    I sick and tired of preemptive strikes.

    Then again, I'm not even sure if I would believe it if the media/government told me North Korea just blew up (add city/state/whatever).
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,609
    Cosmo wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Look... the Korean Govenment tells the Korean people that the U.S.S. Pueblo is the greatest, most powerful battleship the U.S. has ever created... and they captured it.
    So, the Joe Korean dude might think this... but Baby 'Gangham Style' Huey knows we have aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruise missles and flying death robots. He is just talking shit. I mean, look at the fucking guy. A soft, chubby, Pilbury Doughboy that thinks he's fucking Rambo because he controls a bullshit military whose front like fighter jet is a MiG-21. Yeah, they have MiG-29s and Su-27s, but those pilots aren't idiots and will defect to South Korea as soon as they their squad leader get splashed by a Sparrow missile.
    It's the same shit as Saddam Hussein and his, 'Mother Of All Battles' in 1991. Oooooohhhh... scary.
    This guy just talks shit because his people are so unaware of the real world and only know the world as told to them by their pudgy little fat fuck of a leader.
    So... fuck him and his bullshit threats.

    Yeah let's drone this prick back to where he came from , a hole ...
    ...
    I'm not saying that... i'm saying that we just ignore this Krispy Kreme filled human and his bullshit threats.
    If their threats turn into actions... "RELEASE THE PREDATORS!!!"
    Until then, it's all just bullshit... they know it, we know it... just the North Korean public is in the dark on this one.

    I know i know and i agree pay them no attention ..
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    whgarrett wrote:
    Until something is actually done, we should stay out of it.
    Like North Korea torpedoing a South Korean warship?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10129703

    Or bombing a South Korean island?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/8153000/North-Korea-bombs-South-Koreas-Yeonpyeong-Island.html

    I agree that most of it is talk, buuuttttt ..... they do have nukes .... they are testing intercontinental ballistic missiles …. And they have a history of having a hair trigger. And they just scraped an armistice deal which to my knowledge pretty much means we at war with them right now ... at least in their minds.

    Just say'n.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    whgarrett wrote:
    I agree completely. The rhetoric should be ignored. Until something is actually done, we should stay out of it.

    I sick and tired of preemptive strikes.

    Then again, I'm not even sure if I would believe it if the media/government told me North Korea just blew up (add city/state/whatever).
    ...
    They would have a difficult time pulling that off... both Korea and some U.S. led conspiracy.
    Korean delivery systems are primative by today's standards. We can keep and eye on their missles with our early detection systems and already know the trajectory paths they will need to take, on attacks against U.S. soil.
    South Korea... that's a different story. But, that something that should be left for the south Koreans to decide, not us. We can assist them as needed, but it is their call to make... and their responsibility, should they make the call. We should not be the World's Cops... nobody assigned that to us.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jason P wrote:
    whgarrett wrote:
    Until something is actually done, we should stay out of it.
    Like North Korea torpedoing a South Korean warship?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10129703

    Or bombing a South Korean island?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/8153000/North-Korea-bombs-South-Koreas-Yeonpyeong-Island.html

    I agree that most of it is talk, buuuttttt ..... they do have nukes .... they are testing intercontinental ballistic missiles …. And they have a history of having a hair trigger. And they just scraped an armistice deal which to my knowledge pretty much means we at war with them right now ... at least in their minds.

    Just say'n.
    ...
    That shit is in China's backyard... If China doesn't want a nuclear bomb going off on the other side of their fence... they can deal with that shit.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    kim's actions are nothing more than douchebaggery masquerading as strength.

    and like with all douchebags, things will not go well for him...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    kim's actions are nothing more than douchebaggery masquerading as strength.

    and like with all douchebags, things will not go well for him...
    ...
    I see a Military Coup in his future.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Cosmo wrote:
    kim's actions are nothing more than douchebaggery masquerading as strength.

    and like with all douchebags, things will not go well for him...
    ...
    I see a Military Coup in his future.
    most likely orchestrated by the masters or such things...the cia...

    just my hunch.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    anyone think this is Suicide by United States?

    as in, N.Korea sees the writing on the wall and would rather be taken down than shown to be such a massive failure...the delusion is shocking.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    most likely orchestrated by the masters or such things...the cia...

    just my hunch.
    They will probalbly send in two GLG-20 ranked agents to get it done. Of course, there will need to be a couple of decoys to throw the North Koreans off the scent ...

    :think:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    most likely orchestrated by the masters or such things...the cia...

    just my hunch.
    They will probalbly send in two GLG-20 ranked agents to get it done. Of course, there will need to be a couple of decoys to throw the North Koreans off the scent ...

    :think:
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    :P
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