and having our hearts broken in september all those years was what made the payoff in 08 that much worthwhile. i know i'm not alone with that thinking.[/quote]
I'd even go back as far as 2001 for this current "stretch" or whatever it can be called. Bowa's first season and it was a huge turnaround (from 65 wins the year before to 85). It was Rollins's first full season with the team as well, and Burrell's second. The seeds were planted.[/quote]
Agreed. It was fun watching this team bloom.[/quote]
good point. i was living in virginia back in 01 so i couldnt watch them as much as i wanted. killed me that it was their first good year since 93 too...
been a good run, boys[/quote]
I sadly agree with the fixer though. I'd trade everyone not named Hamels and Utley.
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i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.
i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.
why would you not want to trade utley though?
Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,458
i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.
why would you not want to trade utley though?
Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.
that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...
utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.
i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.
why would you not want to trade utley though?
because he is everything you want in a baseball player.
if someone gives them a ridiculous package they should think about it. I love the guy, so I can't fully endorse trading him.
I would try like hell to package lee with howard, similar to what boston did with gonzalez/crawford last year. Howard is untradeable by himself, so I'd force another team to take him if they want lee. Phils would probably have to eat salary in order to get anything decent in return, but it would be addition by subtraction.
i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.
why would you not want to trade utley though?
Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.
that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...
utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.
scouts (ie, not phillies puppets like salisbury or brookover) project him as a utility guy, not an everyday player. they really don't have any decent position prospects. roman quinn is probably the best one.
i think everyone should be on board with unloading if they are out of it in a month or so.
why would you not want to trade utley though?
Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.
that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...
utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.
I read about him also. I'm all for a fire sale sadly. I'd do it now instead of waiting. As Peter Gammons said last week, you'll get more now then at the deadline.
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Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,458
Because i'd try and resign him to a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd. We have Joseph,Asche and Galvis to replace Young,Rollins and Ruiz. I'd bring up Ruf and see what him and Brown can do. Sadly Utley might bring back the best package other then Lee though. I just don't wanna see Chase in another Uniform.
that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...
utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.
I read about him also. I'm all for a fire sale sadly. I'd do it now instead of waiting. As Peter Gammons said last week, you'll get more now then at the deadline.
well they aren't having a fire sale if they're 3 out...
this franchise is a disgrace to professional sports.
Hey, 2-time world champs...just like us. And it took them a hundred less years to do it.
i know. those people don't deserve them.
It's funny because I actually know a guy that's a hardcore Marlins fan. Grew up in Davie, FL (right outside Miami), became a fan the moment they came in the league, was at all 4 home games of the 1997 World Series with his dad (and one of the 2003 WS games). A real fan. And here's a standard joke of his: "I wish I could clone myself and fill this stadium with a bunch of myselves so people would know that there are SOME real Marlins fans." But since cloning isn't available, it's basically just him and a bunch of fairweather bandwagoners.
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I'd even go back as far as 2001 for this current "stretch" or whatever it can be called. Bowa's first season and it was a huge turnaround (from 65 wins the year before to 85). It was Rollins's first full season with the team as well, and Burrell's second. The seeds were planted.[/quote]
Agreed. It was fun watching this team bloom.[/quote]
good point. i was living in virginia back in 01 so i couldnt watch them as much as i wanted. killed me that it was their first good year since 93 too...
been a good run, boys[/quote]
I sadly agree with the fixer though. I'd trade everyone not named Hamels and Utley.
why would you not want to trade utley though?
that young cesar hernandez is raking the ball though...
utley will probably want 3 years dont you think? he'll probably be hurt for 2 of them.
because he is everything you want in a baseball player.
if someone gives them a ridiculous package they should think about it. I love the guy, so I can't fully endorse trading him.
I would try like hell to package lee with howard, similar to what boston did with gonzalez/crawford last year. Howard is untradeable by himself, so I'd force another team to take him if they want lee. Phils would probably have to eat salary in order to get anything decent in return, but it would be addition by subtraction.
I really miss pat gillick
scouts (ie, not phillies puppets like salisbury or brookover) project him as a utility guy, not an everyday player. they really don't have any decent position prospects. roman quinn is probably the best one.
well they aren't having a fire sale if they're 3 out...
broxton strikes again!
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
so unexpected with chapman out there too. pretty wide range of emotions in the juggler living room towards the end of this game today.
but howard and chooch are having mri's tomorrow.
Broxton should've been out of the inning if it wasn't a bad throw by Votto.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Ruf should definitely be up especially with interleague play coming up and the need for a DH.
4-4 against the Marlins so far this year. that's awful.
this franchise is a disgrace to professional sports.
Hey, 2-time world champs...just like us. And it took them a hundred less years to do it.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
i know. those people don't deserve them.
It's funny because I actually know a guy that's a hardcore Marlins fan. Grew up in Davie, FL (right outside Miami), became a fan the moment they came in the league, was at all 4 home games of the 1997 World Series with his dad (and one of the 2003 WS games). A real fan. And here's a standard joke of his: "I wish I could clone myself and fill this stadium with a bunch of myselves so people would know that there are SOME real Marlins fans." But since cloning isn't available, it's basically just him and a bunch of fairweather bandwagoners.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
hard to believe they're a game behind the nats right now.
well the nats haven't been playing too well lately
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/ ... -be-buyers
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Cole's era is 4.45 so I don't think he should be stewing too much about the offense. 4.45 is not close to being good enough for a #1 starter.
http://deadspin.com/get-a-load-of-this- ... socialflow
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
beat me too it.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... i&c_id=phi
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
his annual trip.