Why our "mayor" was on the local news this morning, I have no idea.
Why Charlie Sheen had to toss in his two cents because somehow this dipshit made his way into the manifesto, I don't know. "hey, call me".
Hearty "fuck you's" to Messrs. Villlar and Sheen. You both are smarmy, attention-grabbing slimeballs.
This is the kind of shit the media and attention grabbers jump all over. It's an important subject for those close the the situation. It's 99% entertainment (in a twisted sense) for the rest of the world.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
the crimes that dorner committed happened in irvine and riverside yet the LAPD is offering a reward...frankly, they're scared shitless as to what this guy can do to them and will do anything to silence him
the crimes that dorner committed happened in irvine and riverside yet the LAPD is offering a reward...frankly, they're scared shitless as to what this guy can do to them and will do anything to silence him
Honestly, I think he's got dirt on corruption within the department. Kinda makes sense in light of them going stormtrooper over the truck with the mother and daughter.
Can't say I'm rooting for him after his taking of lives of folks who were just going about their lives...but I sense there's much more to this situation, and it's a real fucking shame that the life of someone with so much heart and potential is now and forever fucked.
the crimes that dorner committed happened in irvine and riverside yet the LAPD is offering a reward...frankly, they're scared shitless as to what this guy can do to them and will do anything to silence him
Honestly, I think he's got dirt on corruption within the department. Kinda makes sense in light of them going stormtrooper over the truck with the mother and daughter.
Can't say I'm rooting for him after his taking of lives of folks who were just going about their lives...but I sense there's much more to this situation, and it's a real fucking shame that the life of someone with so much heart and potential is now and forever fucked.
yeah, i in no way condone his tactics...killing innocent people and targeting any police officer is fucked up
but the lapd is and has been one of the most corrupt organizations for well over 60 years...and i doubt with this it will really change
A scary situation...
A former cop... with a military background... trainned in use of military weapons... in possession of serious firepower... understands police tactical responses... threatens like a terrorist... will not take on the police force head on... will deliver his kills in ambush attacks... targets officer's families... if desperate, will not let you live to become a witness.
He knows how police work... how they repond. He knows they will spend 3 days scouring the mountain resort town of Big Bear in a methodical, time consuming door to door search... while he makes his get away and heads to who knows where. He knows the police will respond to each citizen call... and he know citizens are idiots who will report a sighting of him shopping at the Home Depot for bathroom faucets. Why the fuck would he be shopping for a faucet?
He is going to bankrupt police forces who are forced to remain at a heightened alert status... billing over-time ours. A basic terrorist tactic... play the long game and let them spend their way to the poor house.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Time for the Feds to take on the LAPD, investigate the claims, expose
and punish those who drove this man to do this.
The American public does not want corrupt cops. Who that hurts is us.
The mistake shooting of the 2 ladies delivering papers happened right down the street from my house. We didn't get our paper that morning :fp: The media labled his manifesto "disturbing" but there's really nothing disturbing about it besides his death threats ofcourse. Its something were all probably thinking anyway.
seriously. a million bucks for info on this guy. they badly want to find him.
if they find him they are going to kill him. they are not going to allow him to testify at his trial. he won't even get a trial. he will be sumarily executed. just watch...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Time for the Feds to take on the LAPD, investigate the claims, expose
and punish those who drove this man to do this.
The American public does not want corrupt cops. Who that hurts is us.
The Feds are corrupt also....
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
My sister wrote this am , she is out that way and said the latest was he might be dead?
Car broke down and died from hypothermia- cold weather, who's falling for that? Not she, not I.
I think he is very prepared. She thought maybe another case like DB Cooper.
If that means disappears and no one else is hurt I'm all for that.
Have you guys actually read/skimmed the manifesto?
After all this talk/hubbub, I was expecting major info, something like Iran-Contra / Mena Airport or at least on par with Freeway Ricky Ross and his CIA crack and backing. but it's nothing. a bunch of trivial shit. Racism, abusive arrest allegations, and an organization where cops who know and are friends with other cops prevent their friends from receiving disciplinary action. I'm not saying its nothing, but its nothing crazy, and certainly nothing that would make them want to shoot this guy to keep him from a trial (not like Oswald, anyhow).
