Ex Cop in LA rampage......

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  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    dignin wrote:
    Fire may have been intentionally started by police. Audio recorded from the police scanners.

    http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/1 ... d_fire_had

    and a longer youtube video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwKlZWEM ... e=youtu.be

    Here's an article about it as well.

    http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from ... herfucker/
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Better Dan wrote:
    dignin wrote:
    Fire may have been intentionally started by police. Audio recorded from the police scanners.

    http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/1 ... d_fire_had

    and a longer youtube video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwKlZWEM ... e=youtu.be

    Here's an article about it as well.

    http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from ... herfucker/


    I get that cops can't serve vigilante justice but anyone who thought this was going to end any other was is delusional. I also can't seem to get worked up about what happened. The world is better with this guy dead, I don't really give a shit how it happened.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    hedonist wrote:
    Yeah, I'm with you (and having mixed emotions on this too).
    I think he tried in his way initiallly - and wasn't a "nut bar" until he felt pushed to that extreme.
    That said, I've been thinking more about the lives he took than the one who took them.
    Guessing a whole lot more is to come to the forefront on this.
    ...
    I understand the sentiment... the L.A.P.D. has to address some serious internal racial problems throughout its ranks. It has been this way for some time. The only thing the Rodney King riots brought about was to drive the racism underground. You cannot change a racist by simply telling him that racism is wrong.

    However... all sentiment is lost when he murdered a young Fullerton Women's Basketball coach who was only guilty of being the daughter of a police captain... and an innocent young man whose only crime was to love that woman. Dorner is a quadruple murderer who snuck up and murdered 3 and one who was responding to those crimes.

    I fully understand his grievences with the department... but, none of those points takes away the fact that he was a murderer.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Cosmo wrote:
    he was a murderer.
    I hear you on this. Take your own life if need be, but innocents?

    The funeral for the first officer who was killed begins shortly.

    Saying that I feel for these people seems woefully inadequate.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited February 2013
    So, the cops started the fire, leading to him shooting himself, I'm guessing.
    Post edited by Jeanwah on
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I understand the sentiment... the L.A.P.D. has to address some serious internal racial problems throughout its ranks. It has been this way for some time. The only thing the Rodney King riots brought about was to drive the racism underground. You cannot change a racist by simply telling him that racism is wrong.

    However... all sentiment is lost when he murdered a young Fullerton Women's Basketball coach who was only guilty of being the daughter of a police captain... and an innocent young man whose only crime was to love that woman. Dorner is a quadruple murderer who snuck up and murdered 3 and one who was responding to those crimes.

    I fully understand his grievences with the department... but, none of those points takes away the fact that he was a murderer.

    I hear you Cosmo. I kind of saw this guy attempting to drag the LAPD through the mud, and good on him for exposing the racial problems among others with the p.d. But he blew any credibility once he murdered an innocent victim.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    this reminds me of the north hollywood shootout

    http://www.nowthisnews.com/news/shockin ... firefight/
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Even if this guy was wronged, which is a HUGE if. He murdered 4 people. Dead. Gone. Families devestated because this asshole decided death was justifiable payback for his issues.
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Even if this guy was wronged, which is a HUGE if. He murdered 4 people. Dead. Gone. Families devestated because this asshole decided death was justifiable payback for his issues.

    exactly. Here are the people he killed: http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphi ... d-victims/

    There are other ways to expose corruption. Dorner is a fucking idiot murderer.
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  • pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Bullshit... he likely got screwed by his employer, so have millions of other people. But once you shoot INNOCENT people as some sort of revenge, you are worse than the people who fired you. He lost his job, the victim's families lost their whole world.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Bullshit... he likely got screwed by his employer, so have millions of other people. But once you shoot INNOCENT people as some sort of revenge, you are worse than the people who fired you. He lost his job, the victim's families lost their whole world.

    Bingo
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Even if this guy was wronged, which is a HUGE if. He murdered 4 people. Dead. Gone. Families devestated because this asshole decided death was justifiable payback for his issues.

    exactly. Here are the people he killed: http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphi ... d-victims/

    There are other ways to expose corruption. Dorner is a fucking idiot murderer.

    All 35 or younger. Brutal
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Even if this guy was wronged, which is a HUGE if. He murdered 4 people. Dead. Gone. Families devestated because this asshole decided death was justifiable payback for his issues.
    I actually do think he was wronged, and that there's much fucked-upness within the LAPD. Same token, there are also many stand-up people on the force.

    There may be a reason for what he did, but not an excuse. Not by a longshot...no pun intended.

    Whatever empathy I had for him at the get-go is long gone. Much like the lives he took.

    Walk a mile, pandora? Don't need to, don't want to.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    If I get screwed on an insurance claim due to a corrupt system, it is not OK for me to start killing people to get the message out.

    :fp:
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    hedonist wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Even if this guy was wronged, which is a HUGE if. He murdered 4 people. Dead. Gone. Families devestated because this asshole decided death was justifiable payback for his issues.
    I actually do think he was wronged, and that there's much fucked-upness within the LAPD. Same token, there are also many stand-up people on the force.

    There may be a reason for what he did, but not an excuse. Not by a longshot...no pun intended.

    Whatever empathy I had for him at the get-go is long gone. Much like the lives he took.

