Ex Cop in LA rampage......

elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,416
edited February 2013 in A Moving Train
What do you guys think about this guy.........?
Kicked off the force for testifying against another cop for abuse.....?

This could get Rambo on LA....
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  • Is the rampage happening now? Is that why there is no link?

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • Is the rampage happening now? Is that why there is no link?

    Sorry I assumed most people heard this story by now...... He's killed several people and police have killed two innocent civilians by mistaken identity. Been going on for several days now.....

    http://www.latimes.com/
  • http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/ ... 01731.html

    LOS ANGELES, Calif. - Law enforcement officials continued a massive manhunt with three states and Mexico on alert Friday in search of a fired police officer who threatened to bring "warfare" to the Los Angeles Police Department and went on a shooting rampage that left a policeman and two others dead.

    The search Thursday for Christopher Dorner led hair-trigger officers to mistakenly shoot at innocent citizens and forced police to guard their own.


    As darkness fell, the search that had extended across California from the U.S.-Mexico border through Nevada, from suburban streets to military bases, had narrowed in on a cold, snowy mountain 80 miles (130 kilometres) east of Los Angeles where Dorner's burned truck was found.

    San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said 125 officers were going door to door and attempting to track the suspect, and that a SWAT team was providing added security to those in the community. Schools were put on lockdown while investigators examined the vehicle and spread out across the area.

    "He could be anywhere at this point, and that's why we're searching door to door," McMahon said, adding that the manhunt would continue "as long as we can." A snow storm was expected in the region with temperatures dipping into the teens overnight.

    Said LAPD Assistant Chief Michel Moore: "This complex and violent investigation has led to this mountain."

    The pickup was to be processed at a crime lab Thursday evening and examined by investigators from multiple agencies.

    Throughout the day, thousands of heavily armed officers patrolled highways throughout Southern California, while some stood guard outside the homes of people police say Dorner vowed to attack in a rant posted online. Electronic billboards, which usually alert motorists about the commute, urged them to call emergency services if they saw him.

    "I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare" to Los Angeles Police Department officers, on or off duty, said the manifesto. It also asserted: "Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. That's what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name."

    Dorner, 33, had several weapons including an assault rifle, said police Chief Charlie Beck, who urged him to surrender at a news conference held amid heightened security in an underground room at police headquarters.

    "Of course he knows what he's doing; we trained him. He was also a member of the Armed Forces," he said. "It is extremely worrisome and scary."

    The nearly 10,000-member LAPD dispatched officers to protect more than 40 potential targets, including police officers and their families. The department also pulled officers from motorcycle duty, fearing they would make for easy targets.

    "I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours," the manifesto said.

    At one point, officers guarding one location mistakenly opened fire on a pickup truck, believing it matched the description of Dorner's dark-colored 2005 Nissan Titan. Two occupants were injured.

    The chief said there had been a "night of extreme tragedy in the Los Angeles area" and that the department was taking measures to ensure the safety of officers.

    The search for Dorner, who was fired from the LAPD in 2008 for making false statements, began after he was linked to a weekend killing in which one of the victims was the daughter of a former police captain who had represented him during his disciplinary hearing. Thursday was the anniversary of his first day on the job at the department eight years ago.

    Monica Quan and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, were found shot in their car at a parking structure at their condominium on Sunday in Irvine. Quan, 28, was an assistant women's basketball coach at Cal State Fullerton. Lawrence, 27, was a public safety officer at the University of Southern California.

    Police said Dorner implicated himself in the couple's killings in the manifesto posted on Facebook. They believe he was the one who wrote it because there were details in it only he would know.

    In the post, Dorner wrote that he knew he would be vilified by the LAPD and the news media, but that "unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."

    Dorner was with the LAPD from 2005 until 2008.

    According to documents from a court of appeals hearing, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans. Dorner said that in the course of an arrest, Evans kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.

    Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned home on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer.

    Quan's father, a former LAPD captain who became a lawyer in retirement, represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, a tribunal that ruled against Dorner, police said. Randal Quan retired in 2002 and later served as chief of police at Cal Poly Pomona before he started practicing law. Quan did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

    Dorner said in his online rant that after his dismissal that he lost everything, including his relationships with his mother, sister and close friends.

