***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2013 Thread***

eeriepadave

pretty good pitching from the rook.

JK_Livin

Pettiboner! JMJ is killing me. You can't have someone that doesn't make contact in front of The Man, but I guess we don't have much of a choice right now.

Someone on twitter called Ruben, Ruin Tomorrow Jr.

Jearlpam0925

Went down Sunday night and last night. It shouldn't be this cold for Christ's sakes.

Pettibone looks decent - throws pretty hard; just don't like his arm motion of coming right over the top - looks like a pitching machine and that motion will be easy for hitters to see the ball.

On a semi-related note - Matt Harvey is going to destroy this division, moreso than Strasburg I think.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Went down Sunday night and last night. It shouldn't be this cold for Christ's sakes.

Pettibone looks decent - throws pretty hard; just don't like his arm motion of coming right over the top - looks like a pitching machine and that motion will be easy for hitters to see the ball.

On a semi-related note - Matt Harvey is going to destroy this division, moreso than Strasburg I think.

how bout what biddle and morgan are doing so far? obviously early, but both look pretty good in reading and lehigh valley...keep it up, young bucks...

JK_Livin

Ugh. So last year Howard kept swinging and missing at everything away. Now he's doing it to inside pitches that are off the plate. I can somewhat understand going after the away pitches because they cross the plate at some point. These inside pitches are never even on the plate and he's still swinging.

Awful at-bats by Jimmy and Chase in the 8th. Is is me or does JMJ guess at every other pitch he sees?

The Fixer

JK_Livin wrote:

Ugh. So last year Howard kept swinging and missing at everything away. Now he's doing it to inside pitches that are off the plate. I can somewhat understand going after the away pitches because they cross the plate at some point. These inside pitches are never even on the plate and he's still swinging.

Awful at-bats by Jimmy and Chase in the 8th. Is is me or does JMJ guess at every other pitch he sees?

Howard is horrendous
Manuel is clueless
Amaro sucks at life

This team stinks. I don't know what Amaro has to do to get himself fired. At this point he's Costanza in the parking lot with the WS trophy.

Check out Schierholtz's numbers for the cubs. And he's one of the best defensive corner OFs in baseball. Amaro dropped him and kept Nix and Mayberry. Such a joke

Worst part is that their roster is old and their farm system is desolate. This team is gonna suck for the next decade. All because of Amaro.

Like I said, the Howard contract was the beginning of the end. Funny to think back to those arguments now.

jamminpearls

The Fixer wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

Ugh. So last year Howard kept swinging and missing at everything away. Now he's doing it to inside pitches that are off the plate. I can somewhat understand going after the away pitches because they cross the plate at some point. These inside pitches are never even on the plate and he's still swinging.

Awful at-bats by Jimmy and Chase in the 8th. Is is me or does JMJ guess at every other pitch he sees?

Howard is horrendous
Manuel is clueless
Amaro sucks at life

This team stinks. I don't know what Amaro has to do to get himself fired. At this point he's Costanza in the parking lot with the WS trophy.

Check out Schierholtz's numbers for the cubs. And he's one of the best defensive corner OFs in baseball. Amaro dropped him and kept Nix and Mayberry. Such a joke

Worst part is that their roster is old and their farm system is desolate. This team is gonna suck for the next decade. All because of Amaro.

Like I said, the Howard contract was the beginning of the end. Funny to think back to those arguments now.

NO ONE disagreed about the contract.

The Fixer

jamminpearls wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

Ugh. So last year Howard kept swinging and missing at everything away. Now he's doing it to inside pitches that are off the plate. I can somewhat understand going after the away pitches because they cross the plate at some point. These inside pitches are never even on the plate and he's still swinging.

Awful at-bats by Jimmy and Chase in the 8th. Is is me or does JMJ guess at every other pitch he sees?

Howard is horrendous
Manuel is clueless
Amaro sucks at life

This team stinks. I don't know what Amaro has to do to get himself fired. At this point he's Costanza in the parking lot with the WS trophy.