    Walk a mile, pandora? Don't need to, don't want to.
    yes I see that
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Causation.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Jason P wrote:
    If I get screwed on an insurance claim due to a corrupt system, it is not OK for me to start killing people to get the message out.

    :fp:
    How can you compare that to what he experienced at least find something similar :fp:
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Even if this guy was wronged, which is a HUGE if. He murdered 4 people. Dead. Gone. Families devestated because this asshole decided death was justifiable payback for his issues.
    yes he did but unfortunately no change will come... funny no one seems very upset about that.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    edited February 2013
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.

    Causation.
    cause and effect... karma taken into ones own hands... payback

    he's as guilty as sin
    Post edited by pandora on
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    Terrible I know but also hilarious and I needed a laugh today:

    not-dorner-480x377.jpg
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Some people see only black and white when in the deep gray is where understanding lies.
    Must I always say I don't condone the methods used but understand them.
    Why?
    If good could come from bad, the corrupt would be punished here
    instead of lying, hiding, and blaming and worst of all pretending, pretending to be good cops.
    Change to this police force and probably many across the country should be demanded
    in the wake of this but instead we will focus one one man's revenge cause it's so much easier.
    Why feel his pain at all? Or listen to what he wanted us to do.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    pandora wrote:
    Some people see only black and white when in the deep gray is where understanding lies.
    Must I always say I don't condone the methods used but understand them.
    Why?
    If good could come from bad, the corrupt would be punished here
    instead of lying, hiding, and blaming and worst of all pretending, pretending to be good cops.
    Change to this police force and probably many across the country should be demanded
    in the wake of this but instead we will focus one one man's revenge cause it's so much easier.
    Why feel his pain at all? Or listen to what he wanted us to do.


    This isn't a stand alone event either, business as usual in the LAPD.
  • pandora wrote:
    Some people see only black and white when in the deep gray is where understanding lies.
    Must I always say I don't condone the methods used but understand them.
    Why?
    If good could come from bad, the corrupt would be punished here
    instead of lying, hiding, and blaming and worst of all pretending, pretending to be good cops.
    Change to this police force and probably many across the country should be demanded
    in the wake of this but instead we will focus one one man's revenge cause it's so much easier.
    Why feel his pain at all? Or listen to what he wanted us to do.

    he could have blown the whistle. he didn't need to shoot innocent people. insinuating that this will all be worth it if it makes the corruption stop is sick.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    To understand though not condone him we must try to feel him.
    He was a man of honor, apart of a brotherhood, one he trusted as being good.
    He was a soldier, a hero. His capacity for doing good was huge. He saw his life as being good.
    Years, a lifetime of good. He was proud of himself and what he chose to do with his life.
    Doing good was his life. No one nothing could change his right to wrong.
    Ironically in the end they would.

    Then he was betrayed, stripped of honor, called a liar, though he was truthful.
    His disappointment in his fellowman was unbearable.
    He watched his life crumble to nothing and the liars, the abusers, the traitors go on unpunished.
    His frustration took over. His powerful anger. His last sense of justice, that basic justice
    was his answer.

    He knew he had to let the world know, no one listened. So he made us. Was what he did right,
    no of course not,was he worth a fragment of understanding, at least from me he was.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.
    Wow.... I can't believe you're defending him ... I don't know why I'm surprised, but I still am.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    pandora wrote:
    Some people see only black and white when in the deep gray is where understanding lies.
    Must I always say I don't condone the methods used but understand them.
    Why?
    If good could come from bad, the corrupt would be punished here
    instead of lying, hiding, and blaming and worst of all pretending, pretending to be good cops.
    Change to this police force and probably many across the country should be demanded
    in the wake of this but instead we will focus one one man's revenge cause it's so much easier.
    Why feel his pain at all? Or listen to what he wanted us to do.
    This isn't intended to be rude, but who asked you to clarify whether or not you condone his actions?

    Of course all should be done to limit or possibly eliminate the big blue meanies. Gotta feeling some of that will come to pass.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I'm thinking the people he killed are far from innocent in his eyes after being railroaded for doing what was right in the first place. Every cop that turns a blind eye, stands with corruption
    or abuse of power is guilty. Anyone who accepts this.
    It's going to take the good in the bunch to stand up and stop this.

    10 cops arrested here in metro Atl for corruption a couple days ago. 10 right :? ha!
    probably a drip in the big bucket.
    Nothing to do with how they treat our citizens, which is often in question,
    but for being on the take with drug dealers.

    Trickle down now... all those that were busted and jailed rightfully by these 10 involved,
    will get new trails and most likely walk. :wtf: At whose expensive?
    Cops must be required to be clean, to be fair, to uphold the law otherwise they are no good to us.

    Dorner's life was ruined by corruption, so much so he had to fight back
    and get this message out.

    Walk a mile.
    Wow.... I can't believe you're defending him ... I don't know why I'm surprised, but I still am.
    i am not surprised at all.

    people find ways to defend the indefensible all the time. personally i can't defend a multiple murderer, no matter what they believe that their justification is. especially if he killed relatives of people that he had an issue with.

    even the fucking mob keeps the family out of it.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    his beef is with the lapd

    so, he kills the daughter of his lawyer, a riverside county deputy and a san bernardino county deputy...for those of you that aren't aware (of anything) those aren't los angeles police department officers...so his vendetta against the lapd is pretty toothless
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