    "Self-preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago," the manifesto said. "I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that."

    Dorner said he would use all of his training to avoid capture and track his targets.

    Dorner also had served in the Naval Reserves, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He was assigned to a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units, according to military records, and took a leave from the LAPD and deployed to Bahrain in 2006 and 2007.

    "I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordinance and survival training I've been given," the manifesto read. "You have misjudged a sleeping giant."

    Earlier Thursday, two LAPD officers en route to provide security to one of Dorner's possible targets, were flagged down by a resident at a gas station in Corona who reporting seeing the suspect. The officers then followed a pickup truck until it stopped. The driver, believed to be Dorner, got out and fired a rifle, police said. A bullet grazed an officer's head.

    Later, two officers on routine patrol in neighbouring Riverside were ambushed at a stoplight by a motorist who drove up next to them and opened fire with a rifle. One died and the other was seriously wounded but was expected to survive, Riverside police Chief Sergio Diaz said.

    Diaz said news organizations should withhold the officers' names because the suspect had made clear that he considers police and their families "fair game."

    The hunt for Dorner also led to two errant shootings in the pre-dawn darkness Thursday.

    LAPD officers guarding a target named in the manifesto shot and wounded two women in suburban Torrance who were in a pickup truck, authorities said. Beck said one woman was in stable condition with two gunshot wounds and the other was being released after treatment.

    "Tragically we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers," Beck said.

    Minutes later, Torrance officers responding to a report of gunshots encountered a dark pickup matching the description of Dorner's, police said. A collision occurred and the officers fired on the pickup. The unidentified driver was not hit and it turned out not to be the suspect vehicle, they said.

    In San Diego, where police say Dorner tied up an elderly man and unsuccessfully tried to steal his boat Wednesday night, Naval Base Point Loma was locked down Thursday after a Navy worker reported seeing someone who resembled Dorner.

    Navy Cmdr. Brad Fagan said officials believe Dorner had checked into a base hotel on Tuesday and left the next day without checking out. Numerous agencies guarded the base on Thursday. Fagan said Dorner was honourably discharged and that his last day in the Navy was last Friday.

    Nevada authorities also joined the search, because Dorner owns a house 9 miles (14.5 kilometres) from the Las Vegas Strip, according to authorities and property records.
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  • Is the rampage happening now? Is that why there is no link?

    Sorry I assumed most people heard this story by now...... He's killed several people and police have killed two innocent civilians by mistaken identity. Been going on for several days now.....

    http://www.latimes.com/

    he's killed one cop and two people so far. the cops who shot on the innocent civilians did not kill them. they were injured only.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    wow ... right out of the movies ... just saw end of watch and there is a character in the movie that says the LAPD will screw you one day (to another cop) ... kinda chilling seeing this now ... doesn't help that all the cops are super trigger happy ... i mean spraying a truck with bullets without identifying if it's the right person is absurd ... even if he was close to a potential victim ...
  • pj1981pj1981 Posts: 288
    His history, his past friends, family, loved ones, say he was a stellar person.
    Thats all I could say when I saw pictures, he looks like such a nice guy.

    His beef is with the corrupt force who fired him for his honesty. The lawyer
    who was supposed to protect him he took revenge on by killing his wife.
    Sometimes people react when they get shit on, pushed so far, nothing to live for but revenge.
    Sad all around. He wants his name cleared but chief says no way. Get that no way.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    What's fucked up is that before all of this went down, he was a good guy - and from what I read, was trying to do right as a human being against corruption on the force.

    The parts of his manifesto that I've read/heard reflect a very intelligent and well-spoken man who holds his word and reputation above all else. Having that taken from him - whether rightfully so or not - seems to have set off this simmer and subsequent explosion of (his version of) retribution.

    I wish that he hadn't taken innocent lives in his quest to right his name.

    I also wish the police would contain their hardon for "getting him" as much as possible, and make sure they know who the fuck they're shooting.
  • Is the rampage happening now? Is that why there is no link?