It's just a long dumb rambling letter, with grammar issues, a lot of babble about "my name", a lot of specific threats in cop jargon and military speak and, towards the end, a lot of kissing up to political and television figures that quickly helps you dismiss the notion (if for some reason you hadn't already) that this guy is some sort of anti-system renegade hero.
He's just a poor shmuck goodie goodie who pushed the wrong buttons at the force and lost it.
He's pro Obama, pro Hillary, pro George W Bush, pro Feinstein, pro Chris Wallace, Pro Piers Morgan, very very clearly and specifically pro gun legislation/AWB, for some reason anti-Fareed Zakaraia, and then pro Anthony Bourdain and The Hangover Three.
Again, who gives a fuck what this guy might say in court?
Just a nutter whose cheese slid.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I haven't read it on purpose. I know he was a good guy who was shit on and lost his job.
Now there's a scenario many can relate to.
Just some aren't going to take it laying down anymore and some watching will agree with that.
I don't think we should be so accepting of corruption in our forces or our government.
Like "oh there's nothing we can do about it". Sometimes they have to pay for what they do
just like the little guys. This guy paid for doing nothing but being honest and going up against
corruption...
Now the shoes on the crooked foot, not feeling sorry here for the corrupt, only the innocent.
I haven't read it on purpose. I know he was a good guy who was shit on and lost his job.
Now there's a scenario many can relate to.
Just some aren't going to take it laying down anymore and some watching will agree with that.
I don't think we should be so accepting of corruption in our forces or our government.
Like "oh there's nothing we can do about it". Sometimes they have to pay for what they do
just like the little guys. This guy paid for doing nothing but being honest and going up against
corruption...
Now the shoes on the crooked foot, not feeling sorry here for the corrupt, only the innocent.
If you would read the stupid thing you would realize that he isn't outing any corruption.
He is talking about a cop that kicked a schizophrenic arrestee and then lied about it. He mentions two members of a justice panel review board that were former patrol partners or captains of said kicking cop, whom he tried to get removed from the panel for conflict of interest but could not. They ruled against him and for their kicking friend.
He talks about another incident where the same kicking cop gave an old lady involved in a landlord dispute a severe Indian burn.
Then he talks for a while about the time he was in a van full f white cops and one of them called an arrestee a "nigger". He couldn't fully hear it. Then the cop said it again, at which point he jumped over his seat and strangled the cop. He then whines about how everyone else in the car lied when reports were filed on the incident and said they heard nothing. The cop who was strangled filed his own report against him for strangling him, and then he spends a few sentences talking about how instead of strangling him he should have put a fucking gun into his head.
That's about it.
I GUESS you could call that "corruption" but it is pretty fucking petty.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Saying that the police won't actually use CPR to save someone's life and instead take cell phone pictures to entertain their friends on the force and so they can raise their days of sitting in the office filling out paperwork and boost overtime... that's not exactly "trivial."
There are a bunch of things in that manifesto that are pretty serious allegations if they're true.
While it's not a secret that the police won't take kindly to whistle-blowers, his manifesto seems to lay out that it's not just the Blue Curtain of cops protecting cops but a system that goes far beyond that to lawyers, independent watch dogs and all the way to the top.
Now... is it all true? No idea. But the story sure has gotten our attention.
This guy's never going to have a trial - he'll either kill himself (if he hasn't already), or he'll be taken out just like *that*...similar to how the police shot the hell out of the newspaper ladies' truck without knowing who the fuck was in there.
They claim the $1M reward isn't about vigilantism, but really...isn't it?
I haven't read it on purpose. I know he was a good guy who was shit on and lost his job.
Now there's a scenario many can relate to.
Just some aren't going to take it laying down anymore and some watching will agree with that.
I don't think we should be so accepting of corruption in our forces or our government.
Like "oh there's nothing we can do about it". Sometimes they have to pay for what they do
just like the little guys. This guy paid for doing nothing but being honest and going up against
corruption...
Now the shoes on the crooked foot, not feeling sorry here for the corrupt, only the innocent.
If you would read the stupid thing you would realize that he isn't outing any corruption.
