and since most of us know how this thread is going to end, i'm gonna bow out now before it starts to feel like groundhog day again...
Ned? Ned Ryerson? I missed you
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Im not sure how you can say that you can feel him or understand him, and others are not.
Cause I haven't heard much understanding have you? Awful lot of ugly words, though.
And corrupt police do very bad things Jonny and continue to above the law.
I personally think I try to understand his motives as best I can, that doesnt mean I am going to sit here and kinda justify why he did what he did though. We all dont have to claim that we tried to understand him. Most of us have, I believe.. It doesnt mean people didnt try to understand him just because they say ugly things. Ultimately, what Dorner did was ugly and terrible, and it deserves ugly commentary and criticism, and it FAR outweighed the ugliness that is a corrupt police force. Im amazed that you said they were the same. I think everyone here tries to understand his motives and are sickened by his decisions on how to handle it, plain and simple..
AGAIN, yes, he was treated badly, got the short end of the stick. It ends there though.. his reactions and decisions to follow were disastrous, monstrous, and selfish. A murdering spree for godsake!
Yes, of course there are corrupt police. The governemtn is corrupt too, does that mean that there is any right in blowing up a building in OKC?
I agree with you Jonny and have said repeatedly what he did was wrong.
I still understand why he did it.
It is not justifying or defending or condoning plain and simple, I understand what he did.
His motives, his mind, and for me what he did does not outweigh the ugliness that happens
everyday to innocent people by corruption in our police force or government.
Its just a different ugly. One he was trying to fight against.
Exactly and you choose to not understand what brought a good man to do this. Your choice.
Did you know him? It seems like you knew him really well, to have such an understanding of what went on in his head.
Sort of do you?
You don't know him at all. You've created some idea of him in your own head - that isn't the same thing.
What it comes down to, at any rate, is that you are trying to justify his actions, while every other sane person in North America believes that his actions were unjustifiable, no matter what he went through (and let's face it, many many many people have been through MUCH worse than him and did not feel that going on a killing spree was the only way to handle it). Anyway, you have NO clue where his mind was. And it really doesn't matter. Because no matter what happened to him, or what pissed him off, his actions were NOT justifiable or understandable. It was not a sane response to the situation, and he certainly could have done something differently. He could have gone to the media as a whistleblower against the LAPD. That would have got him LOTS of attention, and would have spared all the death, including his own.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
STOP with the getting personal with each other. If someone posts an opinion you don't like, you can respond to it or ignore it. That's all. It's just an opinion on a message board. If it's someone you NEVER agree with, put them on that Ignore/Foe list and don't read them. People are going to be read-only if they can't do this.
Enough already. Some of you have no problem ignoring us so you can do it if you try. If you don't do it, you''ll be read-only.
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Ned? Ned Ryerson? I missed you
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I still understand why he did it.
It is not justifying or defending or condoning plain and simple, I understand what he did.
His motives, his mind, and for me what he did does not outweigh the ugliness that happens
everyday to innocent people by corruption in our police force or government.
Its just a different ugly. One he was trying to fight against.
What it comes down to, at any rate, is that you are trying to justify his actions, while every other sane person in North America believes that his actions were unjustifiable, no matter what he went through (and let's face it, many many many people have been through MUCH worse than him and did not feel that going on a killing spree was the only way to handle it). Anyway, you have NO clue where his mind was. And it really doesn't matter. Because no matter what happened to him, or what pissed him off, his actions were NOT justifiable or understandable. It was not a sane response to the situation, and he certainly could have done something differently. He could have gone to the media as a whistleblower against the LAPD. That would have got him LOTS of attention, and would have spared all the death, including his own.
I'm not going to reopen this.
STOP with the getting personal with each other. If someone posts an opinion you don't like, you can respond to it or ignore it. That's all. It's just an opinion on a message board. If it's someone you NEVER agree with, put them on that Ignore/Foe list and don't read them. People are going to be read-only if they can't do this.
Enough already. Some of you have no problem ignoring us so you can do it if you try. If you don't do it, you''ll be read-only.