Check out Schierholtz's numbers for the cubs. And he's one of the best defensive corner OFs in baseball. Amaro dropped him and kept Nix and Mayberry. Such a joke

Worst part is that their roster is old and their farm system is desolate. This team is gonna suck for the next decade. All because of Amaro.

Like I said, the Howard contract was the beginning of the end. Funny to think back to those arguments now.

NO ONE disagreed about the contract.

no one, except for most of this thread. JP and cliff were the only ones who agreed with me

JK_Livin

It's nice to see Doc coming back, 3 hits in his last 13 innings.

This could be the worst team in baseball with 1st and 3rd no outs.

It's was nice to see both Howard and Utley homer of a lefty.

I know it's only 20 games but I'd like to know how much scouting of Revere was done. Maybe he'll feel more comfortable in the 8 hole once Chooch comes back.

Jearlpam0925

JK_Livin wrote:

It's nice to see Doc coming back, 3 hits in his last 13 innings.

This could be the worst team in baseball with 1st and 3rd no outs.

It's was nice to see both Howard and Utley homer of a lefty.

I know it's only 20 games but I'd like to know how much scouting of Revere was done. Maybe he'll feel more comfortable in the 8 hole once Chooch comes back.

I really don't think Revere is this bad. Dude is pressing big time - I mean, look at that go ahead single he hit on Sunday night. Dude was jacked up about that hit like it was game 7 of the World Series. Dude feels the pressure, I know it. The Twin Cities ain't Philly.

Also, the measuring point for this team is Chooch in the 8th hole. Carlos Ruis should never see the light of day in a lineup beyond the 6th hole. If he's any higher then that just shows how shitty your lineup is - that's where Amaro has really fucked up. I'm just now getting around to giving Amaro a grade. A GM - whether the team is good or bad - first two years can be residuals of the previous GM (Gillick's magic), and really should be judged by their fourth or fifth year...which we are seeing now.


I don't know how paying Schierholt $2.5 M was going to cripple this team. Mayberry should have been DFA'd if that was the case. And it certainly makes the trading of Pence with Nate involved even less sense. Rosin is doing real well right now it seems, Joseph seems alright, but when you give up a guy that's under club control then you should get a Major Leaguer in return. Which they did. But then Idiot non-tendered him. Doesn't make a lick of sense - especially at $2.5M and the logic being signing Delmon Young for over a mil. So now we're talking about less than $1.5M of payroll. Insanse.

This team won't be bad for long but it's going to be painful when they are.

eeriepadave

:fp: and now our bullpen blows! Hopefully they can get everything meshing real soon before it's too late (if it isn't already)

Empty Glass

Can they top 75 wins? I'm saying no at this point. No bats. No bullpen to keep them in games....

Ledbetterman10

Empty Glass wrote:

Can they top 75 wins? I'm saying no at this point. No bats. No bullpen to keep them in games....

I think it'll be around there. Anything between 68 and 82 seems about right.

Empty Glass

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Empty Glass wrote:

Can they top 75 wins? I'm saying no at this point. No bats. No bullpen to keep them in games....

I think it'll be around there. Anything between 68 and 82 seems about right.

14 game cushion

Sadly, looking like the low end.

jamminpearls

no one, except for most of this thread. JP and cliff were the only ones who agreed with me

Wrong,everyone agreed the contract sucked. You 3 thought Howard and his Hr's and RBI's were overrated. The other 8-12 people disagreed.

JK_Livin

Nothing like 122 pitches in April.

81

don't mess with the Zoltan







and somebody teach Inge the proper technique

The Juggler

so kendrick's our ace?

gotta pick up some wins before heading out west. good start last night.

eeriepadave

The Juggler wrote:

so kendrick's our ace?

gotta pick up some wins before heading out west. good start last night.

looks like it :?

Cliffy6745

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