    Sorry I assumed most people heard this story by now...... He's killed several people and police have killed two innocent civilians by mistaken identity. Been going on for several days now.....

    http://www.latimes.com/


    Thanks for the link. I stay away from the news as it sounds the same day in and day out. So I'm behind on this story.

    Edit: One word. Snapped!

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    polaris_x wrote:
    wow ... right out of the movies ... just saw end of watch and there is a character in the movie that says the LAPD will screw you one day (to another cop) ... kinda chilling seeing this now ...

    Did you like the movie? I Thought it was really good. (saw it a month ago)
  • hedonist wrote:
    What's fucked up is that before all of this went down, he was a good guy - and from what I read, was trying to do right as a human being against corruption on the force.

    The parts of his manifesto that I've read/heard reflect a very intelligent and well-spoken man who holds his word and reputation above all else. Having that taken from him - whether rightfully so or not - seems to have set off this simmer and subsequent explosion of (his version of) retribution.

    I wish that he hadn't taken innocent lives in his quest to right his name.

    I also wish the police would contain their hardon for "getting him" as much as possible, and make sure they know who the fuck they're shooting.

    I think everyone is a good person deep down............but all bets are off when pushed to the brink.....
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Idris wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    wow ... right out of the movies ... just saw end of watch and there is a character in the movie that says the LAPD will screw you one day (to another cop) ... kinda chilling seeing this now ...

    Did you like the movie? I Thought it was really good. (saw it a month ago)

    actually ... i watched it on the plane ... started de-planing right at the end so i missed the very end after the cops finally arrive ... :lol: ... gonna have to fast forward to it next time ...

    but it's eery how it was slightly foreshadowed unless it's systemic there ...
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    this dude is a combination of michael douglas in falling down and rambo

    his truck was found burning at big bear and that is where they are searching...futility i say because he probably had a car there and took off in that car after he lit his truck on fire

    so now it's a waiting game to see where he turns up next which will probably be another dead cop

    i skimmed his manifesto and if even a quarter of it is true, the lapd is still a fucked up organization...but killing random cops isn't the answer
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    norm wrote:
    this dude is a combination of michael douglas in falling down and rambo

    his truck was found burning at big bear and that is where they are searching...futility i say because he probably had a car there and took off in that car after he lit his truck on fire

    so now it's a waiting game to see where he turns up next which will probably be another dead cop

    i skimmed his manifesto and if even a quarter of it is true, the lapd is still a fucked up organization...but killing random cops isn't the answer
    That's funny - we made the same Falling Down/Rambo parallel this morning.

    Even with the snowstorm in Big Bear, it'd be damn tough for a dude his size to make a clean escape (plus they were searching every car in and out of the area).

    I just don't think he'll be found alive, whether by his own hand or by those of his former "brothers".
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Reports are that two cops shot a 71 year old lady and her daughter because they were driving a truck similar to the suspect.

    :(

    http://www.businessinsider.com/lapd-officers-hunting-dorner-shot-women-2013-2
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    edited February 2013
    Jason P wrote:
    Reports are that two cops shot a 71 year old lady and her daughter because they were driving a truck similar to the suspect.

    :(

    http://www.businessinsider.com/lapd-officers-hunting-dorner-shot-women-2013-2

    the lapd were looking for a grey nissan titan

    torrance.jpg

    i'm pretty sure that's an electric blue toyota tacoma :? :roll:
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    I hope the cops that fired on the innocents get thrown in prison and the LAPD gets sued for millions.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    hedonist wrote:
    Even with the snowstorm in Big Bear, it'd be damn tough for a dude his size to make a clean escape (plus they were searching every car in and out of the area).

    but did they know he was up there before seeing the smoke from the burning car? he spent what, 3 years planning this? can't believe this wasn't part of the plan to distract the cops by searching where he isn't at
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    It's pretty amazing the one lady only had four stitches. Looks like the fired multiple magazines into the back of that truck.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    norm wrote:
    this dude is a combination of michael douglas in falling down and rambo

    his truck was found burning at big bear and that is where they are searching...futility i say because he probably had a car there and took off in that car after he lit his truck on fire

    so now it's a waiting game to see where he turns up next which will probably be another dead cop

    i skimmed his manifesto and if even a quarter of it is true, the lapd is still a fucked up organization...but killing random cops isn't the answer

    well ... if reports that he was trying to steal a boat and flee are true ... he is likely long gone ... thing is - he's a hard guy to just blend in ... not sure where he can go ...

