***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2013 Thread***

jamminpearls

and having our hearts broken in september all those years was what made the payoff in 08 that much worthwhile. i know i'm not alone with that thinking.[/quote]

I'd even go back as far as 2001 for this current "stretch" or whatever it can be called. Bowa's first season and it was a huge turnaround (from 65 wins the year before to 85). It was Rollins's first full season with the team as well, and Burrell's second. The seeds were planted.[/quote]
Agreed. It was fun watching this team bloom.[/quote]

good point. i was living in virginia back in 01 so i couldnt watch them as much as i wanted. killed me that it was their first good year since 93 too...

been a good run, boys[/quote]
I sadly agree with the fixer though. I'd trade everyone not named Hamels and Utley.

The Juggler

i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.

why would you not want to trade utley though?

jamminpearls

The Juggler wrote:

i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.

why would you not want to trade utley though?

Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.

The Juggler

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.

why would you not want to trade utley though?

Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.

that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...

utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.

why would you not want to trade utley though?

because he is everything you want in a baseball player.

if someone gives them a ridiculous package they should think about it. I love the guy, so I can't fully endorse trading him.

I would try like hell to package lee with howard, similar to what boston did with gonzalez/crawford last year. Howard is untradeable by himself, so I'd force another team to take him if they want lee. Phils would probably have to eat salary in order to get anything decent in return, but it would be addition by subtraction.

I really miss pat gillick

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.

why would you not want to trade utley though?

Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.

that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...

utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.

scouts (ie, not phillies puppets like salisbury or brookover) project him as a utility guy, not an everyday player. they really don't have any decent position prospects. roman quinn is probably the best one.

jamminpearls

The Juggler wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.

why would you not want to trade utley though?

Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.

that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...

utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.

I read about him also. I'm all for a fire sale sadly. I'd do it now instead of waiting. As Peter Gammons said last week, you'll get more now then at the deadline.

The Juggler

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.

that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...

utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.

I read about him also. I'm all for a fire sale sadly. I'd do it now instead of waiting. As Peter Gammons said last week, you'll get more now then at the deadline.

well they aren't having a fire sale if they're 3 out...



broxton strikes again!

jamminpearls

Haha, Broxton shouldn't be allowed to enter any games against us. Any manager with a clue should know this.

eeriepadave

nice, come back win guys!

The Juggler

eeriepadave wrote:

nice, come back win guys!

so unexpected with chapman out there too. pretty wide range of emotions in the juggler living room towards the end of this game today.

but howard and chooch are having mri's tomorrow.

JK_Livin

jamminpearls wrote:

Haha, Broxton shouldn't be allowed to enter any games against us. Any manager with a clue should know this.

Broxton should've been out of the inning if it wasn't a bad throw by Votto.

The Juggler

jamminpearls

The Juggler wrote:

Darin Ruf needs to be up in the Majors asap. And Freddy Galvis needs to be playing daily.

pjhawks

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

Darin Ruf needs to be up in the Majors asap. And Freddy Galvis needs to be playing daily.

Ruf should definitely be up especially with interleague play coming up and the need for a DH.

4-4 against the Marlins so far this year. that's awful.

The Juggler

i've played legion games before more people than what's at this game.



this franchise is a disgrace to professional sports.

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler wrote:

this franchise is a disgrace to professional sports.

Hey, 2-time world champs...just like us. And it took them a hundred less years to do it.

JK_Livin

Cole must love seeing 15 hits put up for Cloyd.

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

this franchise is a disgrace to professional sports.

Hey, 2-time world champs...just like us. And it took them a hundred less years to do it.

i know. those people don't deserve them.

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

this franchise is a disgrace to professional sports.

Hey, 2-time world champs...just like us. And it took them a hundred less years to do it.

i know. those people don't deserve them.

It's funny because I actually know a guy that's a hardcore Marlins fan. Grew up in Davie, FL (right outside Miami), became a fan the moment they came in the league, was at all 4 home games of the 1997 World Series with his dad (and one of the 2003 WS games). A real fan. And here's a standard joke of his: "I wish I could clone myself and fill this stadium with a bunch of myselves so people would know that there are SOME real Marlins fans." But since cloning isn't available, it's basically just him and a bunch of fairweather bandwagoners.