He is talking about a cop that kicked a schizophrenic arrestee and then lied about it. He mentions two members of a justice panel review board that were former patrol partners or captains of said kicking cop, whom he tried to get removed from the panel for conflict of interest but could not. They ruled against him and for their kicking friend.
He talks about another incident where the same kicking cop gave an old lady involved in a landlord dispute a severe Indian burn.
Then he talks for a while about the time he was in a van full f white cops and one of them called an arrestee a "nigger". He couldn't fully hear it. Then the cop said it again, at which point he jumped over his seat and strangled the cop. He then whines about how everyone else in the car lied when reports were filed on the incident and said they heard nothing. The cop who was strangled filed his own report against him for strangling him, and then he spends a few sentences talking about how instead of strangling him he should have put a fucking gun into his head.
That's about it.
I GUESS you could call that "corruption" but it is pretty fucking petty.
I super admire you and your opinion. This is the corruption he experienced,
I think we can be sure there is much worse out there.
Those things he spoke out about, stood up against is abuse of power, force,
against regular people. Dorner knew right from wrong. He choose to do the right thing.
He lost his job because of it. I think that is very serious to be wrongly punished.
That kicking cop did he lose his job too or is he out there still abusing his power?
The others that stood up for his abuse what message does that send to cops and citizens?
It might seem petty in the huge realm of things but it wasn't in Dorner's life nor I bet in the lives
of the victims of the cops. And now it's not petty in the lives of the corrupt police either.
Got to start somewhere with change.
per LA Times: gun battle occurred with fish and game authorities after Dorner allegedly tried to burglarize a home (Big Bear) and steal a car. Dorner’s condition was not clear.
LA news stations have helicopters circling the area. Bet on them showing something they shouldn't on live TV
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can you guys send a link about him being shot at cause i can't find it anywhere.
On cnn the only report they have is that they are chasing a pick-up truck
yahoo has breaking news at the top of their site with a link that just says that it is confirmed that he exchanged fire with police. it was a one or two sentence news story. kinda pointless for them to post without more details...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Why our "mayor" was on the local news this morning, I have no idea.
Why Charlie Sheen had to toss in his two cents because somehow this dipshit made his way into the manifesto, I don't know. "hey, call me".
Hearty "fuck you's" to Messrs. Villlar and Sheen. You both are smarmy, attention-grabbing slimeballs.
This is the kind of shit the media and attention grabbers jump all over. It's an important subject for those close the the situation. It's 99% entertainment (in a twisted sense) for the rest of the world.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-1 ... er-manhunt
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Can't say I'm rooting for him after his taking of lives of folks who were just going about their lives...but I sense there's much more to this situation, and it's a real fucking shame that the life of someone with so much heart and potential is now and forever fucked.
yeah, i in no way condone his tactics...killing innocent people and targeting any police officer is fucked up
but the lapd is and has been one of the most corrupt organizations for well over 60 years...and i doubt with this it will really change
A former cop... with a military background... trainned in use of military weapons... in possession of serious firepower... understands police tactical responses... threatens like a terrorist... will not take on the police force head on... will deliver his kills in ambush attacks... targets officer's families... if desperate, will not let you live to become a witness.
He knows how police work... how they repond. He knows they will spend 3 days scouring the mountain resort town of Big Bear in a methodical, time consuming door to door search... while he makes his get away and heads to who knows where. He knows the police will respond to each citizen call... and he know citizens are idiots who will report a sighting of him shopping at the Home Depot for bathroom faucets. Why the fuck would he be shopping for a faucet?
He is going to bankrupt police forces who are forced to remain at a heightened alert status... billing over-time ours. A basic terrorist tactic... play the long game and let them spend their way to the poor house.
Hail, Hail!!!
and punish those who drove this man to do this.
The American public does not want corrupt cops. Who that hurts is us.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
if they find him they are going to kill him. they are not going to allow him to testify at his trial. he won't even get a trial. he will be sumarily executed. just watch...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
A million bucks, ey? Hmmmm :think: :think:
The Feds are corrupt also....
And yes... if even half the things in his manifesto are true... that's a pretty big problem. And it's making us talk. That's good.
I'm not defending him and what he did was wrong... there would have been MANY better ways to expose this.
But we're talking.
Car broke down and died from hypothermia- cold weather, who's falling for that? Not she, not I.