    it's crazy tho because - it's clear that the lapd is corrupt but if they fix it because of this ... it sort of validates this guy's mo ...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    norm wrote:
    the lapd were looking for a grey nissan titan

    torrance.jpg

    i'm pretty sure that's an elkectric blue toyota tacoma :? :roll:

    not to excuse these guys as what they did is ridiculous ... but it was 5:20 am so the colour of the truck may not have been as evident ...
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    norm wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Even with the snowstorm in Big Bear, it'd be damn tough for a dude his size to make a clean escape (plus they were searching every car in and out of the area).

    but did they know he was up there before seeing the smoke from the burning car? he spent what, 3 years planning this? can't believe this wasn't part of the plan to distract the cops by searching where he isn't at
    Good point. He's smart and knows their tactics, so you're probably right.

    Jason, I'm amazed, after looking at that truck, that the ladies survived at all. How do they not shout "stop" or "police" or something before firing? At least shine a damn light in the truck to see who's in there.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    polaris_x wrote:
    norm wrote:
    the lapd were looking for a grey nissan titan

    torrance.jpg

    i'm pretty sure that's an elkectric blue toyota tacoma :? :roll:

    not to excuse these guys as what they did is ridiculous ... but it was 5:20 am so the colour of the truck may not have been as evident ...

    :lol::lol: you're not serious, are you? see the the ting sticking out from the drivers side...it's a bright fucking light...turns night into day...unless they were color blind, there's no way one can confuse electric blue from gray
  • norm wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Reports are that two cops shot a 71 year old lady and her daughter because they were driving a truck similar to the suspect.

    :(

    http://www.businessinsider.com/lapd-officers-hunting-dorner-shot-women-2013-2

    the lapd were looking for a grey nissan titan

    torrance.jpg

    i'm pretty sure that's an elkectric blue toyota tacoma :? :roll:


    OOOOOPS, SORRY. (shrug)

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    norm wrote:
    :lol::lol: you're not serious, are you? see the the ting sticking out from the drivers side...it's a bright fucking light...turns night into day...unless they were color blind, there's no way one can confuse electric blue from gray

    hey ... just trying to throw them a bone ... :lol:
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    polaris_x wrote:
    norm wrote:
    :lol::lol: you're not serious, are you? see the the ting sticking out from the drivers side...it's a bright fucking light...turns night into day...unless they were color blind, there's no way one can confuse electric blue from gray

    hey ... just trying to throw them a bone ... :lol:

    :D

    hey, i'm not down on the lapd...majority of them are good people doing a shitty job that i would never do...but seriously, 2 cops unloading their clips into the truck before even seeing who was inside is just fucking ridiculous
  • norm wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    norm wrote:
    :lol::lol: you're not serious, are you? see the the ting sticking out from the drivers side...it's a bright fucking light...turns night into day...unless they were color blind, there's no way one can confuse electric blue from gray

    hey ... just trying to throw them a bone ... :lol:

    :D

    hey, i'm not down on the lapd...majority of them are good people doing a shitty job that i would never do...but seriously, 2 cops unloading their clips into the truck before even seeing who was inside is just fucking ridiculous

    Sorry I just couldn't let a good thing slide on by.....

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    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    They aren't going to catch this guy anytime soon. Huge storm rolling into the mountains where he's allegedly hiding out. I think he has had this planned for a long time. He's leading them on a wild goose chase considering the entire police for of Southern California can't find him.
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  • looks like this dude will be as a needle in a pile of needles.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    norm wrote:
    :D

    hey, i'm not down on the lapd...majority of them are good people doing a shitty job that i would never do...but seriously, 2 cops unloading their clips into the truck before even seeing who was inside is just fucking ridiculous

    yeah ... i wrote that in one of my few posts ...

    i'm kinda surprised this guy is still on the loose ...
  • pj1981pj1981 Posts: 288
    one million dollar reward :wtf:
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