I think he is very prepared. She thought maybe another case like DB Cooper.
If that means disappears and no one else is hurt I'm all for that.
After all this talk/hubbub, I was expecting major info, something like Iran-Contra / Mena Airport or at least on par with Freeway Ricky Ross and his CIA crack and backing. but it's nothing. a bunch of trivial shit. Racism, abusive arrest allegations, and an organization where cops who know and are friends with other cops prevent their friends from receiving disciplinary action. I'm not saying its nothing, but its nothing crazy, and certainly nothing that would make them want to shoot this guy to keep him from a trial (not like Oswald, anyhow).
It's just a long dumb rambling letter, with grammar issues, a lot of babble about "my name", a lot of specific threats in cop jargon and military speak and, towards the end, a lot of kissing up to political and television figures that quickly helps you dismiss the notion (if for some reason you hadn't already) that this guy is some sort of anti-system renegade hero.
He's just a poor shmuck goodie goodie who pushed the wrong buttons at the force and lost it.
He's pro Obama, pro Hillary, pro George W Bush, pro Feinstein, pro Chris Wallace, Pro Piers Morgan, very very clearly and specifically pro gun legislation/AWB, for some reason anti-Fareed Zakaraia, and then pro Anthony Bourdain and The Hangover Three.
Again, who gives a fuck what this guy might say in court?
Just a nutter whose cheese slid.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Now there's a scenario many can relate to.
Just some aren't going to take it laying down anymore and some watching will agree with that.
I don't think we should be so accepting of corruption in our forces or our government.
Like "oh there's nothing we can do about it". Sometimes they have to pay for what they do
just like the little guys. This guy paid for doing nothing but being honest and going up against
corruption...
Now the shoes on the crooked foot, not feeling sorry here for the corrupt, only the innocent.
He is talking about a cop that kicked a schizophrenic arrestee and then lied about it. He mentions two members of a justice panel review board that were former patrol partners or captains of said kicking cop, whom he tried to get removed from the panel for conflict of interest but could not. They ruled against him and for their kicking friend.
He talks about another incident where the same kicking cop gave an old lady involved in a landlord dispute a severe Indian burn.
Then he talks for a while about the time he was in a van full f white cops and one of them called an arrestee a "nigger". He couldn't fully hear it. Then the cop said it again, at which point he jumped over his seat and strangled the cop. He then whines about how everyone else in the car lied when reports were filed on the incident and said they heard nothing. The cop who was strangled filed his own report against him for strangling him, and then he spends a few sentences talking about how instead of strangling him he should have put a fucking gun into his head.
That's about it.
I GUESS you could call that "corruption" but it is pretty fucking petty.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Saying that the police won't actually use CPR to save someone's life and instead take cell phone pictures to entertain their friends on the force and so they can raise their days of sitting in the office filling out paperwork and boost overtime... that's not exactly "trivial."
There are a bunch of things in that manifesto that are pretty serious allegations if they're true.
While it's not a secret that the police won't take kindly to whistle-blowers, his manifesto seems to lay out that it's not just the Blue Curtain of cops protecting cops but a system that goes far beyond that to lawyers, independent watch dogs and all the way to the top.
Now... is it all true? No idea. But the story sure has gotten our attention.
They claim the $1M reward isn't about vigilantism, but really...isn't it?
I think we can be sure there is much worse out there.
Those things he spoke out about, stood up against is abuse of power, force,
against regular people. Dorner knew right from wrong. He choose to do the right thing.
He lost his job because of it. I think that is very serious to be wrongly punished.
That kicking cop did he lose his job too or is he out there still abusing his power?
The others that stood up for his abuse what message does that send to cops and citizens?
It might seem petty in the huge realm of things but it wasn't in Dorner's life nor I bet in the lives
of the victims of the cops. And now it's not petty in the lives of the corrupt police either.
Got to start somewhere with change.
2 officers have been shot...condition unknown
Crazy fucker.
there is no word on his condition. maybe he is wounded now? but if he were wouldn't there be a blood trail or something?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
On cnn the only report they have is that they are chasing a pick-up truck
http://ktla.com/live/#axzz2KilAFOsX
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Chase ...
Big Bear Chase ...
BIG BEAR CHASE ME!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZDxXivCybk